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After reading many reports from America about the Xbox I can say that I will not be getting one. Apparently a lot of people are having problems with games, the seam to be crashing on them. Its not just one game its all of them, people are having big problems. The thing has only been out a day and people are already talking about what I feared would happen......PATCHES!!
This is not good, people like consoles because you get a game put it in and it works. The people will not like getting a game, installing it, having it crash, going to the internet to get an update, installing it and hoping that just when you get to the end of a level in will not crash again.
I only hope Microsoft get this sorted fast before the Xbox disappears in to obscurity.
This is not good, people like consoles because you get a game put it in and it works. The people will not like getting a game, installing it, having it crash, going to the internet to get an update, installing it and hoping that just when you get to the end of a level in will not crash again.
I only hope Microsoft get this sorted fast before the Xbox disappears in to obscurity.
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viperfire1956 wrote:
> After reading many reports from America about the Xbox I can say that I will not
> be getting one. Apparently a lot of people are having problems with games, the
> seam to be crashing on them. Its not just one game its all of them, people are
> having big problems. The thing has only been out a day and people are already
> talking about what I feared would happen......PATCHES!!
This is not good,
> people like consoles because you get a game put it in and it works. The people
> will not like getting a game, installing it, having it crash, going to the
> internet to get an update, installing it and hoping that just when you get to
> the end of a level in will not crash again.
I only hope Microsoft get this
> sorted fast before the Xbox disappears in to obscurity.
The XBOX unfortunately had an error message appear on the screen at the recent E3 show in the US. It looked very similar to a PC problem.
> After reading many reports from America about the Xbox I can say that I will not
> be getting one. Apparently a lot of people are having problems with games, the
> seam to be crashing on them. Its not just one game its all of them, people are
> having big problems. The thing has only been out a day and people are already
> talking about what I feared would happen......PATCHES!!
This is not good,
> people like consoles because you get a game put it in and it works. The people
> will not like getting a game, installing it, having it crash, going to the
> internet to get an update, installing it and hoping that just when you get to
> the end of a level in will not crash again.
I only hope Microsoft get this
> sorted fast before the Xbox disappears in to obscurity.
The XBOX unfortunately had an error message appear on the screen at the recent E3 show in the US. It looked very similar to a PC problem.
Initially the chip was a Geforce 3 chip. I wonder why made it custom made for the X-box, although the chip was announced for the X-box way before it was for the PC.
It's good the way manufacturers use the public for free Beta testing.
Being a die hard PC gamer i am used to it, but my kids aren't along with many of the public.
It's good the way manufacturers use the public for free Beta testing.
Being a die hard PC gamer i am used to it, but my kids aren't along with many of the public.
tcook51839 wrote:
> The CPU is off-the-shelf but Microsoft claim the GPU is custom made for the
> XBox.
Is that what they're saying now? Originally it was claimed to be a GeForce3 chip. Then I believe Apple said that one of their Mac platforms would actually be the first system to be equipped with a GeForce3, earlier this year - before even the PC graphics cards were available. So MS have changed their story? (This isn't a dig at you, this is just the story so far as I recall it.)
> The link you posted here directed me to an article referring directly
> to a demo box found in a shop, it was dated in September.
The link...
http://www.gaming-age.com/ cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2001&m=10&nid=22-159.db
...is actually dated 30th October, and I quote...
"The in-store demo units are believed to be actual finalized hardware that consumers will see at launch."
> One good thing about the UK getting the
> hardware late is that it should have been well tested by the time we get
> it
Very true. We can but hope!
> The CPU is off-the-shelf but Microsoft claim the GPU is custom made for the
> XBox.
Is that what they're saying now? Originally it was claimed to be a GeForce3 chip. Then I believe Apple said that one of their Mac platforms would actually be the first system to be equipped with a GeForce3, earlier this year - before even the PC graphics cards were available. So MS have changed their story? (This isn't a dig at you, this is just the story so far as I recall it.)
> The link you posted here directed me to an article referring directly
> to a demo box found in a shop, it was dated in September.
The link...
http://www.gaming-age.com/ cgi-bin/news/news.pl?y=2001&m=10&nid=22-159.db
...is actually dated 30th October, and I quote...
"The in-store demo units are believed to be actual finalized hardware that consumers will see at launch."
> One good thing about the UK getting the
> hardware late is that it should have been well tested by the time we get
> it
Very true. We can but hope!
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> tcook51839 wrote:
> I was in Curry's on Sunday, the PS2 had broken down. Can
> this be classed
> as a crash?
Of course it can. All machines crash
> occasionally. The point is that MS's fanfare and hype has made many claims
> about them not having the same problems that Sony had with their production,
> etc.
Sony's hardware was custom-made, with them building two
> chip-manufacturing plants to produce their hardware. There were going to be
> early production issues.
Microsoft are using essentially off-the-shelf
> hardware, and they still can't get the bugs out. ;-)
The CPU is off-the-shelf but Microsoft claim the GPU is custom made for the XBox.
The link you posted here directed me to an article referring directly to a demo box found in a shop, it was dated in September. It is only fair to expect a pre-production model to crash once in a while.
It is frustrating though that they inflict these "sick" demo machines on the public, luckily it was the Americans and not us. One good thing about the UK getting the hardware late is that it should have been well tested by the time we get it
The point is that there has been nothing written to point to every machine crashing, which was the original topic of this thread.
It's true that some do crash which, i've pointed out, happens to every console/computer.
> tcook51839 wrote:
> I was in Curry's on Sunday, the PS2 had broken down. Can
> this be classed
> as a crash?
Of course it can. All machines crash
> occasionally. The point is that MS's fanfare and hype has made many claims
> about them not having the same problems that Sony had with their production,
> etc.
Sony's hardware was custom-made, with them building two
> chip-manufacturing plants to produce their hardware. There were going to be
> early production issues.
Microsoft are using essentially off-the-shelf
> hardware, and they still can't get the bugs out. ;-)
The CPU is off-the-shelf but Microsoft claim the GPU is custom made for the XBox.
The link you posted here directed me to an article referring directly to a demo box found in a shop, it was dated in September. It is only fair to expect a pre-production model to crash once in a while.
It is frustrating though that they inflict these "sick" demo machines on the public, luckily it was the Americans and not us. One good thing about the UK getting the hardware late is that it should have been well tested by the time we get it
The point is that there has been nothing written to point to every machine crashing, which was the original topic of this thread.
It's true that some do crash which, i've pointed out, happens to every console/computer.
tcook51839 wrote:
> I was in Curry's on Sunday, the PS2 had broken down. Can this be classed
> as a crash?
Of course it can. All machines crash occasionally. The point is that MS's fanfare and hype has made many claims about them not having the same problems that Sony had with their production, etc.
Sony's hardware was custom-made, with them building two chip-manufacturing plants to produce their hardware. There were going to be early production issues.
Microsoft are using essentially off-the-shelf hardware, and they still can't get the bugs out. ;-)
> I was in Curry's on Sunday, the PS2 had broken down. Can this be classed
> as a crash?
Of course it can. All machines crash occasionally. The point is that MS's fanfare and hype has made many claims about them not having the same problems that Sony had with their production, etc.
Sony's hardware was custom-made, with them building two chip-manufacturing plants to produce their hardware. There were going to be early production issues.
Microsoft are using essentially off-the-shelf hardware, and they still can't get the bugs out. ;-)
tcook51839 wrote:
> I read this article, and yes the Demo boxes are buggy.
These aren't demo boxes - they're final release hardware.
> I read this article, and yes the Demo boxes are buggy.
These aren't demo boxes - they're final release hardware.
GrimMetal wrote:
> I agree with tcook. Demo boxes DO crash. The n64, dreamcast and ps2 boxes all
> crash in the 'puter shops coz they are on all day, they have irritating little
> kids tugging the cables out and so and so forth. Anybody that claims they own
> one and its crashing are just (normally) pro sony idiots!
WOW someone agrees with me. Got to keep this up.
I was in Curry's on Sunday, the PS2 had broken down. Can this be classed as a crash?
About a year ago not a single DC demo box, in my local town, was working. The shop assistants said the fans had broken and the system had overheated.
> I agree with tcook. Demo boxes DO crash. The n64, dreamcast and ps2 boxes all
> crash in the 'puter shops coz they are on all day, they have irritating little
> kids tugging the cables out and so and so forth. Anybody that claims they own
> one and its crashing are just (normally) pro sony idiots!
WOW someone agrees with me. Got to keep this up.
I was in Curry's on Sunday, the PS2 had broken down. Can this be classed as a crash?
About a year ago not a single DC demo box, in my local town, was working. The shop assistants said the fans had broken and the system had overheated.
actually you still do have people in the ps2 forum complaining that their ps2 has crashed.....but that is more to do with playing for FAR too long....
I agree with tcook. Demo boxes DO crash. The n64, dreamcast and ps2 boxes all crash in the 'puter shops coz they are on all day, they have irritating little kids tugging the cables out and so and so forth. Anybody that claims they own one and its crashing are just (normally) pro sony idiots!
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