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Thu 29/11/01 at 23:31
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I just had to prove that the derivative of the formula for solving quadratic equations was as follows:

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We know that (x + m) squared = n
where n is greater or equal to 0

has the following solutions:

x = -m +/- sqrt n

So multiply (x + m) squared to give

x sqrd +2mx + m sqrd = n

or

x sqrd + 2mx + (m sqrd - n) = 0

a(x sqrd) + bx + c = 0 can be written as

x sqrd = (b/a)x + (c/a)x = 0

Therefore

2m = b/a and m sqrd - n = c/a

Therefore

m = b/(2a) and n = m sqrd - c/a

Therefore

n = (b/(2a)) sqrd - c/a

n = (b sqrd)/(4(a sqrd)) - c/a

n = ((b sqrd) - (4ac))/(4(a sqrd))

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Does it look right to you?
Sat 01/12/01 at 19:35
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Ok, I will prove the formula for you:

When I say xSQ I mean x^2, and when I say ROOT(A+B)/3 I mean the root of (a + b) and AFTER THE ROOT IS TAKEN divide by 3.

axSQ + bx +c = 0

(quadratic formula) Now, take out a factor of a:

a(xSQ + (b/a)x + c/a) = 0

Complete the square (if you don't get this, look in any gcse maths text book for "completing the square":

a[(x + (b/2a))SQ - (bSQ)/(4aSQ) + c/a)] = 0

Divide by a:

x + (b/2a)SQ - (bSQ)/(4aSQ) + c/a = 0

(x + (b/2a))SQ = (bSQ)/(4aSQ) - c/a

Now, remember that c/a = 4ac/4aSQ :

(x + (b/2a))SQ = (bSQ)/(4aSQ) - (4ac)/(4aSQ)

(x + (b/2a))SQ = (bSQ -4ac)/(4aSQ)
Take the sq root of the right and left (remember the root can be + or -!):

x + b/2a = +/-[ROOT(bSQ-4ac)/2a]
x = -b/2a +/-[ROOT(bSQ-4ac)/2a]
x = {-b +/- ROOT( bSQ - 4ac)] / 2a


And that's it!

Sonic
Sat 01/12/01 at 19:09
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MISTAKE: should have been:

x = [-b +/- ROOT(b^2 -4ac] / [2a]

Sonic
Sat 01/12/01 at 19:08
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I all honesty FM, I don't understand half the things you've done (mainly due to the inability to use SQAURE signs easily online).

However, there are far better ways to go about proving the quadratic forumla... from what I remember, use "completing the square" on the original quadratic and work from there.

The huge problem with your method is that, from what I can see, it gives the wrong answer! The formula is actually:

x = [-b +/- (b^2 -4ac] / [2a]



Oh, having just read what Venom has to say, he has, in fact, come up with the best way to prove that the equation above solves the equation ax^2 + bx =c = 0... just take the one above, and arrange it into the form I nhave just given, and that I proof.

Sonic
Sat 01/12/01 at 18:42
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No its not right.

Look at it again, it may be a typo, but it doesn't look at all right to me.
Sat 01/12/01 at 17:46
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honest opinion

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Sat 01/12/01 at 17:41
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?? But I thought:

sprd= 2x + 71p
Sat 01/12/01 at 17:33
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Ummm... Yes... :-)
Sat 01/12/01 at 17:30
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Yep, looks fine to me.
Sat 01/12/01 at 17:05
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WAT!!!!! emmmmmmmmm no i dont understand. wwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
Fri 30/11/01 at 20:08
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FantasyMeister wrote:
Does it look right to you?

yes

and on the note of workin stuff out
while doing my taxes i accidently proved that God doesnt exist
i would post it but i dont want to

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