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At GCSE I am currently taking IT, Electronics and Business Studies. I have been thinking of jobs that relate with each subject and looking at the well paid jobs.
So how much do web designers get paid?
So how much do web designers get paid?
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I'm doing GCSEs and starting up a local website design company at the same time with two good friends. It's quite demanding, but good fun and we can usually "get away" with charging ~*10/hr, which is nice. Plus, we're doing what we enjoy.
Working for ourselves as team of three has its difficulties, but the fact that we're all good friends and good at different stuff helps a lot. At least it pays for upgrades to the server box :)
See our (not-yet-actually-finished) site at digital-crocus.com
Working for ourselves as team of three has its difficulties, but the fact that we're all good friends and good at different stuff helps a lot. At least it pays for upgrades to the server box :)
Bob wrote:
> Degrees are very misleading. I recently hired to people. One had a good degree
> and one had a HND but failed the degree top up. The thing was the one with the
> good degree could not handle the work and the one who failed is still working
> for me and doing well. I prefer to look for experiance and personnel projects.
> My advice is design a few sites using PHP, CGI, ASP (if you can) and other
> languages and then potential employers will see that you already know what to
> do. The problem with degrees is they teach you computers and not web
> programming.
I NEED WORK!!! REALLY!!!
> Degrees are very misleading. I recently hired to people. One had a good degree
> and one had a HND but failed the degree top up. The thing was the one with the
> good degree could not handle the work and the one who failed is still working
> for me and doing well. I prefer to look for experiance and personnel projects.
> My advice is design a few sites using PHP, CGI, ASP (if you can) and other
> languages and then potential employers will see that you already know what to
> do. The problem with degrees is they teach you computers and not web
> programming.
I NEED WORK!!! REALLY!!!
I am currently doing a Multimedia Technology course at university and personally I think (hope!?) that it'll improve my chances of getting the choice of job i want at the end of it. The thing with having a "proper" qualification, rather than expericence is that you can always change career and still have something to show (like Slaveunit said).
Experience is always a good thing though, but i'm sure if you're considereing a job as a web designer / programmer then you've got a few personal sites under your belt at least, so have a look round some local firms and try and get some part time work too... you can see if you enjoy doing it for a living then... I've done a few sites for other people and it makes you realise if it's for you or not, and i have been offered full time work too, but i'm concentrating on my degree at the moment.
Also, with studying a general course (like the one i am doing) you actually cover a very broad area. when i started i was looking specifically at becoming a web programmer, but now i'm not so sure, as i now have experience of multimedia, video, graphics, design, music, 3d and games animation. although i know it's not for everyone, it's certainly benifited me.
Experience is always a good thing though, but i'm sure if you're considereing a job as a web designer / programmer then you've got a few personal sites under your belt at least, so have a look round some local firms and try and get some part time work too... you can see if you enjoy doing it for a living then... I've done a few sites for other people and it makes you realise if it's for you or not, and i have been offered full time work too, but i'm concentrating on my degree at the moment.
Also, with studying a general course (like the one i am doing) you actually cover a very broad area. when i started i was looking specifically at becoming a web programmer, but now i'm not so sure, as i now have experience of multimedia, video, graphics, design, music, 3d and games animation. although i know it's not for everyone, it's certainly benifited me.
I already know what I want to do, I'm running my own Computer Solutions company :)
Go into a company, tell them they need this, this and this, tell them it will cost this, install it. And get paid lots of cash :)
As a few of you know I'm a failed :( webdesigner so I'm going into hardware, its much easier!
Go into a company, tell them they need this, this and this, tell them it will cost this, install it. And get paid lots of cash :)
As a few of you know I'm a failed :( webdesigner so I'm going into hardware, its much easier!
Degrees are very misleading. I recently hired to people. One had a good degree and one had a HND but failed the degree top up. The thing was the one with the good degree could not handle the work and the one who failed is still working for me and doing well. I prefer to look for experiance and personnel projects. My advice is design a few sites using PHP, CGI, ASP (if you can) and other languages and then potential employers will see that you already know what to do. The problem with degrees is they teach you computers and not web programming.
A degree rightly or wrongly shows a bit of commitment and the willingness to take your learning a bit further. Employers these days come to expect them. Thats the way it goes. The majority of people I work with have a degree although, like Slave says very few actually in any technical subject!!
The thing about degrees though, is that if you have one, you can automatically expect a higher wage, regardless of wether the degree is in the same field as the work.
Bizarre, but true.
Bizarre, but true.
ajg wrote:
> With work experience, a degree and some example work the average grad wage is between 15-20k these days. (thats now, in a couple of years its likely to change obviously).
Depends on geographical location. As a junior you would start on around 17K (Oxfordshire). In London this can be as high as 20k. I started on 10K over 6 years ago and am now looking at about 25K where I am now... I am concidering going to London where I have been offered a job doing what I do at 45K a year...
All of this wih NO DEGREE and only experience!!
> With work experience, a degree and some example work the average grad wage is between 15-20k these days. (thats now, in a couple of years its likely to change obviously).
Depends on geographical location. As a junior you would start on around 17K (Oxfordshire). In London this can be as high as 20k. I started on 10K over 6 years ago and am now looking at about 25K where I am now... I am concidering going to London where I have been offered a job doing what I do at 45K a year...
All of this wih NO DEGREE and only experience!!
ajg wrote:
> Depends on your experience and qualifications.
> I'd advise getting a degree. I wouldn't normally give someone an interview who was that age and didn't have one (but thats a personal thing). And then lots of good example work shows you're keen.
Why? I didn't need a degree? an as far as I know most of my collegues don't have one either? Having a degree doesn't gurantee a job, experience and a proven comercial and personal portfolio is more important...
> But you've got to think... In a couple of years time who won't have a webpage already. Not everyone is going to be wanting a new website every week.
No, but what about support, development etc etc... most clients re-design their sites every 2 years on average...
> If you were asking me for career advice for I'd think more long-term and think about providing longer term web solutions, rather than just designing them...
I agree... XML and content management is the future, and if you wanted to get really @nal, go for usability expert. The market has learned a lot since the dot com bust and boo and are no onger interested in flash whizzy graphical sites, today is about sticky content, understanding, usablity and user experience...
> Depends on your experience and qualifications.
> I'd advise getting a degree. I wouldn't normally give someone an interview who was that age and didn't have one (but thats a personal thing). And then lots of good example work shows you're keen.
Why? I didn't need a degree? an as far as I know most of my collegues don't have one either? Having a degree doesn't gurantee a job, experience and a proven comercial and personal portfolio is more important...
> But you've got to think... In a couple of years time who won't have a webpage already. Not everyone is going to be wanting a new website every week.
No, but what about support, development etc etc... most clients re-design their sites every 2 years on average...
> If you were asking me for career advice for I'd think more long-term and think about providing longer term web solutions, rather than just designing them...
I agree... XML and content management is the future, and if you wanted to get really @nal, go for usability expert. The market has learned a lot since the dot com bust and boo and are no onger interested in flash whizzy graphical sites, today is about sticky content, understanding, usablity and user experience...
Thanks ajg, I'm gonna need to think hard about this.
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