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Tue 01/01/02 at 19:35
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"The Year Nintendo fights back".
I'll stand by that.


Simply put, Nintendo is on to a darn good winner with the Gamecube-gaining support for its console from all quarters of the development community.
Put it this way, Nintendo's bones are made of pure solid Rock, they never give in to any competition that is thrown at them, possibly they have Yamauchi to thank for that, but either way, they are a Gaming force to put the wind up every Console Manufacturer that draws a breath on the market. There's no denying that.

How stubborn Nintendo are was evident with the Nintendo 64.
That Console was competing directly with the new found might that was the Playstation, effectively a new kid on the block. The PS wiped the floor clean- scooping up third party support from all corners of third party development, snatching Nintendo allies left right and centre such as Namco, Squaresoft, Enix and EA. But yet people from all corners of the earth where crying- "Nintendo is doomed" "The Nintendo 64 is on it's last legs" and yet this was 1998- Nintendo effectively gave a two finger salute regardless of the N64 sales and released the greatest game of all time being: 'The Legend of Zelda:Ocarina of Time'.
Even after that groundbreaking release the Nintendo 64 console rate didn't reach peak high enough and still Nintendo carried on regardless, supporting Rare injecting them with cash and so forth.
The Nintendo 64 wasn't a failure, don't get me wrong, it just wasn't the groundbreaker what Nintendo had hoped it to have been.
The Sony Playstation was the most popular amongst developers, from a simple reason only: 'Nintendo did not abandon Cartridges', that Is why Sony are where they are today. Simply put- If Nintendo had of installed a CD Drive within the Nintendo 64, Sony's Playstation would have been dead long ago!. All the developers who jumped ship because of Nintendo's reluctance to go CD was what gave Playstation a start it needed. STRONG allies Square would have been with the big N if the N64 was CD, they said that themselves once back in 1996, Namco too would have stayed put, where then or atleast how would Sony have got a foothold then? It would have been hard, it probably would have been useless attempting!.
So how then will Nintendo dominate this year and claim back the limelight that it once held for a TV Console?
Simple really, it was Nintendo's choice back at the announcement of the Gamecube that it will be using DVD-like discs coupled with ease of development, once the announcement was made the developers jumping back on board started to build up month by month.
Already we have seen Namco's decision with Ridge Racer 6 being confirmed, as with Soul Calibur 2, then we have EA with their many titles, even if they are 'yearly' and 'samey' and we have once 'Playstation only' developers coming in for pickings too such as Naughty Dog and their corporate allies being Universal Studios.
And of course the news was that good at one stage that Squaresoft themselves expressed willingness to join up with the Big N to bring Final Fantasy back home, considering 9 Final Fantasies graced Nintendo consoles in the past.

But then I haven't mentioned once enemies Sega bringing many of their lucrative titles to the format, with Sega development house Sonic Team acknowledging that the Nintendo Gamecube is their system of choice- seeing of course Sonic the Hedgehog speeding around Nintendo confines is quite amazing.
Nintendo as Ive said before are back with a vengeance, Sony and indeed newcomers such as Microsoft 'Will Not' know what hit them, I really mean that and stick by that claim!.
I cant wait to see the reaction of the Sony Big wigs when Nintendo unleash it big time come Summer when already we will have seen Resident Evil 1 + 0 plus Nintendo's own being the Killer app 'Super Mario' and not to mention Rares own titles which I don't need to mention leading up to Christmas 2002 with another being Nintendo's the Legend of Zelda.
Really, believe me when I say it, Nintendo are serious this time. They are a lot stronger than what they where with the N64. They have the means to wipe the floor with the competition regardless of 'leads' and so forth, they have never in the companies history been in a healthier state than 'what it will be'. You'll see.
Tue 01/01/02 at 21:00
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Sméagol wrote:
> Suppose that was the only
> 'bit' of the post you disagreed with? hmmm?

Nah, there's loads more, but I can't be bothered right now. Besides, I'd only be repeating what I've said before.

I will say this though:

A Ridge 6 "exclusive" is not something to shout about. All the Ridge Racers apart from the original Ridge and Rage Racer sucked. It's like saying we have an Army Men exclusive. I'm beginning to believe Namco have lost their gaming touch.
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:53
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hang on you two. No one person can proclaim any game the greatest ever, and no-0ne can argue that, because it is an opinion. Zelda:OOT is definitely a good game. That is not an opinion, that is the general consensus of most video game critics and players. Sure, you can disagree, that is your opinion, but the general opinion is that Zelda:OOT is one of the greatest video games ever.

I agree, Sonic 3 (+ the Sonic and Knuckles 'add-on' cart) is one of the greatest games I have played, and so is Mario World on the Snes, and so id Donkey Kong Country 3 on Snes. But I firmly believe that it is very difficult to choose a favourite out of two games, both of which are great, but are seperate genres. And I believe that 2D and 3D platformers are different genres, so I believe that the 3D platformer Mario 64 which was called the best game in the world by much of the gaming press too, cannot be right. Thise 2D games cannot be bettered by a 3D game becasue as soon as you add the third dimension, it is a seperate genre. Same goes for the Zelda series. Look at the transformation from SNES/gameboy games, and then the N64 sequels. The jump to 3D made the game pretty different in terms of gameplay, even if the plot, characters and items were often familiar.

Anyway, that is my addition to this coversation.
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:52
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There was a lot of stuff to do if you stuck at it.
Suppose that was the only 'bit' of the post you disagreed with? hmmm?
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:43
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Yes, I personally didn't like OOT. Too much walking around and not enough actually doing stuff.
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:36
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I remember you qouting once that you played Ocarina of Time and never got too far, got fed up with the lack of 'Fighting' and abandoned it.
And yes you are Biased, theres nothing wrong with that.
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:30
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Many, many of the games on the MegaDrive and SNES easily beat today's offerings, including Zelda:OOT. I know loads of people who agree with me that Sonic 3 is the best game they've ever played. I expect Grix will have something to say on this subject, probably on the lines of "Go play Skies of Arcadia".

Oh, and before you start, I used to have an N64 and Zelda, so don't say "You've never played it" or "You're biased".
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:23
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I was replying to your post not mine.
And I don't believe 'Zeldo OoT is the best game ever'.
I know it!
And so does the majority of multi format mags in existence.
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:20
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Says you, from what your post said.
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:18
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Says who?
Tue 01/01/02 at 20:16
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Zelda:OOT is far from the best game ever. If you believe that you don't deserve to be posting in this forum.

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