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Bought my PS2 in January, with no doubts. I knew there would be class games, and would give me much more joy than any other console could offer. Now here's the thing...there STILL IS no console that can offer anything more.
Some might say the Dreamcast, which is undoubtedly a superb piece of kit. But I would say it's near-death now, and doesn't really count as a 'competitor,' if you will. Now lets see...the PS2 came out, November last year was it? November 2000. It is now December 2001, over a year later, and still the PS2 is the only next-gen console out there. Microsoft have a confirmed date for the X-Box, which I believe is somewhere in March. Another 4 or so months away. That's a year and a half afte the PS2 was launched.
The GameCube? Well, Mario and all his annoying little friends may not be appearing over here until the Autumn! That's almost 2 years after the PS2!
Now maybe the other consoles can offer more graphically (not sure though, not a 'specs' person if you know what I mean,) and even if they did, it wouldn't be much. Maybe the GameCube offers the best platformers, and is the only console where you will find Mario. I'm sure die-hard Nintendo fans have either imported or are still waiting, but think of the others...
What of the fan who wasn't sure of which console to buy? Is this person willing to wait over a year? No! He's going to go out and buy a PlayStation 2, RIGHT NOW, already with many AAA titles to come, and more to be released over the Christmas period, and into the new year. What of the N64 owner, who liked his console, but is really willing to buy anything? It's a PS2 for him, most certainly!
And look...the father of the PS2, the PlayStation, is still bringing out quality games such as Syphon Filter 3! While the N64 is releasing on average a third of a game every month! WWF No Mercy is still in the top 10 for N64!
If we fast forward to the release of the GameCube. We will have a small games console, with around 5 decent games on offer, for £199.99. On the other hand, there's the PS2, already with over 30 AAA titles, lots of other great games AND it comes with a DVD Player, also for £199.99. Now, surely the right choice is obvious for the casual gamer, or even the gamer who was looking forward to the GameCube, but realised the PS2 would offer more!
I mean, already the PS2 has sold bucket-loads over here, and I know from personal experience that former 'Nintys' are sick of waiting, and have opted for the PS2 (a mate of mine has done exactly this.) I really believe that the GameCube will be a failure-maybe not in Japan or the USA, but over here it is possible, There's no doubt it will offer some amazing stuff, but can keep people (who already own a PS2) afford to shell out another £300 for a GC with a couple of games? Supposedly, GC games will cost around £50-most new PS2 games are at least a tenner cheaper than that on the Internet.
So, while all of us lucky PS2ers are busily playing on THPS3, Devil May Cry, GTA3, 007, SSX Tricky, Airblade, Max Payne, Jak and Daxter, Half-Life and soon to come the one and only Metal Gear Solid 3, N64 owners will still be playing the 'latest release' Mario Pary 3! I believe Nintendo have done their reputation no good by treating us as though we don't matter, and I can see many people becoming sick of it, and buying a PS2 just so they can get back to what they enjoy doing, playing games. And that is something, that over here in the UK, Nintendo are failing to offer at the moment. Sony however, with their PlayStation 2, are, and with great success.
Thanks for reading, Ant (who is enjoying his monthly visit to the PS2 Forum.)
Some might say the Dreamcast, which is undoubtedly a superb piece of kit. But I would say it's near-death now, and doesn't really count as a 'competitor,' if you will. Now lets see...the PS2 came out, November last year was it? November 2000. It is now December 2001, over a year later, and still the PS2 is the only next-gen console out there. Microsoft have a confirmed date for the X-Box, which I believe is somewhere in March. Another 4 or so months away. That's a year and a half afte the PS2 was launched.
The GameCube? Well, Mario and all his annoying little friends may not be appearing over here until the Autumn! That's almost 2 years after the PS2!
Now maybe the other consoles can offer more graphically (not sure though, not a 'specs' person if you know what I mean,) and even if they did, it wouldn't be much. Maybe the GameCube offers the best platformers, and is the only console where you will find Mario. I'm sure die-hard Nintendo fans have either imported or are still waiting, but think of the others...
What of the fan who wasn't sure of which console to buy? Is this person willing to wait over a year? No! He's going to go out and buy a PlayStation 2, RIGHT NOW, already with many AAA titles to come, and more to be released over the Christmas period, and into the new year. What of the N64 owner, who liked his console, but is really willing to buy anything? It's a PS2 for him, most certainly!
And look...the father of the PS2, the PlayStation, is still bringing out quality games such as Syphon Filter 3! While the N64 is releasing on average a third of a game every month! WWF No Mercy is still in the top 10 for N64!
If we fast forward to the release of the GameCube. We will have a small games console, with around 5 decent games on offer, for £199.99. On the other hand, there's the PS2, already with over 30 AAA titles, lots of other great games AND it comes with a DVD Player, also for £199.99. Now, surely the right choice is obvious for the casual gamer, or even the gamer who was looking forward to the GameCube, but realised the PS2 would offer more!
I mean, already the PS2 has sold bucket-loads over here, and I know from personal experience that former 'Nintys' are sick of waiting, and have opted for the PS2 (a mate of mine has done exactly this.) I really believe that the GameCube will be a failure-maybe not in Japan or the USA, but over here it is possible, There's no doubt it will offer some amazing stuff, but can keep people (who already own a PS2) afford to shell out another £300 for a GC with a couple of games? Supposedly, GC games will cost around £50-most new PS2 games are at least a tenner cheaper than that on the Internet.
So, while all of us lucky PS2ers are busily playing on THPS3, Devil May Cry, GTA3, 007, SSX Tricky, Airblade, Max Payne, Jak and Daxter, Half-Life and soon to come the one and only Metal Gear Solid 3, N64 owners will still be playing the 'latest release' Mario Pary 3! I believe Nintendo have done their reputation no good by treating us as though we don't matter, and I can see many people becoming sick of it, and buying a PS2 just so they can get back to what they enjoy doing, playing games. And that is something, that over here in the UK, Nintendo are failing to offer at the moment. Sony however, with their PlayStation 2, are, and with great success.
Thanks for reading, Ant (who is enjoying his monthly visit to the PS2 Forum.)
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PS2 , X-Box and GC games in America are all $49.99. Rogue Squadron on GC is $47.99 while MGS2 on PS2 is $49.99. All these prices I found at Yahoo shopping.
So GC games should be the same price over here, as PS2 games and X-Box games.
So GC games should be the same price over here, as PS2 games and X-Box games.
I saw import prices for X-Box games and GC games. Both were the American copies and the X-Box cost £55 and GC cost £65. So if the American prices were the same why would they sell them for more. Iam going to have a look around on the net at proper US prices to see if they are the same price.
Is MrMatrix`s reply not the exact words of Ant with a small line at the bottom? Or did I miss something?
Or†ega wrote:
> Ant wrote:
GC games will cost around
> £50-most new PS2 games are at
> least a tenner cheaper than that on the
> Internet.
Now really, thats a
> pritty mis-leading thing to say. Gamecube games will also be a tenner cheaper
> on the Internet. In the US, Gamecube games and PS2 games are both priced at
> $49.99. I'm sure Nintendo will follow suit in the UK as well. Just remember
> that new PS2 games such as DMC are £45 in the shops.
There shoudnt be
> any sort of price difference between Gamecube and PS2 games.
Maybe, but when you look at the N64 then you never know.
It's just I heard somewhere they would be £50, and with the N64 most games were £50 on the Internet as well.
> Ant wrote:
GC games will cost around
> £50-most new PS2 games are at
> least a tenner cheaper than that on the
> Internet.
Now really, thats a
> pritty mis-leading thing to say. Gamecube games will also be a tenner cheaper
> on the Internet. In the US, Gamecube games and PS2 games are both priced at
> $49.99. I'm sure Nintendo will follow suit in the UK as well. Just remember
> that new PS2 games such as DMC are £45 in the shops.
There shoudnt be
> any sort of price difference between Gamecube and PS2 games.
Maybe, but when you look at the N64 then you never know.
It's just I heard somewhere they would be £50, and with the N64 most games were £50 on the Internet as well.
>Why The PS2 Has An Obvious Advantage
Original Message posted by Ant Yesterday at 10.29PM There are 6 replies.
Bought my PS2 in January, with no doubts. I knew there would be class games, and would give me much more joy than any other console could offer. Now here's the thing...there STILL IS no console that can offer anything more.
Some might say the Dreamcast, which is undoubtedly a superb piece of kit. But I would say it's near-death now, and doesn't really count as a 'competitor,' if you will. Now lets see...the PS2 came out, November last year was it? November 2000. It is now December 2001, over a year later, and still the PS2 is the only next-gen console out there. Microsoft have a confirmed date for the X-Box, which I believe is somewhere in March. Another 4 or so months away. That's a year and a half afte the PS2 was launched.
The GameCube? Well, Mario and all his annoying little friends may not be appearing over here until the Autumn! That's almost 2 years after the PS2!
Now maybe the other consoles can offer more graphically (not sure though, not a 'specs' person if you know what I mean,) and even if they did, it wouldn't be much. Maybe the GameCube offers the best platformers, and is the only console where you will find Mario. I'm sure die-hard Nintendo fans have either imported or are still waiting, but think of the others...
What of the fan who wasn't sure of which console to buy? Is this person willing to wait over a year? No! He's going to go out and buy a PlayStation 2, RIGHT NOW, already with many AAA titles to come, and more to be released over the Christmas period, and into the new year. What of the N64 owner, who liked his console, but is really willing to buy anything? It's a PS2 for him, most certainly!
And look...the father of the PS2, the PlayStation, is still bringing out quality games such as Syphon Filter 3! While the N64 is releasing on average a third of a game every month! WWF No Mercy is still in the top 10 for N64!
If we fast forward to the release of the GameCube. We will have a small games console, with around 5 decent games on offer, for £199.99. On the other hand, there's the PS2, already with over 30 AAA titles, lots of other great games AND it comes with a DVD Player, also for £199.99. Now, surely the right choice is obvious for the casual gamer, or even the gamer who was looking forward to the GameCube, but realised the PS2 would offer more!
>I mean, already the PS2 has sold bucket-loads over here, and I know from personal experience that former 'Nintys' are sick of waiting, and have opted for the PS2 (a mate of mine has done exactly this.) I really believe that the GameCube will be a failure-maybe not in Japan or the USA, but over here it is possible, There's no doubt it will offer some amazing stuff, but can keep people (who already own a PS2) afford to shell out another £300 for a GC with a couple of games? Supposedly, GC games will cost around £50-most new PS2 games are at least a tenner cheaper than that on the Internet.
>So, while all of us lucky PS2ers are busily playing on THPS3, Devil May Cry, GTA3, 007, SSX Tricky, Airblade, Max Payne, Jak and Daxter, Half-Life and soon to come the one and only Metal Gear Solid 3, N64 owners will still be playing the 'latest release' Mario Pary 3! I believe Nintendo have done their reputation no good by treating us as though we don't matter, and I can see many people becoming sick of it, and buying a PS2 just so they can get back to what they enjoy doing, playing games. And that is something, that over here in the UK, Nintendo are failing to offer at the moment. Sony however, with their PlayStation 2, are, and with great success.
>Thanks for reading, Ant (who is enjoying his monthly visit to the PS2 Forum.)
---------> Spot on mate i couldnt have said it better meself :)
MM
Original Message posted by Ant Yesterday at 10.29PM There are 6 replies.
Bought my PS2 in January, with no doubts. I knew there would be class games, and would give me much more joy than any other console could offer. Now here's the thing...there STILL IS no console that can offer anything more.
Some might say the Dreamcast, which is undoubtedly a superb piece of kit. But I would say it's near-death now, and doesn't really count as a 'competitor,' if you will. Now lets see...the PS2 came out, November last year was it? November 2000. It is now December 2001, over a year later, and still the PS2 is the only next-gen console out there. Microsoft have a confirmed date for the X-Box, which I believe is somewhere in March. Another 4 or so months away. That's a year and a half afte the PS2 was launched.
The GameCube? Well, Mario and all his annoying little friends may not be appearing over here until the Autumn! That's almost 2 years after the PS2!
Now maybe the other consoles can offer more graphically (not sure though, not a 'specs' person if you know what I mean,) and even if they did, it wouldn't be much. Maybe the GameCube offers the best platformers, and is the only console where you will find Mario. I'm sure die-hard Nintendo fans have either imported or are still waiting, but think of the others...
What of the fan who wasn't sure of which console to buy? Is this person willing to wait over a year? No! He's going to go out and buy a PlayStation 2, RIGHT NOW, already with many AAA titles to come, and more to be released over the Christmas period, and into the new year. What of the N64 owner, who liked his console, but is really willing to buy anything? It's a PS2 for him, most certainly!
And look...the father of the PS2, the PlayStation, is still bringing out quality games such as Syphon Filter 3! While the N64 is releasing on average a third of a game every month! WWF No Mercy is still in the top 10 for N64!
If we fast forward to the release of the GameCube. We will have a small games console, with around 5 decent games on offer, for £199.99. On the other hand, there's the PS2, already with over 30 AAA titles, lots of other great games AND it comes with a DVD Player, also for £199.99. Now, surely the right choice is obvious for the casual gamer, or even the gamer who was looking forward to the GameCube, but realised the PS2 would offer more!
>I mean, already the PS2 has sold bucket-loads over here, and I know from personal experience that former 'Nintys' are sick of waiting, and have opted for the PS2 (a mate of mine has done exactly this.) I really believe that the GameCube will be a failure-maybe not in Japan or the USA, but over here it is possible, There's no doubt it will offer some amazing stuff, but can keep people (who already own a PS2) afford to shell out another £300 for a GC with a couple of games? Supposedly, GC games will cost around £50-most new PS2 games are at least a tenner cheaper than that on the Internet.
>So, while all of us lucky PS2ers are busily playing on THPS3, Devil May Cry, GTA3, 007, SSX Tricky, Airblade, Max Payne, Jak and Daxter, Half-Life and soon to come the one and only Metal Gear Solid 3, N64 owners will still be playing the 'latest release' Mario Pary 3! I believe Nintendo have done their reputation no good by treating us as though we don't matter, and I can see many people becoming sick of it, and buying a PS2 just so they can get back to what they enjoy doing, playing games. And that is something, that over here in the UK, Nintendo are failing to offer at the moment. Sony however, with their PlayStation 2, are, and with great success.
>Thanks for reading, Ant (who is enjoying his monthly visit to the PS2 Forum.)
---------> Spot on mate i couldnt have said it better meself :)
MM
Its possible to get brand new release titles for £29.99 including free recorded delivery if you know where to look :)
Ant wrote:
GC games will cost around
> £50-most new PS2 games are at least a tenner cheaper than that on the
> Internet.
Now really, thats a pritty mis-leading thing to say. Gamecube games will also be a tenner cheaper on the Internet. In the US, Gamecube games and PS2 games are both priced at $49.99. I'm sure Nintendo will follow suit in the UK as well. Just remember that new PS2 games such as DMC are £45 in the shops.
There shoudnt be any sort of price difference between Gamecube and PS2 games.
GC games will cost around
> £50-most new PS2 games are at least a tenner cheaper than that on the
> Internet.
Now really, thats a pritty mis-leading thing to say. Gamecube games will also be a tenner cheaper on the Internet. In the US, Gamecube games and PS2 games are both priced at $49.99. I'm sure Nintendo will follow suit in the UK as well. Just remember that new PS2 games such as DMC are £45 in the shops.
There shoudnt be any sort of price difference between Gamecube and PS2 games.
I'm one of thost mentioned people. I didn't intend to buy a PS2 and wanted to play all new consoles before deciding on what to get. However, I couldn't wait a year and a half / two years, and convinced myself it was a good idea to go buy a PS2. After all, I already had a ton of games and controllers to use with it.
No regrets whatsoever.
Truly superb.
I agree that Microsoft/Nintendo needed to get their consoles out a lot quicker to stop Sony getting a good grip on the market and having a massive advantage when they finally did release their machines.
I don't wish to be pessimistic, but I have a strange feeling Xbox may end up being another Dreamcast. Good on paper, just not able to survive the stiff competition. After all, there are already an awful lot of people who think little of Mircosoft, and those who have opted for a PS2 are hardly likely to go and spend £300 on an Xbox.
Deja vu me thinks.
No regrets whatsoever.
Truly superb.
I agree that Microsoft/Nintendo needed to get their consoles out a lot quicker to stop Sony getting a good grip on the market and having a massive advantage when they finally did release their machines.
I don't wish to be pessimistic, but I have a strange feeling Xbox may end up being another Dreamcast. Good on paper, just not able to survive the stiff competition. After all, there are already an awful lot of people who think little of Mircosoft, and those who have opted for a PS2 are hardly likely to go and spend £300 on an Xbox.
Deja vu me thinks.
I agree with almost everything you have said there, good post, the ps2 has now a firm grip of the war in my opinion, people will think some os us are biased but for me its not the case, the ps2 has a wealth of games as Ant kindly mentioned that people of all ages will enjoy, its a great piece of kit for the price, with the dvd and psone compatability, worth every penny!
As for the gamecube i think in europe it could be too little too late, many people will have seen the ps2 price drop and decided to opt for the ps2 instead of the long wait for the gamecube, i am not at all going to bash any other console because personally i may buy a gamecube int he near future because i like some of the multiplayer games that nintendo manage to realse and rogue squadron 2 looks great!
As for the xbox, i am a bit unsure, there may be more units flying around but maybe that proves that the shortage of the gamecube means more people want it?, unless the xbox has some games that really make my jaw drop (apart from Halo) then i cannot see myself buying one because in many ways its like the PS2 in terms of the internet and games.
So for now i am going to stick with my PS2 and enjoy the games that are coming and that are out, and i never know what the future may hold :-)
As for the gamecube i think in europe it could be too little too late, many people will have seen the ps2 price drop and decided to opt for the ps2 instead of the long wait for the gamecube, i am not at all going to bash any other console because personally i may buy a gamecube int he near future because i like some of the multiplayer games that nintendo manage to realse and rogue squadron 2 looks great!
As for the xbox, i am a bit unsure, there may be more units flying around but maybe that proves that the shortage of the gamecube means more people want it?, unless the xbox has some games that really make my jaw drop (apart from Halo) then i cannot see myself buying one because in many ways its like the PS2 in terms of the internet and games.
So for now i am going to stick with my PS2 and enjoy the games that are coming and that are out, and i never know what the future may hold :-)
Why did I write MGS3??
I meant MGS2!!
MGS2!!
I meant MGS2!!
MGS2!!
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