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Is the P.C the way forward in modern videogaming? Unlike consoles P.C's can be constantly upgraded, but is this actualy cost affective? Three months ago 128mb ram was seen as great but now it's average -512mb ram anyone? As for me? Well I'm staying firmly with consoles, as there is no slow down, hardware problems or need to spend £300 on a graphics card evey 6 months. Is P.C the way forward? Well for word processing it is, but as soon as the three gaming giants of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft bring out their latest incarnations; we'll really see what format rocks the gaming world.
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Fogmaster wrote:
they may cost a
> lot to upgrade every year or so, but it's worth it, none of us would be here
> without PCs, we owe them a lot. :)
This is a common misnomer... Ive had my PC since 1998... during which time Ive spent 15 quid upgrading to 128MB Ram and 50quid on a new graphics card...
As it stands it has no problem running Max Payne at 1024x768 with all options on FULL
Given the price of new controllers/HDD/Rumble Packs/Memory Packs... and more importantly the price of games...
40 odd quid for a console titles...
25 quid ofr a PC title...
In the long run it often works out cheaper to get a PC?...
they may cost a
> lot to upgrade every year or so, but it's worth it, none of us would be here
> without PCs, we owe them a lot. :)
This is a common misnomer... Ive had my PC since 1998... during which time Ive spent 15 quid upgrading to 128MB Ram and 50quid on a new graphics card...
As it stands it has no problem running Max Payne at 1024x768 with all options on FULL
Given the price of new controllers/HDD/Rumble Packs/Memory Packs... and more importantly the price of games...
40 odd quid for a console titles...
25 quid ofr a PC title...
In the long run it often works out cheaper to get a PC?...
PC's take a lot of love and care, but I don't think unless you want to use it for something other than homework and games, you need either A) to buy a console or B) learn to do something new and intresting with your pc.
they may cost a lot to upgrade every year or so, but it's worth it, none of us would be here without PCs, we owe them a lot. :)
they may cost a lot to upgrade every year or so, but it's worth it, none of us would be here without PCs, we owe them a lot. :)
Gaming Boy wrote:
> Not sure, but it seems to be less hassle.
this is the sort of thing you need to being doing...
(from the eliteclub.co.uk)
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As with many old games, some users may experience problems running them on modern systems. Here are some tips which may help you get them running:
The games can only be run in 'pure' DOS mode. This means you must use "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" in Windows 95/98 - the games cannot be run under Windows. This can be a problem for users of Windows NT/2000, since DOS is not included with these operating systems. Users of Windows ME may also experience problems as DOS mode is not accessible by default. There are guides on the Web which can tell you how to make it accessible - we recommend you exercise caution and do not attempt this procedure unless you know what you're doing.
You will need DOS mouse and sound drivers. These may or may not have been supplied with your computer. If not, you will usually be able to find them on the net.
Mouse driver: CuteMouse
Sound driver: Refer to the website of your sound card's manufacturer.
Both games need a lot of free base memory (also known as conventional memory). This is the first 640K of memory that older DOS programs need to fit into when they first run. Problems can arise when a lot background programs (drivers, TSR utilities, and even DOS itself) are loaded into base memory and take up too much of it for other programs to run. To solve this problem, you can load some background programs into upper memory. The following settings in the files C:\config.sys and C:\autoexec.bat may help you acheive this:
config.sys:
DOS=HIGH,UMB,AUTO
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM
Change all other instances of DEVICE= to DEVICEHIGH=
autoexec.bat:
Put LH in front of background programs such as KEYB, DOSKEY, or your sound/mouse drivers, e.g.
LH DOSKEY
You can also use LH when running programs outside of autoexec.bat - for example, if you load your mouse driver manually.
For more information on base memory and how to free it, refer to the following web pages:
http://www.pcguide.com/opt/opt/ram.htm
http://www.orrtax.com/Support/whitepapers/memory.htm
http://www.enren.gov.ar/web/Programas/memory.htm
http://members.home.net/wl75081/LogicalMemoryLayout.html
Not all sound cards will work correctly, even with DOS drivers. For First Encounters, you may wish to try a variety of different sound drivers using the setup utility. For Frontier, you should generally choose Adlib sound. If either game will not run, try running with sound disabled.
> Not sure, but it seems to be less hassle.
this is the sort of thing you need to being doing...
(from the eliteclub.co.uk)
-----
As with many old games, some users may experience problems running them on modern systems. Here are some tips which may help you get them running:
The games can only be run in 'pure' DOS mode. This means you must use "Restart in MS-DOS Mode" in Windows 95/98 - the games cannot be run under Windows. This can be a problem for users of Windows NT/2000, since DOS is not included with these operating systems. Users of Windows ME may also experience problems as DOS mode is not accessible by default. There are guides on the Web which can tell you how to make it accessible - we recommend you exercise caution and do not attempt this procedure unless you know what you're doing.
You will need DOS mouse and sound drivers. These may or may not have been supplied with your computer. If not, you will usually be able to find them on the net.
Mouse driver: CuteMouse
Sound driver: Refer to the website of your sound card's manufacturer.
Both games need a lot of free base memory (also known as conventional memory). This is the first 640K of memory that older DOS programs need to fit into when they first run. Problems can arise when a lot background programs (drivers, TSR utilities, and even DOS itself) are loaded into base memory and take up too much of it for other programs to run. To solve this problem, you can load some background programs into upper memory. The following settings in the files C:\config.sys and C:\autoexec.bat may help you acheive this:
config.sys:
DOS=HIGH,UMB,AUTO
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM
Change all other instances of DEVICE= to DEVICEHIGH=
autoexec.bat:
Put LH in front of background programs such as KEYB, DOSKEY, or your sound/mouse drivers, e.g.
LH DOSKEY
You can also use LH when running programs outside of autoexec.bat - for example, if you load your mouse driver manually.
For more information on base memory and how to free it, refer to the following web pages:
http://www.pcguide.com/opt/opt/ram.htm
http://www.orrtax.com/Support/whitepapers/memory.htm
http://www.enren.gov.ar/web/Programas/memory.htm
http://members.home.net/wl75081/LogicalMemoryLayout.html
Not all sound cards will work correctly, even with DOS drivers. For First Encounters, you may wish to try a variety of different sound drivers using the setup utility. For Frontier, you should generally choose Adlib sound. If either game will not run, try running with sound disabled.
not P.C.
too expensive and consoles will be able to do everything they can in a few years.
And probably a lot better too
too expensive and consoles will be able to do everything they can in a few years.
And probably a lot better too
Not sure, but it seems to be less hassle.
Gaming Boy wrote:
> Maybe, but I think I've got a better chance if I just network the two P.Cs, if
> my mum'll let me.
lol... how will that help?
> Maybe, but I think I've got a better chance if I just network the two P.Cs, if
> my mum'll let me.
lol... how will that help?
Maybe, but I think I've got a better chance if I just network the two P.Cs, if my mum'll let me.
Gaming Boy wrote:
> In plain English, does that mean that my new Win98 P.C is too advanced for it?
Kinda... it means Win98 isnt as backward compatible as it pretneds to be...
Ive heard XP is a lot better with Legacy titles... so maby it will work with that?
> In plain English, does that mean that my new Win98 P.C is too advanced for it?
Kinda... it means Win98 isnt as backward compatible as it pretneds to be...
Ive heard XP is a lot better with Legacy titles... so maby it will work with that?
In plain English, does that mean that my new Win98 P.C is too advanced for it?
Pink Fish wrote:
> Games like Max Payne are only good on the -now- top range P.C's, if you have
> anything less you are going top see that dreadful slow down.
Not really... Ive got a P2 450 which I bout in 1998 ... and its runs Max Paynes with ALL options at maximum at a res of 1024x768 with NO slowdown at all... it may work fine at higher resolutions, I havnt tried?
But
> as soon as the network browser for the PS2 comes out, I may not use my beige box
> in the corner -that'll probably be 'old skool' by then.
Still... how well does IE run on the PS2? ... How do you find upgrading the software? ... Is it any good at developing Web Pages? ... or just viewing?
> Games like Max Payne are only good on the -now- top range P.C's, if you have
> anything less you are going top see that dreadful slow down.
Not really... Ive got a P2 450 which I bout in 1998 ... and its runs Max Paynes with ALL options at maximum at a res of 1024x768 with NO slowdown at all... it may work fine at higher resolutions, I havnt tried?
But
> as soon as the network browser for the PS2 comes out, I may not use my beige box
> in the corner -that'll probably be 'old skool' by then.
Still... how well does IE run on the PS2? ... How do you find upgrading the software? ... Is it any good at developing Web Pages? ... or just viewing?
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