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Mon 10/12/01 at 19:21
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Sex. There, I’ve said it. Now this subject is not meant to shock or disturb you, it’s not meant for titillation either (that means you at the back..) I appeal to the moderators of this forum to look through this post and read it properly. If it is considered not worthy material for the forum, then by all means remove it.

I wanted to discuss something that most of us have or will experience in our lives and how different people see it. The main problem with a topic like this is the way it’s written and I have to be careful not to be too graphic for risk of getting this post deleted. Still, I believe that sex should be talked about openly and discussed maturely, even with a young audience.

The thing with sex is that you can treat it in different ways. For years even saying the word outside your own home was taboo. It’s hard to imagine that once upon a time television stations were not allowed to show or talk about sex in any form, nowadays they practically live off of the ratings from showing it at every opportunity. Is this good for society? Well, it depends. If everyone is more open about sex then it can only be a good thing. I’m not talking about a voyeuristic or promiscuous society, but an open and honest one. The problem is that television is not only providing ‘help’ for people who want to know more about sex but it’s also undermining the ideals behind it.

The television audience these days bare witness to some incredible pieces of cinema sex. Sex scenes in nearly every film are played out to the max and often contain some inexplicable occurrences. Men and women are constantly wrapped around each other in a matter of seconds with no awkward fumbling or underwear pulling and tripping over. Their antics always please the other partner immensely and they always end up in total harmony with each other, amazing. Now real life can occasionally give you a nice surprise, but nature wasn’t designed to make things easy and more often than not one person is going to find that before, after or during their experience there is going to be a problem. That’s where the ‘other’ sort of programme comes in. Problem shows and incompatibility based programmes from fact to fiction are getting more and more popular. Women and men are different, and some people of the same sex are different to each other in many ways, so it’s going to be obvious that one person’s notes aren’t going to be a lot of help to someone else, no matter how much advice you can give in the pub to your mates. Programmes like this have to be broad and as such they’re not always much help to anyone learning about an important subject, but a lot of people won’t find help or advice in the right places because they still consider sex as an embarrassing and personal problem.

Now it seems an in-built feature to the teenage psyche that when talking about sex they will get sniggery about the whole subject. That’s fine as long as they are aware of the implications of such a responsible act. Yes, the whole thing from singular to plural can be a pleasure, but there are many factors to consider and there are plenty of young and older people around who are either just not aware of these or ignore them in favour of the pleasure side of things. The thing we all need to do is be aware of the serious side of things and also about the feelings of the partner you are sharing the experience with. There are books out there that could change your life and your feelings about sex and improve any technique to an amazing extent, but there are also plenty of charlatans who have as much useful advice as your friends down the local or in school. Most importantly, when you know more about a subject you find that your enjoyment is heightened.

Now, anyone else want to chip in before this subject gets deleted?
Fri 14/12/01 at 22:59
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Bob wrote:
> The thing is this taboo was
> mainly created by religion. They made it a sin and so after thousands of years
> of us being told we will go to a very hot place if we think about sex it will
> take us a while to be able to speak completly freely. It is remarkable how far
> we have come in such a short amount of time.

The reason that it is down to religion is that the Jewish and other religious leaders of the time were usually either the equivelent of today's polititians or prime ministers in their day. They agreed at some point that the population explosion seemed to be out of control, so they thought of a way to stop people having too many babies.

Now in a time before contreception, the only way to do this was to scare people off of too much sex and so the modern idea marriage was created. Some kind of marriage process had been around already, but this change meant that it was considered wrong to have children outside of wedlock. Think back to the bible and you will see that Jesus himself was allegedly born out of wedlock, meaning that there was an undermining of old customs even within the beginnings of Christianity.

This worked well for many years until the 1950's when teenagers found that sex was a great way to rebel against the system.

Unfortunately, the ideas put in place by the leaders of the past meant that they were not being told about the newly available forms of protection against pregnancy and therefore quite a few teenagers got pregnant. The system took a very long time to change as western society had to adjust to sex being a prominent part of the knowledge young people needed when growing up.

Society is still suffering this retro idea problem, but at the same time we have the duel problem of morality being tossed aside with religion, although the two are easily seperated. This means that many youngsters do not have the same morals or ethics as their forebearers and therefore see sex as an uncomplicated thrill with no consequences to them. This is why the UK has more teenage pregnancy than other parts of Europe where the morals are either still intact due to religion or have been kept when the religious ideas disappeared. It is the same for respect of authority figures, although this can be argued to be partly attributed to some authority figures abusing their position and a greater distrust of power.

Sorry if this sounds like a lecture, I just thought someone somewhere might be interested!
Fri 14/12/01 at 19:51
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Hur hur hur, a Staffie said "Masturbation" even though he spelt it wrong :-D
Fri 14/12/01 at 19:35
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Once every six seconds is an average worked out. It means that on average men think about sex a sixth of the time (4 hours a day) which is understandable. If you subtract sleep time of 8 hours as this dosent count then its 2 2/3 hours. Not all that lond really, time spent looking at the secretary at work/girls at school, time down the pub or other social activities and then time in your own home.

I am glad to be living in this day and age and not in the past. We have a freedom of speach that is unprecedented and getting better every day. You can say/write what every you want (as long as it is not illegal) and as such people understand other people more.

This has helped so many children understand sex more. In the old days they would just get to there wedding night and try to work out what to do. Masterbation was a sin and people thought it would case blindness, how in the hell could it do that.

The thing is this taboo was mainly created by religion. They made it a sin and so after thousands of years of us being told we will go to a very hot place if we think about sex it will take us a while to be able to speak completly freely. It is remarkable how far we have come in such a short amount of time.
Thu 13/12/01 at 16:48
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sideshow buzz wrote:
> Apparently men think about it every 6 seconds.

This is a silly thing to say. It's like of you say to someone "Write a tally of how many times you think about elephants in the next minute" The results would be higher than the truth.
Wed 12/12/01 at 19:37
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Meant to write six carbons... wrote sex carbons... Hmmm
Wed 12/12/01 at 00:26
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Sex. I've got nothing to say on the subject really - even though it seems to be always on my mind....
Tue 11/12/01 at 23:03
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Been drinking again Sheepy? I can smell it on your breath, you're grounded, up to your room at once....
Tue 11/12/01 at 22:36
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Maybe there all too embarrassed... see you as a dad :)

The only time I hate "sex" being mentioned is around family, like TV or a flm, very embarrasing... although the rest I'm fine about, just find a lot of it boring believe it or not :)

Sorry couldn't do bigger reply pb, just I forgot what I just read.
Tue 11/12/01 at 22:03
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So that was a nice mature discussion then....

...perhaps I'd better stick to FOG....
Mon 10/12/01 at 19:56
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sideshow buzz wrote:
> Apparently men think about it every 6 seconds.

So if you don't think about it
> for say an hour does that mean by the law of averages that you will think about
> it 600 times sucessively with no break in between?

Yes.

And I'd like to point out I'm not 13... no sir'ee... err... *runs*

:-D

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