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Ever since you were born, there were certain things that you grew into, and I don’t mean nappies and clothes here and all the rest of it. I mean in technological terms we are put into a world in which they become an everyday part of our lives. We take them for granted although back when our parents were younger they would have just looked at these amazing achievements in technology with gaping mouths.
Nowadays anything new that is released on the console market is purely for competition reasons. Of course there are new inventions coming out all the time, but most never seem to see the light over in the United Kingdom. The gaming industry is something for big brains, which gets big pay cheques at the end. You need to be on top of everything and know exactly what you’re doing otherwise the company will sink quicker then the Titanic.
The competition is massive, with companies springing up all around the world trying to set an impression on us.
We’ve seen Apple, being crushed under the weight of Microsoft, Sony destroying Sega and Nintendo all at the same time, Coca Cola wiping the floor with Pepsi and Gameplay and Special Reserve competing always competing for the number one hot spot.
We’ve seen it all and it seems that everything is judged on appearance rather then performance and price is another important factor when purchasing something. We have become a nation of people who are impatient and very critical, we are the main stakeholders of each business and the computer gaming industry is definitely one of them. We have the biggest impact on it, whether it is from our opinions that affect the way the next game is produce to our needs. Information picked up from market research that leads from one thing to another. Then there are the sales; they will determine whether the game has sold correctly and all gone according to plan. This is a key figure to go on, as you know just how well you’ve done.
It seems that we have forgotten what is important anymore and judge things on appearance. As we all know, a wise man once said a wise man once said ‘Never judge a book by its cover’ that's the way I heard the proverb and this is true but unfortunately we tend to ignore it.
Let’s just change the topic for a minute here from gaming into everyday life. When buying clothing most teenagers will go for something that is popular. How you determine whether it is popular or not is all up to either your own opinions or down to what everyone else is buying. Most people are very conscious of what others think of them, this is mainly in the appearance department.
It seems that everything we abide by is judged purely on the way it looks. So you can already guess what I’m going to say next, you are probably thinking that this will lead me onto talking about graphics and how we judge games purely on that.
Well if those were your thought then you aren’t far from the truth, so let me explain.
You find one of the most talked about things around the forums being the competition between console companies. Whether it is the power of the console, the ability that it has to offer, the games, the controllers or the size people will find a way to complain. But what I want to talk and concentrate on is how graphics affect the way you look at the game.
Back when Grand Theft Auto was released, the government parents and anyone who thought they had authority began to moan about the content in the game. It was supposedly unacceptable to have children playing on this game and giving them the impression that it was fine to go around and shoot people whilst trying to steal their car in real life and even with the 18 certificate printed in the bottom right hand corner of the case it still wasn’t enough to put worrying parents off.
It is my personal opinion and probably from many others out there that the only reason we are able to play on GTA today is because of the realism in the game. Even all those many years ago the games designers were capable of much more visually then GTA was. Maybe they were lazy or perchance they knew the game would never have found its way onto the high street if it were any more realistic.
The reason we got the impression from GTA for its violence was not only in the title but the whole point of the game, killing people and nicking their cars. It doesn’t take a genius to work that out. So I ask you, why do people find things like Pokemon to be childish?
It’s the same sort of thing isn’t it? Violence but to a different extreme. You replace the human beings with ‘childish’ characters that seem harmless and put them into a ring to fight till the death. I’ve never heard once in my life anyone complain about that but what if you turn that around.
You replace the ‘childish’ characters that seem harmless and put human beings in their place. They are then put into a ring where they will fight towards their death.
What impact would that have had on the public as the only difference is that now instead of fluffy, cuddly and loveable creatures being used, human beings are used. You automatically can image everything, the gore that the game would contain, the realism it would enclose and the moaning that would come as a result of it.
But the case seems that even when the game doesn’t contain something that of realistic quantity. Resident Evil didn’t cause a stir as such but it was a game that was made to terrify and did a perfect job of doing so. Was the reason for that not finding fame due to its violence a result of zombies being used instead of people? Or perhaps it was because the game didn’t contain something that happens in everyday life?
If this was the case, then why was Metal Gear Solid just the same? MGS was a game, in which human beings were murdered in cold blood by either getting shot or killed with the help of your characters own hands. So what made GTA worse then this game? It’s all a state of realism and just how far people are willing to go to make the game something that sells or something that gets unwanted attention.
Does anyone else have any opinions on this?
Nowadays anything new that is released on the console market is purely for competition reasons. Of course there are new inventions coming out all the time, but most never seem to see the light over in the United Kingdom. The gaming industry is something for big brains, which gets big pay cheques at the end. You need to be on top of everything and know exactly what you’re doing otherwise the company will sink quicker then the Titanic.
The competition is massive, with companies springing up all around the world trying to set an impression on us.
We’ve seen Apple, being crushed under the weight of Microsoft, Sony destroying Sega and Nintendo all at the same time, Coca Cola wiping the floor with Pepsi and Gameplay and Special Reserve competing always competing for the number one hot spot.
We’ve seen it all and it seems that everything is judged on appearance rather then performance and price is another important factor when purchasing something. We have become a nation of people who are impatient and very critical, we are the main stakeholders of each business and the computer gaming industry is definitely one of them. We have the biggest impact on it, whether it is from our opinions that affect the way the next game is produce to our needs. Information picked up from market research that leads from one thing to another. Then there are the sales; they will determine whether the game has sold correctly and all gone according to plan. This is a key figure to go on, as you know just how well you’ve done.
It seems that we have forgotten what is important anymore and judge things on appearance. As we all know, a wise man once said a wise man once said ‘Never judge a book by its cover’ that's the way I heard the proverb and this is true but unfortunately we tend to ignore it.
Let’s just change the topic for a minute here from gaming into everyday life. When buying clothing most teenagers will go for something that is popular. How you determine whether it is popular or not is all up to either your own opinions or down to what everyone else is buying. Most people are very conscious of what others think of them, this is mainly in the appearance department.
It seems that everything we abide by is judged purely on the way it looks. So you can already guess what I’m going to say next, you are probably thinking that this will lead me onto talking about graphics and how we judge games purely on that.
Well if those were your thought then you aren’t far from the truth, so let me explain.
You find one of the most talked about things around the forums being the competition between console companies. Whether it is the power of the console, the ability that it has to offer, the games, the controllers or the size people will find a way to complain. But what I want to talk and concentrate on is how graphics affect the way you look at the game.
Back when Grand Theft Auto was released, the government parents and anyone who thought they had authority began to moan about the content in the game. It was supposedly unacceptable to have children playing on this game and giving them the impression that it was fine to go around and shoot people whilst trying to steal their car in real life and even with the 18 certificate printed in the bottom right hand corner of the case it still wasn’t enough to put worrying parents off.
It is my personal opinion and probably from many others out there that the only reason we are able to play on GTA today is because of the realism in the game. Even all those many years ago the games designers were capable of much more visually then GTA was. Maybe they were lazy or perchance they knew the game would never have found its way onto the high street if it were any more realistic.
The reason we got the impression from GTA for its violence was not only in the title but the whole point of the game, killing people and nicking their cars. It doesn’t take a genius to work that out. So I ask you, why do people find things like Pokemon to be childish?
It’s the same sort of thing isn’t it? Violence but to a different extreme. You replace the human beings with ‘childish’ characters that seem harmless and put them into a ring to fight till the death. I’ve never heard once in my life anyone complain about that but what if you turn that around.
You replace the ‘childish’ characters that seem harmless and put human beings in their place. They are then put into a ring where they will fight towards their death.
What impact would that have had on the public as the only difference is that now instead of fluffy, cuddly and loveable creatures being used, human beings are used. You automatically can image everything, the gore that the game would contain, the realism it would enclose and the moaning that would come as a result of it.
But the case seems that even when the game doesn’t contain something that of realistic quantity. Resident Evil didn’t cause a stir as such but it was a game that was made to terrify and did a perfect job of doing so. Was the reason for that not finding fame due to its violence a result of zombies being used instead of people? Or perhaps it was because the game didn’t contain something that happens in everyday life?
If this was the case, then why was Metal Gear Solid just the same? MGS was a game, in which human beings were murdered in cold blood by either getting shot or killed with the help of your characters own hands. So what made GTA worse then this game? It’s all a state of realism and just how far people are willing to go to make the game something that sells or something that gets unwanted attention.
Does anyone else have any opinions on this?
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Parents often complain because in their days consoles where not to be heard of. They never had anything like GTA3 or Resident Evil. So they don’t know how to take it. It’s like when Rock music was first created ages ago. People named it Devil Music, as they’ve never seen anything like it.
But I suppose, when were adults there’ll be something that we find bad like parents do today. There might be something like the Matrix were you can tap into each others brain, and we’ll probably think that its bad for you and that it shouldn’t be banned as we’ve never seen anything like it.
Its just parents being over protective!
But I suppose, when were adults there’ll be something that we find bad like parents do today. There might be something like the Matrix were you can tap into each others brain, and we’ll probably think that its bad for you and that it shouldn’t be banned as we’ve never seen anything like it.
Its just parents being over protective!
I think that people who can't tell what's real and not real in games just shouldn't play them. As the saying goes, "Violent games don't create psycho killers". I feel strongly that it's true. If someone kills because they do it in a game, then they have something wrong with their mentality, it's nothing to do with the game. These psychos and their parents only use the gaming industry as an escuse and frankly, that stinks! People that sue the gaming industry like that need to get a life, because they have millions of gaming fans worldwide against them. As I like to say, "Don't blame the game, blame the player", which is a true to life phrase. If people don't like the content of games or can't handle it, then they shouldn't play it - a simple solution!
Firebalt.
Firebalt.
The thing with Pokemon is, the lead character is a 10 year old, so the main audience will be around that age, it may seem violent and kids watching animals fight on tv may teach thembad things, well the animals don't look real + I think children can tell the difference between cartoons and real life, but I guess some have more imagination than others.
You say that in things like Pokemon, it's really violent because they kill each other n all. Not to nit pick or anything, but I don't think anyone EVER dies in Pokemon do they?
As you may notice, when a Pokemon is beaten, it just becomes unconsious or something. Nothing is ever ripped to shreads and left for dead in the middle of the arena!
Thus this does not really show extreme violence to children like something like Resident Evil would. But rather it is mimicing a friendly sport, where noone really gets hurt.
:)
As you may notice, when a Pokemon is beaten, it just becomes unconsious or something. Nothing is ever ripped to shreads and left for dead in the middle of the arena!
Thus this does not really show extreme violence to children like something like Resident Evil would. But rather it is mimicing a friendly sport, where noone really gets hurt.
:)
So I ask you, why do people find things like Pokemon
> to be childish?
It’s the same sort of thing isn’t it? Violence but to a
> different extreme. You replace the human beings with ‘childish’ characters that
> seem harmless and put them into a ring to fight till the death. I’ve never
> heard once in my life anyone complain about that but what if you turn that
> around.
UTTER brilliant there Mr Nice Guy the best thing i have ever heared well done you deserve a GAD for that statement!
> to be childish?
It’s the same sort of thing isn’t it? Violence but to a
> different extreme. You replace the human beings with ‘childish’ characters that
> seem harmless and put them into a ring to fight till the death. I’ve never
> heard once in my life anyone complain about that but what if you turn that
> around.
UTTER brilliant there Mr Nice Guy the best thing i have ever heared well done you deserve a GAD for that statement!
Humm...very interesting.
I can see what you mean, in Pokemon they basically just try and hurt eachother. However, it's not an 18 or whatever thanks to it's cartoonie graphics and chilish nature. The same goes for a lot of cartoons, and comics for that matter.
Well written Nice Guy, actually made me think for once. {:)
I can see what you mean, in Pokemon they basically just try and hurt eachother. However, it's not an 18 or whatever thanks to it's cartoonie graphics and chilish nature. The same goes for a lot of cartoons, and comics for that matter.
Well written Nice Guy, actually made me think for once. {:)
Nice post made me think. About pokemon and all. Change the scenary around and change the charecters and you have an 18 game. Very nicely done with a different view on things.
This time last year I read every thread but now, Woah! Too many posts! Over 1000 a day? Christ!
An interesting name for a post will often grab me, or if it has stuck around for a few days, with plenty of posts in it.
It's a shame there isn't a 'crap filter' but one mans crap is anothers so it's impossible!
An interesting name for a post will often grab me, or if it has stuck around for a few days, with plenty of posts in it.
It's a shame there isn't a 'crap filter' but one mans crap is anothers
Meka_Dragon wrote:
Heh. That was a mistake.
(At least I know you read it all though)
You maybe surprised but I read every post in FOG Prime, FOG Chat, DVD Forum, Life and Customer Service Thread. I just don't reply to all of them, that's all.
I don't really care who wrote it, how long (Not over 3000 words) or what it's about just as long as it appears intresting or is discussing something that comes of intrest.
I find though that most people surf for names and mine ain't one of those names they look for.
Heh. That was a mistake.
(At least I know you read it all though)
You maybe surprised but I read every post in FOG Prime, FOG Chat, DVD Forum, Life and Customer Service Thread. I just don't reply to all of them, that's all.
I don't really care who wrote it, how long (Not over 3000 words) or what it's about just as long as it appears intresting or is discussing something that comes of intrest.
I find though that most people surf for names and mine ain't one of those names they look for.
Heh. That was a mistake.
(At least I know you read it all though)
Being at work, I often have to write parts of posts in small Notepad boxes, whilst pretending to look at spreadsheets, that last paragraph was written in one such text box.
I didn't think I had copied it properly, as I'd copied the line of spaces, and didn't realise I'd already pasted it, when I chose to copy and paste again!
I thought it looked long when looking back over the post, and couldn't remember writing that much....
(At least I know you read it all though)
Being at work, I often have to write parts of posts in small Notepad boxes, whilst pretending to look at spreadsheets, that last paragraph was written in one such text box.
I didn't think I had copied it properly, as I'd copied the line of spaces, and didn't realise I'd already pasted it, when I chose to copy and paste again!
I thought it looked long when looking back over the post, and couldn't remember writing that much....
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