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Fri 09/05/03 at 11:48
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Microsoft's latest security lapse with its Passport information service could trigger a $2.2 trillion fine on the company courtesy of the US government.

Microsoft on Thursday admitted that a flaw in the password reset tool of its Passport service could compromise the information stored on all 200 million users. It scampered to post a fix and is looking into potential exploits, but the damage to Microsoft may already have been done.

The Federal Trade Commission last year demanded that Microsoft improve its Passport security or face stiff fines of up to $11,000 per violation. Redmond promised to work harder to protect consumer information and launched it's Trustworthy Computing initiative to put regulators' minds at ease.

Well, the FTC is looking into the Passport breach and could slap Microsoft with a fine of $2.2 trillion to cover all 200 million violated users.

"If we were to find that they didn't take reasonable safeguards to protect the information, that could be an order violation," Jessica Rich, assistant director for financial practices at the FTC, told the AP.

The flaw was discovered close to four minutes after security researcher Muhammad Faisal Rauf Danka set to work on Passport. He was able to access Passport accounts at will by typing "emailpwdreset" into a URL that has the e-mail address of a user account and the address where a reset message can be sent.

A number of people claim to have exploited the flaw on their own accounts and those of friends. With permission from their comrades, of course.

Microsoft sent out a warning by 8 p.m. last night and then plugged the hole three hours later.

The company is very upset about the problem, as evidenced by Microsoft product manager Adam Sohn's comment to CNET.

"Whatever," Sohn said.

Actually, he did not say that, but his real remarks were less than compelling.

"You live and learn," Sohn said. "We will obviously take a hard look to make sure that if something is sent through the nonstandard channels, and it is real, we are all over it."

Live and learn? Can we afford to wait for Microsoft to crawl toward secure code or is password security one of those things we should learn to live without?

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Fri 09/05/03 at 16:47
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The US one makes more sense, follows the scientific notations of Mega-, Giga-, Tera- etc by going up by x1000 every time.
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:43
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I've always gone with the 'american' way when doing calculations and stuff, haven't been corrected on it if its wrong.
the way I was taught (as shown by BEARDS. post) is that
1000 = a thousand
1000x1000 = a million
1000x1000x1000 = a billion
I suppose it would follow that
1000x1000x1000x1000 = a trillion
(just another way of showing the numbers)
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:39
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maddmun wrote:
> Wrong. Our billion is a thousand million, that's what a trillion is to
> them.
> THey're billion is a trillion to us.

I believe BEARDS.' post said all i needed to say.
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:35
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My head hurts
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:19
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Million =1,000,000
Billion (US/Accepted) = 1,000,000,000
Bilion (Old English) = 1,000,000,000,000
Trillion (US/Accepted) = 1,000,000,000,000

Old english measurements had a billion equal a million million, US had a billion equal a thousand million. US one is generally accepted.
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:10
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the_aoe_slaught wrote:
> Evil Salamander wrote:
> maddmun wrote:
> And for the record, a trillion to the AMericans is a billon to us.
>
> a trillion is
>
> 1000 x 1,000,000,000 (billion)
>
> so your saying a pound is 1000 times bigger than a dollar?
>
> No, just that an American billion is 1 000 000 000 and ours is 1 000
> 000 000 000

Wrong. Our billion is a thousand million, that's what a trillion is to them.
THey're billion is a trillion to us.
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:07
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SHEEPY wrote:
> The users should get the £11,000
>
> Damn free service

That would be so cool...

...and why do the government get the money?...

...which government aswell because there are hotmail users around the world.
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:06
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The users should get the £11,000

Damn free service
Fri 09/05/03 at 16:01
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Evil Salamander wrote:
> maddmun wrote:
> And for the record, a trillion to the AMericans is a billon to us.
>
> a trillion is
>
> 1000 x 1,000,000,000 (billion)
>
> so your saying a pound is 1000 times bigger than a dollar?

No, just that an American billion is 1 000 000 000 and ours is 1 000 000 000 000
Fri 09/05/03 at 15:58
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maddmun wrote:
> And for the record, a trillion to the AMericans is a billon to us.

a trillion is

1000 x 1,000,000,000 (billion)

so your saying a pound is 1000 times bigger than a dollar?

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