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Tue 01/01/02 at 19:45
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Diving is happening all the time now and is shocking.

Players do it because they know they will get of with a booking.Should divers be sent off?
Wed 02/01/02 at 23:26
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Fifa are trying to clampdown hard on diving.

We may see a lot of straoght red cards for diving at the world cup.
Wed 02/01/02 at 23:21
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Sheesh, it was just an idea... not an actual proposal to the FA.

30mins IS to long, but that would be a 'Possible Maximum' IF each team had '3' video wildcards.

What IF it was just one then? How would that sound? Then you would only have a 'Maximum' of 10 minutes added to a game IF both sides used it.
Wed 02/01/02 at 13:11
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Actually it's thirty mins, I'm excused because I have just got up :)
Wed 02/01/02 at 13:10
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5 mins max times three wild cards each. That's an extra 25 mins. Seems like a bit much now doesn't it, if we do get a bad decision, yes I will be unhappy but that's football. We don't want it turning into American Football now do we...
Wed 02/01/02 at 01:54
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If your team was on the reciving end of a very poor red card decision, which led to a penalty in the dying minutes of an tight and tied FA Cup final..... Would Wildcards still be a rubbish idea then????????


Can't imagine it would be slowed down 'that' much... perhaps 5 mins max... and some fights and injuries last that long. Besides, how many very bad decisions happen in games anyway?! Its not that often.
Tue 01/01/02 at 22:56
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I think the 'wildcards' idea is a load of rubbish. The whole beauty of the game is that anything can happen, ref's make mistakes, we have just got to live with them. It would slow the game down far too much.
Tue 01/01/02 at 22:52
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I think that giving straight Red Cards to players who dive would solve the problem - its far more likely it would cause more trouble then good.

Yes, diving is bad and its cheating, there's no denying that and a Red card is fully justified. But, if you do impose that Straight Red Card policy for divers - players who do get fouled and fall over honestly and the ref mistake's for a dive would get sent off SPOILING the game! (for one team anyway!)

I think that the FA should keep the current rules - but perhaps impose fine's and/or suspensions after games. So there's no getting away with it!

Also Arsene Wenger suggested the other day for the use of 'Video Wildcards'. For example, two competing teams would have three 'Video Wilcards' each during a course of a game. And if they feel that the referee has made an inncorrect decision - imprortant enough to use a wildcard (i,e off the line clearence, penalty, diving, sending off decision) - another official would view and replay footage of the incident and decide for himself (overriding the ref decision). Much like video referee's in Rugby league and Cricket.

And if you use up your three wildcards during the course of a game... tough luck!

Although it would perhaps slow/break up the flow of the game a bit. But, if in the end you'd get a fair game with little or no dubious referee decisions... I think its worth it.
Tue 01/01/02 at 22:12
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I was shocked the other day when I was watching the Premiership. I saw Pires get brought down in the area and in all fairness, it was a good challenge. Pires knew this and got straight up and ran after the ball, just for the ref to stop play and book him for diving. Surely he should get booked if he launches a protest...
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:51
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Diving should not be dealt with by the referee, unless it is so blatant it's not even funny. There should be a committee set-up which is specifically looking for diving, any instances of it should be met with a two match suspension. If it was to win a penalty or got another player sent off then it should be extended to a 3 or 4 match suspension.
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:27
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Players who dive should automatically be shown the red card!! Its just blatant cheating!!

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