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Quite some time ago I posted a topic about frustration making games actually better in FOG chat but I only skimmed the surface, so this is a re-make of that topic, but, hopefully going into much more detail.
Many games that are made, for all consoles, can be very frustrating and annoying, but can we class this as a bad thing in gaming?
It all depends on 3 things; 1, how fun the game is to play, 2, how hard the game actually is, and 3, if you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. All these three things come with problems though.
If you get a game, which is frustrating, to play it until you complete the game it has to be a fun game to play, this means good playability. You know when a game is fun because you keep playing on it, no matter how frustrating it may be, until you complete it. At some points, if you’ve been playing for a while, you may give up and turn it off, bit in about ½ hour you come back and play it some more. Some classic examples of this is Gran Turismo (1, 2 and 3) for PSOne/PS2 and Goleneye 007 for the Nintendo 64.
Proof of this on the GT series are the Endurance Racers. Quite a few people have done all of the Endurance Racers no matter how frustrating they may be. Endurance Racers ware down your tyres and the steering starts to get dodgy, this can really annoy you, buy even though this has happened you still play because it is so fun.
On Goldeneye 007 there are LOADS of really hard missions that could take you a week to do, but that’s exactly the thing, you will actually play it for weeks until completion. If you are dedicated enough you will open two new levels, which are just as hard, this is one of the most frustrating games I’ve ever played, but then again one of the most fun games I’ve ever played as well.
A big problem with many frustrating games is the difficulty level. Some frustrating games are FAR too frustrating, even if the game is very fun the whole game can be let by this element of frustration. Bomberman Tournament is a very frustrating game. On quest mode there are puzzles that aren’t just hard, they aren’t fun, they’re just plain annoying. The multiplayer in the game is great, so it’s a real shame that it’s let down so much by this.
One key element of frustrating gaming is whether you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. If you’re a Softcore gamer, games with a lot of frustration in them won’t appeal to you. Softcore gamers may up these kind of games, even if they are fun and easy to play, if they are frustrating they will put them down never to be played again.
If you are a Hardcore gamer you can play some really frustrating games like the GT series until you complete then, some racers may be very hard, some levels may be very hard, but being a Hardcore gamer you won’t stop until you complete it.
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Thanks for reading
RiCkOsS
Many games that are made, for all consoles, can be very frustrating and annoying, but can we class this as a bad thing in gaming?
It all depends on 3 things; 1, how fun the game is to play, 2, how hard the game actually is, and 3, if you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. All these three things come with problems though.
If you get a game, which is frustrating, to play it until you complete the game it has to be a fun game to play, this means good playability. You know when a game is fun because you keep playing on it, no matter how frustrating it may be, until you complete it. At some points, if you’ve been playing for a while, you may give up and turn it off, bit in about ½ hour you come back and play it some more. Some classic examples of this is Gran Turismo (1, 2 and 3) for PSOne/PS2 and Goleneye 007 for the Nintendo 64.
Proof of this on the GT series are the Endurance Racers. Quite a few people have done all of the Endurance Racers no matter how frustrating they may be. Endurance Racers ware down your tyres and the steering starts to get dodgy, this can really annoy you, buy even though this has happened you still play because it is so fun.
On Goldeneye 007 there are LOADS of really hard missions that could take you a week to do, but that’s exactly the thing, you will actually play it for weeks until completion. If you are dedicated enough you will open two new levels, which are just as hard, this is one of the most frustrating games I’ve ever played, but then again one of the most fun games I’ve ever played as well.
A big problem with many frustrating games is the difficulty level. Some frustrating games are FAR too frustrating, even if the game is very fun the whole game can be let by this element of frustration. Bomberman Tournament is a very frustrating game. On quest mode there are puzzles that aren’t just hard, they aren’t fun, they’re just plain annoying. The multiplayer in the game is great, so it’s a real shame that it’s let down so much by this.
One key element of frustrating gaming is whether you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. If you’re a Softcore gamer, games with a lot of frustration in them won’t appeal to you. Softcore gamers may up these kind of games, even if they are fun and easy to play, if they are frustrating they will put them down never to be played again.
If you are a Hardcore gamer you can play some really frustrating games like the GT series until you complete then, some racers may be very hard, some levels may be very hard, but being a Hardcore gamer you won’t stop until you complete it.
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Thanks for reading
RiCkOsS
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One thing I really hate in games are underwater levels. Mainly in platformers, I just find that controlling your character through the water is just boring and no fun at all. Its usually very slow, and finding things is sometimes a bore. This pritty much applies to all underwater levels to me, right through from Mario to Rare's platformers (hell even Conker had a small underwater part!)
Anyway, i just hate underwater levels...
Anyway, i just hate underwater levels...
I think that the fustrating levels should be there, so long as they're on the harder difficulty setting and there's a fair learning curve that leads up to it.
If you're a softcore gamer, you don't HAVE to complete it and if you're a hardcore gamer then you want a challenge and you money's worth from the game.
That's why I think that many of Nintendo's excuses for smaller games are a load of bull.
If you're a softcore gamer, you don't HAVE to complete it and if you're a hardcore gamer then you want a challenge and you money's worth from the game.
That's why I think that many of Nintendo's excuses for smaller games are a load of bull.
AfroJoe wrote:
> Good post Rickoss! Another good post by you. Now I'm off to read it to find out
> what it's about. :D
Lol AJ! :-D
> Good post Rickoss! Another good post by you. Now I'm off to read it to find out
> what it's about. :D
Lol AJ! :-D
Good post Rickoss! Another good post by you. Now I'm off to read it to find out what it's about. :D
Quite some time ago I posted a topic about frustration making games actually better in FOG chat but I only skimmed the surface, so this is a re-make of that topic, but, hopefully going into much more detail.
Many games that are made, for all consoles, can be very frustrating and annoying, but can we class this as a bad thing in gaming?
It all depends on 3 things; 1, how fun the game is to play, 2, how hard the game actually is, and 3, if you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. All these three things come with problems though.
If you get a game, which is frustrating, to play it until you complete the game it has to be a fun game to play, this means good playability. You know when a game is fun because you keep playing on it, no matter how frustrating it may be, until you complete it. At some points, if you’ve been playing for a while, you may give up and turn it off, bit in about ½ hour you come back and play it some more. Some classic examples of this is Gran Turismo (1, 2 and 3) for PSOne/PS2 and Goleneye 007 for the Nintendo 64.
Proof of this on the GT series are the Endurance Racers. Quite a few people have done all of the Endurance Racers no matter how frustrating they may be. Endurance Racers ware down your tyres and the steering starts to get dodgy, this can really annoy you, buy even though this has happened you still play because it is so fun.
On Goldeneye 007 there are LOADS of really hard missions that could take you a week to do, but that’s exactly the thing, you will actually play it for weeks until completion. If you are dedicated enough you will open two new levels, which are just as hard, this is one of the most frustrating games I’ve ever played, but then again one of the most fun games I’ve ever played as well.
A big problem with many frustrating games is the difficulty level. Some frustrating games are FAR too frustrating, even if the game is very fun the whole game can be let by this element of frustration. Bomberman Tournament is a very frustrating game. On quest mode there are puzzles that aren’t just hard, they aren’t fun, they’re just plain annoying. The multiplayer in the game is great, so it’s a real shame that it’s let down so much by this.
One key element of frustrating gaming is whether you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. If you’re a Softcore gamer, games with a lot of frustration in them won’t appeal to you. Softcore gamers may up these kind of games, even if they are fun and easy to play, if they are frustrating they will put them down never to be played again.
If you are a Hardcore gamer you can play some really frustrating games like the GT series until you complete then, some racers may be very hard, some levels may be very hard, but being a Hardcore gamer you won’t stop until you complete it.
** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **
Thanks for reading
RiCkOsS
Many games that are made, for all consoles, can be very frustrating and annoying, but can we class this as a bad thing in gaming?
It all depends on 3 things; 1, how fun the game is to play, 2, how hard the game actually is, and 3, if you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. All these three things come with problems though.
If you get a game, which is frustrating, to play it until you complete the game it has to be a fun game to play, this means good playability. You know when a game is fun because you keep playing on it, no matter how frustrating it may be, until you complete it. At some points, if you’ve been playing for a while, you may give up and turn it off, bit in about ½ hour you come back and play it some more. Some classic examples of this is Gran Turismo (1, 2 and 3) for PSOne/PS2 and Goleneye 007 for the Nintendo 64.
Proof of this on the GT series are the Endurance Racers. Quite a few people have done all of the Endurance Racers no matter how frustrating they may be. Endurance Racers ware down your tyres and the steering starts to get dodgy, this can really annoy you, buy even though this has happened you still play because it is so fun.
On Goldeneye 007 there are LOADS of really hard missions that could take you a week to do, but that’s exactly the thing, you will actually play it for weeks until completion. If you are dedicated enough you will open two new levels, which are just as hard, this is one of the most frustrating games I’ve ever played, but then again one of the most fun games I’ve ever played as well.
A big problem with many frustrating games is the difficulty level. Some frustrating games are FAR too frustrating, even if the game is very fun the whole game can be let by this element of frustration. Bomberman Tournament is a very frustrating game. On quest mode there are puzzles that aren’t just hard, they aren’t fun, they’re just plain annoying. The multiplayer in the game is great, so it’s a real shame that it’s let down so much by this.
One key element of frustrating gaming is whether you’re a Hardcore/Softcore gamer. If you’re a Softcore gamer, games with a lot of frustration in them won’t appeal to you. Softcore gamers may up these kind of games, even if they are fun and easy to play, if they are frustrating they will put them down never to be played again.
If you are a Hardcore gamer you can play some really frustrating games like the GT series until you complete then, some racers may be very hard, some levels may be very hard, but being a Hardcore gamer you won’t stop until you complete it.
** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **
Thanks for reading
RiCkOsS
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