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Mon 03/12/01 at 19:02
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With cannabis virtually as good as legal now, for users if not suppliers, where do we stand on this?

A mass selling out of morals because of a general acceptance of it, even among non-users?

Where does the acceptance end? Are E's much further behind in the popularity contest? Or are the risks what seperates the two?

Should weed be legal? Should we judge by the Dutch situation, where there doesn't seem to be a problem?

I'll leave the merits of the argumens to be argued by anyone with strong views, except for this:

People arguing that it should be legal, with lines like 'it helps people with arthiritis...'
You don't want it to be legal it ease the discomfort of the guy your grandad knows. You want it legalised so you can get high. No other reason, so it's disrespectful to anyone who does use it for medicinal benefit to abuse their argument that way.
Also, it's a shallow line of reasoning that doesn't even touch on widespread use.
No, don't say you can use the bi-products to make hemp ropes...
Tue 04/12/01 at 01:32
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*Did Van Gogh cut his ear off under the influence of marijuana?

*Are there deaths and countless injuries caused by stoned football hooligans?

*Did weed burst Duff MacKagan's pancreas?

*Does weed cause cancer without tobacco?

*Do stoned husbands take their aggression out on their families?

*Do young teenage children get admitted to hospital with weed-poisoning of the blood from underage use of marijuana?

...I think people should take a look at what *is* legal in this country:

*Alcohol (the wife-beating, liver-punching, violence inducing beverage)

*Tobacco (the lung-blackening, larynx shredding little number)

... i don't think these should be made illegal, i enjoy both in their own way, i think it's worth thinking about though... whatever your views on the legalisation of marijuana, you have to wonder why the substances we *are* allowed are the ones which more often than not result in death. (A sad example being George Harrisson, who died of lung and throat cancer at a friend's house just the other day - a man who, seemingly, is worth a half hour/hour special before 'Top of the pops' - IRONY OVERLOAD! Surely he is far important to so, so many people than whoever the latest teen songstress is.....?)

It's all back to front i tells ya.
Mon 03/12/01 at 20:06
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I heard one theory recently that the only reason cannabis acts as a so-called 'gateway drug' to harder stuff is because of the way the dealers try to lead users onto other drugs. Hence legalise it (and cut out the dealers), and you actually improve the situation as regards the use of hard drugs.
Not certain about it yet, but it's an interesting theory.
Mon 03/12/01 at 19:17
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Must say cannabis leaves me cold. Spend my life fending off the munchies, talking rubbish and trying not to drop asleep mid sentence. Certainly don't need to make this any worse.
In terms of legalisation I must say I agree with it. Its so widespread, relatively harmless (the link between "soft" and "hard" drugs is dubious) that its only a matter of time. Coffee was once drunk in illegal dens due to its narcotic effects. Times change. One generations poison is anothers Starbucks.
My only concern is that like Amsterdam London will turn into a mecca for stoned european youth. Amsterdam is a beautiful city blighted by drugs and the pondlife it attracts. Hopefully as the novelty has worn off London won't suffer the same fate.
Mon 03/12/01 at 19:02
Regular
Posts: 8,220
With cannabis virtually as good as legal now, for users if not suppliers, where do we stand on this?

A mass selling out of morals because of a general acceptance of it, even among non-users?

Where does the acceptance end? Are E's much further behind in the popularity contest? Or are the risks what seperates the two?

Should weed be legal? Should we judge by the Dutch situation, where there doesn't seem to be a problem?

I'll leave the merits of the argumens to be argued by anyone with strong views, except for this:

People arguing that it should be legal, with lines like 'it helps people with arthiritis...'
You don't want it to be legal it ease the discomfort of the guy your grandad knows. You want it legalised so you can get high. No other reason, so it's disrespectful to anyone who does use it for medicinal benefit to abuse their argument that way.
Also, it's a shallow line of reasoning that doesn't even touch on widespread use.
No, don't say you can use the bi-products to make hemp ropes...

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