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Ok I get into these "discussions" with my dad about games and according to him this is why the GC is going to go down:
No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which makes tham more useful"
No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the Ps2 is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have - "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have tonnes more games than GC"
Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads Because it was out first"
Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I like them"
No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which makes tham more useful"
No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the Ps2 is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have - "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have tonnes more games than GC"
Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads Because it was out first"
Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I like them"
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Do I have to point out that most of the people who go on about how adult the PS2's games are are about 12. Seriously, look at the spelling and grammar in the PS2 forum, they're either pre-teens, or they're just really stupid, either way, it proves a point.
Are you trying to start console wars?
Berserko wrote:
> plasticcoated wrote:
> Ok I get into these "discussions" with my dad about games
> and according to him this is why the GC is going to go down:
>
> *takes Gamecube downstairs to play on it*
> yep it when down
>
> No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its
> just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which
> makes
> tham more useful"
>
> just about everyone and their wife as a DVD player these days
>
> No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the
> Ps2
> is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
>
> I hate the graphics of the PS1 now
>
> Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute
> and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
>
> well it's just as well they have good old Capcom then don't it
>
> Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have
> -
> "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
>
> the Gamecube makes the most profit and with the Gameboy advanced
> selling well Nintendo look good
>
> Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have
> tonnes more games than GC"
>
> most PS2 games are rubbish, quality over quantity
>
> Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads
> Because it was out first"
>
> the Ps2 was going to sell well anyway
>
> Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that
> Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements
> with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I
> like
1/ as the longest running console maker Nintendo are obviously rich
2/Dosn't lil' old Q play DVDs
3/At the current rate GC will have more games than Xbox within months
> plasticcoated wrote:
> Ok I get into these "discussions" with my dad about games
> and according to him this is why the GC is going to go down:
>
> *takes Gamecube downstairs to play on it*
> yep it when down
>
> No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its
> just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which
> makes
> tham more useful"
>
> just about everyone and their wife as a DVD player these days
>
> No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the
> Ps2
> is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
>
> I hate the graphics of the PS1 now
>
> Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute
> and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
>
> well it's just as well they have good old Capcom then don't it
>
> Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have
> -
> "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
>
> the Gamecube makes the most profit and with the Gameboy advanced
> selling well Nintendo look good
>
> Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have
> tonnes more games than GC"
>
> most PS2 games are rubbish, quality over quantity
>
> Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads
> Because it was out first"
>
> the Ps2 was going to sell well anyway
>
> Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that
> Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements
> with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I
> like
1/ as the longest running console maker Nintendo are obviously rich
2/Dosn't lil' old Q play DVDs
3/At the current rate GC will have more games than Xbox within months
plasticcoated wrote:
> Ok I get into these "discussions" with my dad about games
> and according to him this is why the GC is going to go down:
*takes Gamecube downstairs to play on it*
yep it when down
> No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its
> just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which makes
> tham more useful"
just about everyone and their wife as a DVD player these days
> No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the Ps2
> is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
I hate the graphics of the PS1 now
> Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute
> and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
well it's just as well they have good old Capcom then don't it
> Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have -
> "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
the Gamecube makes the most profit and with the Gameboy advanced selling well Nintendo look good
> Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have
> tonnes more games than GC"
most PS2 games are rubbish, quality over quantity
> Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads
> Because it was out first"
the Ps2 was going to sell well anyway
> Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that
> Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements
> with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I like
> them"
thats erm great
> Ok I get into these "discussions" with my dad about games
> and according to him this is why the GC is going to go down:
*takes Gamecube downstairs to play on it*
yep it when down
> No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its
> just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which makes
> tham more useful"
just about everyone and their wife as a DVD player these days
> No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the Ps2
> is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
I hate the graphics of the PS1 now
> Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute
> and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
well it's just as well they have good old Capcom then don't it
> Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have -
> "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
the Gamecube makes the most profit and with the Gameboy advanced selling well Nintendo look good
> Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have
> tonnes more games than GC"
most PS2 games are rubbish, quality over quantity
> Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads
> Because it was out first"
the Ps2 was going to sell well anyway
> Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that
> Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements
> with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I like
> them"
thats erm great
Insane Bartender wrote:
I pretty much said the same things to him in the discussion but he twists my words during these things - last night we had an argument over what to get - NetMD or an MP3 player such as iPOD, during which it was argured about the space on a minidisc a song copied from PC would take up - my answer "I have no idea, how do you expect me to know, i dont own a NetMD." to my dad this Was "sod off Im not interested!"
which usually means I have to resort to something.
So I resorted to the childish "nintendo are good..." remark.
I pretty much said the same things to him in the discussion but he twists my words during these things - last night we had an argument over what to get - NetMD or an MP3 player such as iPOD, during which it was argured about the space on a minidisc a song copied from PC would take up - my answer "I have no idea, how do you expect me to know, i dont own a NetMD." to my dad this Was "sod off Im not interested!"
which usually means I have to resort to something.
So I resorted to the childish "nintendo are good..." remark.
plasticcoated wrote:
> No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its
> just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which makes
> tham more useful"
I already have 2 DVD players, why would I pay extra to own a third?
> No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the Ps2
> is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
This is a fair point, but backwards compatibility would have meant staying with cartridge technology, which would have been a bad move. But consider this, the GC is compatible with the GBA and GBA SP, which are also compatible with every previous iteration of the GB. Therefore, it already has a library of thousands of games.
> Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute
> and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
Yes, I'll agree that Eternal Darkness is cute and lovey, and doesn't appeal to older gamers. What you have said is a sweeping and generalised statement that is untrue. "Mature gamers" like the ones that trawl the PS2 forum screaming "GTA is da best gaem eva wot u fink" threads discount the GC because it's fashionable to do so, not because they're particularly well informed on Nintendo's game producing prowess.
> Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have -
> "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
Nintendo have considerable financial clout actually, and have a little over a third of the liquid assets that Microsoft do them selves. Nintendo can fund the GC all the way through to 2005 without coming across too much trouble.
> Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have
> tonnes more games than GC"
Lies. The PS2 obviously has more games available, having been out for a whole year longer, but the XBOX has comparitively few more games, despite having been out for several months more than the GC. All three consoles have literally hundreds of games available, and given the number of "chaff" games which appear on the PS2 merely because it is the most popular of the three, many of them can be discounted offhand because they are absolute crap.
> Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads
> Because it was out first"
Would you rather that the GC was released before the technology was properly developed and any games had been produced?
> Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that
> Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements
> with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I like
> them"
I can dispute those points easilly.
> No DVD/CD playback - "I dont care what Nintendo said about 'its
> just a games machine', Ps2 and Xbox are dvd players aswell which makes
> tham more useful"
I already have 2 DVD players, why would I pay extra to own a third?
> No backwards compatability with older Nintendo games - " the Ps2
> is a good console because it is has the PSone Back catalogue"
This is a fair point, but backwards compatibility would have meant staying with cartridge technology, which would have been a bad move. But consider this, the GC is compatible with the GBA and GBA SP, which are also compatible with every previous iteration of the GB. Therefore, it already has a library of thousands of games.
> Cutesy/Folksy games - "Nitendo always make games that are cute
> and kiddie like, so it doesnt appeal to a mature audience"
Yes, I'll agree that Eternal Darkness is cute and lovey, and doesn't appeal to older gamers. What you have said is a sweeping and generalised statement that is untrue. "Mature gamers" like the ones that trawl the PS2 forum screaming "GTA is da best gaem eva wot u fink" threads discount the GC because it's fashionable to do so, not because they're particularly well informed on Nintendo's game producing prowess.
> Nintendo dont have the financial clout that Sony and Microsoft have -
> "up against them Nintendo cant fund the GC for long"
Nintendo have considerable financial clout actually, and have a little over a third of the liquid assets that Microsoft do them selves. Nintendo can fund the GC all the way through to 2005 without coming across too much trouble.
> Theres not enough games available - " the PS2 and Xbox have
> tonnes more games than GC"
Lies. The PS2 obviously has more games available, having been out for a whole year longer, but the XBOX has comparitively few more games, despite having been out for several months more than the GC. All three consoles have literally hundreds of games available, and given the number of "chaff" games which appear on the PS2 merely because it is the most popular of the three, many of them can be discounted offhand because they are absolute crap.
> Released to late after rivals - " the Ps2 is selling loads
> Because it was out first"
Would you rather that the GC was released before the technology was properly developed and any games had been produced?
> Some of his points are valid, but it reveals to me the sad fact that
> Im am a NInty fanboy at heart as I dispute all the above statements
> with " yaeh, well Nintendo are, erm, really, erm ,good and I like
> them"
I can dispute those points easilly.
You know the invincibility cheat in Goldeneye? The one where you have to do the facility in under 3.20 minutes? (or around that time)
I spent about two hours just sitting there on my own to try and do it. I was insane.
I spent about two hours just sitting there on my own to try and do it. I was insane.
im not even gonna commment in this stupid, tired, rehashed topic.
:)
:)
Unbeliever wrote:
> I went through a stage in my life where in played Goldeneye
> CONSTANTLY. I was debating jamming it into the socket because I was so
> addicted to it.
I was like that with Ocarina of time.
> I went through a stage in my life where in played Goldeneye
> CONSTANTLY. I was debating jamming it into the socket because I was so
> addicted to it.
I was like that with Ocarina of time.
I went through a stage in my life where in played Goldeneye CONSTANTLY. I was debating jamming it into the socket because I was so addicted to it.
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