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Hey Everybody.
although this topic now has some discussion it is a Nintendo WLT and this discussion is nothing to do with Ninty...
Oh well
;-)
Oh well
;-)
what about KISS (the mask thing?). Oh and did the Misfits always wear masks? I thought they just wore make up sometimes???
Conspiracy Of One is still better (in my opinion) than the stuff Blink and Sum41 are putting out. Americana was OK if you are into Ska as well, but stuff like IxNay, Smash, and (from the two or so tracks I've heard) their self titled album were much punkier.
Conspiracy of One is darker than Americana, and some tracks are very good. Original Prankster, although very similar to Pretty Fly..., is still a highly infectious piece of punk. Special Delivery is by far the best track on it, and the Offspring, although in general are not as good as they have been, still make the occasional gem. (Staring at the Sun, Special Delivery, Come Out Swingin') which in my opinion are very good punk rock tracks.
Conspiracy Of One is still better (in my opinion) than the stuff Blink and Sum41 are putting out. Americana was OK if you are into Ska as well, but stuff like IxNay, Smash, and (from the two or so tracks I've heard) their self titled album were much punkier.
Conspiracy of One is darker than Americana, and some tracks are very good. Original Prankster, although very similar to Pretty Fly..., is still a highly infectious piece of punk. Special Delivery is by far the best track on it, and the Offspring, although in general are not as good as they have been, still make the occasional gem. (Staring at the Sun, Special Delivery, Come Out Swingin') which in my opinion are very good punk rock tracks.
I DON'T CARE!!!! Slipknot blaintantly got the mask idea from 'The Misfits'!! They try to be original but they, and their musicjust sucks!! BIG TIME!!!
Oh yeah, and about the Punk thing, I can't define it!! It's just more light hearted than the Metal stuff, but not as gay as Pop or Dance, and not as dull or boring as Indie!!
And I also think The Offspring should give up now!! Before they get even worse!! Their first few albums were great, but as time has gone on they've got a lot worse!! Especially when the best they can produce at the moment is a load of rubbish like Conspiracy Of One! Smash is probably their best album.
I'm also very surprised to see this section actually has an ongoing topic now!!! Usually all the posts just say: "Um.......Er......Someone fink of a topic please!!"
Oh yeah, and about the Punk thing, I can't define it!! It's just more light hearted than the Metal stuff, but not as gay as Pop or Dance, and not as dull or boring as Indie!!
And I also think The Offspring should give up now!! Before they get even worse!! Their first few albums were great, but as time has gone on they've got a lot worse!! Especially when the best they can produce at the moment is a load of rubbish like Conspiracy Of One! Smash is probably their best album.
I'm also very surprised to see this section actually has an ongoing topic now!!! Usually all the posts just say: "Um.......Er......Someone fink of a topic please!!"
Listen to NOFX if you think Punk bands are always angry.
lol, bet no one reads that post... far too long for a WLT!!!
oh, and punk isn't always angry (just listen to the Vandals! They are true comic punk!) but when good punk bands are angry it is for a real reason. (not like some punk bands who are just having teenage angst fits...)
I could give you a long winded definition of Punk, and what is widely considered Punk and what is not punk, but instead, here is something I just read a minute ago. It's the EPITAPH weekly Punk rock editorial!!!
Here it is...
I'm sure everyone knows at least one, heck there are probably more than a few reading right now, for, as I'm sorry to say, the punk scene is riddled with far too many Un-Punk Stupid Idiots. Just who is an Un-Punk Stupid Idiot you ask? Well I'm glad you did. Any kid in the punk scene with the wisdom, or lack thereof, to smoke cigarettes may impishly raise there hand and less than proudly declare that they have the qualifications to be a member of the Un-Punk Stupid Idiot Brigade.
Now I'm sure that those out there who play for Team Un-Punk Stupid Idiot are ready to quit reading this right now (which would qualify them for immediate advancement to the Reeeaaally Un-Punk Stupid Idiot division) and that is their right, but I challenge one and all to keep reading and learn for themselves why smoking cigarettes qualifies one immediate membership into the U.P.S.I. Members Only Fan Club.
There has been many (some may say far too many) discussions about what punk is, was, and ultimately should be, but there exists one thing that punk unequivocally is *not*: punk is not about becoming the Man's little love-child. There isn't a soul out there how can put up an argument against that, not even me. Well who or what is the Man exactly? Some have varying opinions, I even tried defining Him more than a year ago, but how's this for a theory? The Man is a bunch of rich, old, white guys who make a product that is more addictive than heroin, lie through their teeth that it is not, market that product to everyone within their reach including children, suck your money away with it every day or your life, and then ultimately kill you. Hark, is that a collective nodding of heads that I hear? I don't care what you think of what I have to say, just don't make yourself look any more foolish by trying to disagree with that one.
As everyone's "101 Rules Of Being Punk" pocket reference guide says, "one aspect of being punk is defined as: not submissively bowing down to the Man." I believe that the wording there is not quite correct. For those subscribers to the Un-Punk Stupid Idiot Bi-Monthly Journal out there, I think you need to get out your pen and edit that to say: "one aspect of being punk is defined as: not submissively bending over and taking it from behind from the Man." Like it or not that's what is going on, and that my friends is not punk. So go ahead, get out those markers and make the change in your copy, and when you're through go back and highlight it. Twice. Actually while we're at it, I'd like everyone to also add the very important rule that I feel was left out of the final draft of "101 Rules Of Being Punk." I've always been sad that this has been neglected, but that's okay because we're all going to fix it right now. Just find a little room right after the table of contents!
there and in nice big block letters write:
Self-Destruction For The Sake Of Rebellion Is Not Acceptable Within The Punk Ethic
I don't care how many times you've watched Sid And Nancy, Sid Vicious dying by the time he was 22 was not, is not, and never will be cool, nor will be sucking on a cancer stick once, twice, or a dozen times a day. How are you going to 'fight the power' when you can't even run a 100ft without gasping for air, and how the hell are you going to stand up to the Man when He's got you bent over in front of Him? Stop eluding the question and take a stand.
So now that we've established why smoking cigarettes makes one Un-Punk, where does the Idiot part come in? Easy, every single one of you who performs the U.P.S.I. daily ritual already knows this. For god's sakes you're taking it where the sun-don't-shine from the Man day in and day out and continue to do so when you know better. That my friends, makes you a Idiot, plain and simple. And Stupid? Well Stupid is just added for emphasis. Hey it's fun!
Okay then, everyone should be up to date on who exactly wears the Un-Punk Stupid Idiot badge of dishonor, but it shouldn't stop there. I feel it is the moral obligation of people in the punk scene to call attention to our misguided brethren. I want everyone who spots a punk rocker in front of a show or wherever taking up the yoo-hoo from the Man to let them know it. Just walk right up to him/her and say "geez, you're a stupid idiot." The smoker would have absolutely no reason to be upset whatsoever since you are simply relaying to him/her a factual statement. It would be same as walking up to him/her and declaring '1 + 1 = 2', or 'Minor Threat rules', or 'Kevin Finn is always right'. These are simple fundamental statements of truth, evident since the dawn of time. Anyone who disagrees should have their guide books confiscated, their scene points erased, and their membership cards revoked. Nothing more, nothing less.
Kevin Finn
www.kevfinn.com
so there.
Mr. Psycho Tarrant.
Here it is...
I'm sure everyone knows at least one, heck there are probably more than a few reading right now, for, as I'm sorry to say, the punk scene is riddled with far too many Un-Punk Stupid Idiots. Just who is an Un-Punk Stupid Idiot you ask? Well I'm glad you did. Any kid in the punk scene with the wisdom, or lack thereof, to smoke cigarettes may impishly raise there hand and less than proudly declare that they have the qualifications to be a member of the Un-Punk Stupid Idiot Brigade.
Now I'm sure that those out there who play for Team Un-Punk Stupid Idiot are ready to quit reading this right now (which would qualify them for immediate advancement to the Reeeaaally Un-Punk Stupid Idiot division) and that is their right, but I challenge one and all to keep reading and learn for themselves why smoking cigarettes qualifies one immediate membership into the U.P.S.I. Members Only Fan Club.
There has been many (some may say far too many) discussions about what punk is, was, and ultimately should be, but there exists one thing that punk unequivocally is *not*: punk is not about becoming the Man's little love-child. There isn't a soul out there how can put up an argument against that, not even me. Well who or what is the Man exactly? Some have varying opinions, I even tried defining Him more than a year ago, but how's this for a theory? The Man is a bunch of rich, old, white guys who make a product that is more addictive than heroin, lie through their teeth that it is not, market that product to everyone within their reach including children, suck your money away with it every day or your life, and then ultimately kill you. Hark, is that a collective nodding of heads that I hear? I don't care what you think of what I have to say, just don't make yourself look any more foolish by trying to disagree with that one.
As everyone's "101 Rules Of Being Punk" pocket reference guide says, "one aspect of being punk is defined as: not submissively bowing down to the Man." I believe that the wording there is not quite correct. For those subscribers to the Un-Punk Stupid Idiot Bi-Monthly Journal out there, I think you need to get out your pen and edit that to say: "one aspect of being punk is defined as: not submissively bending over and taking it from behind from the Man." Like it or not that's what is going on, and that my friends is not punk. So go ahead, get out those markers and make the change in your copy, and when you're through go back and highlight it. Twice. Actually while we're at it, I'd like everyone to also add the very important rule that I feel was left out of the final draft of "101 Rules Of Being Punk." I've always been sad that this has been neglected, but that's okay because we're all going to fix it right now. Just find a little room right after the table of contents!
there and in nice big block letters write:
Self-Destruction For The Sake Of Rebellion Is Not Acceptable Within The Punk Ethic
I don't care how many times you've watched Sid And Nancy, Sid Vicious dying by the time he was 22 was not, is not, and never will be cool, nor will be sucking on a cancer stick once, twice, or a dozen times a day. How are you going to 'fight the power' when you can't even run a 100ft without gasping for air, and how the hell are you going to stand up to the Man when He's got you bent over in front of Him? Stop eluding the question and take a stand.
So now that we've established why smoking cigarettes makes one Un-Punk, where does the Idiot part come in? Easy, every single one of you who performs the U.P.S.I. daily ritual already knows this. For god's sakes you're taking it where the sun-don't-shine from the Man day in and day out and continue to do so when you know better. That my friends, makes you a Idiot, plain and simple. And Stupid? Well Stupid is just added for emphasis. Hey it's fun!
Okay then, everyone should be up to date on who exactly wears the Un-Punk Stupid Idiot badge of dishonor, but it shouldn't stop there. I feel it is the moral obligation of people in the punk scene to call attention to our misguided brethren. I want everyone who spots a punk rocker in front of a show or wherever taking up the yoo-hoo from the Man to let them know it. Just walk right up to him/her and say "geez, you're a stupid idiot." The smoker would have absolutely no reason to be upset whatsoever since you are simply relaying to him/her a factual statement. It would be same as walking up to him/her and declaring '1 + 1 = 2', or 'Minor Threat rules', or 'Kevin Finn is always right'. These are simple fundamental statements of truth, evident since the dawn of time. Anyone who disagrees should have their guide books confiscated, their scene points erased, and their membership cards revoked. Nothing more, nothing less.
Kevin Finn
www.kevfinn.com
so there.
Mr. Psycho Tarrant.
I would have replied to you last night Tarrant, but my net connection went down, and I couldn't reconnect, cos I can't figure out how to turn down the volume on my new modem, so it would have woken up everyone here (and that would have annoyed them...)
So here is the reply I was going to send you until I got cut off...
So here is the reply I was going to send you until I got cut off...
No, that sucks too!
If you want REAL music, you should listen to some funk!
Note "some" not "all".
Tower of Power, for instance. Despite the phallic imagery, they're soooooooooo funky and soooooooooo happy, they make you want to dance 'n groove your life away and then tell everyone just how good the world is.
Punk - Angry, pah!
Pop- Cheeeeeeeeese! pah!
Indie- Miserable. Pah!
Tower of Power- could kick your a**e! happy!
If you want REAL music, you should listen to some funk!
Note "some" not "all".
Tower of Power, for instance. Despite the phallic imagery, they're soooooooooo funky and soooooooooo happy, they make you want to dance 'n groove your life away and then tell everyone just how good the world is.
Punk - Angry, pah!
Pop- Cheeeeeeeeese! pah!
Indie- Miserable. Pah!
Tower of Power- could kick your a**e! happy!
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