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ps2's the say that they keep going wrong and keep coming up whith DISK READ ERROR! thats what happend to mine, i got a refrbished one, and then it said when you get a referbished one after 10 months it does the same thing.so i mite get an x-box.
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ps2's the say that they keep going wrong and keep coming up whith DISK READ ERROR! thats what happend to mine, i got a refrbished one, and then it said when you get a referbished one after 10 months it does the same thing.so i mite get an x-box.
Yeah happened with me 3 months AFTER the warranty - kinda p*ssed with this - Surely if this is happening frequently Sony have to do something about it cos it is unfair on us who spend £100 odd quid on the machine and it keeps breaking
N E One Agree?
N E One Agree?
But the lack of reliability is what has been driving the sales for the last two years, how can they change it?
Besides, Sony are working on new consoles now, not much point in going back and fixing old problems. Mainly because for Sony it hasn't been a problem at all.
Heh, and people say Nintendo rip-off their customers. Truth is, all of the manufacturers do to some extent.
Besides, Sony are working on new consoles now, not much point in going back and fixing old problems. Mainly because for Sony it hasn't been a problem at all.
Heh, and people say Nintendo rip-off their customers. Truth is, all of the manufacturers do to some extent.
they also said that sony know what it is that is going wrong but they just cant be bothered to fix'em.
Due to a crap laser isn't it?
Anyway, if it was a Sega machine we wouldn't have this problem. Sega were good enough to avoid producing crap PAL conversions so I bet they would have been fixed this problem when it arose.
Anyway, if it was a Sega machine we wouldn't have this problem. Sega were good enough to avoid producing crap PAL conversions so I bet they would have been fixed this problem when it arose.
Due to a crap laser isn't it?
Anyway, if it was a Sega machine we wouldn't have this problem. Sega were good enough to avoid producing crap PAL conversions so I bet they would have fixed this problem when it arose.
Anyway, if it was a Sega machine we wouldn't have this problem. Sega were good enough to avoid producing crap PAL conversions so I bet they would have fixed this problem when it arose.
I have gone through at least eight PS2 they are a shoddily made console, especially if you compare it to a similarly priced DVD player. The draw feels cheap and insecure.
But in saying that Sony customer services have always been helpful and the four or five times replaced my PS2 with brand new consoles.
But in saying that Sony customer services have always been helpful and the four or five times replaced my PS2 with brand new consoles.
Twiddly wrote:
> But the lack of reliability is what has been driving the sales for the
> last two years, how can they change it?
>
> Besides, Sony are working on new consoles now, not much point in going
> back and fixing old problems. Mainly because for Sony it hasn't been a
> problem at all.
>
> Heh, and people say Nintendo rip-off their customers. Truth is, all of
> the manufacturers do to some extent.
But Ninty are selling the GC for £99.99.
Doesn't sound like a rip-off to me. And their games are considerably cheaper (£5 :D) than the Pee Ess Too or Ex-Box.
> But the lack of reliability is what has been driving the sales for the
> last two years, how can they change it?
>
> Besides, Sony are working on new consoles now, not much point in going
> back and fixing old problems. Mainly because for Sony it hasn't been a
> problem at all.
>
> Heh, and people say Nintendo rip-off their customers. Truth is, all of
> the manufacturers do to some extent.
But Ninty are selling the GC for £99.99.
Doesn't sound like a rip-off to me. And their games are considerably cheaper (£5 :D) than the Pee Ess Too or Ex-Box.
Seasoned Samurai wrote:
> I have gone through at least eight PS2 they are a shoddily made
> console, especially if you compare it to a similarly priced DVD
> player. The draw feels cheap and insecure.
That's complete bollards. The most you've gone through is 3 or 4...
> I have gone through at least eight PS2 they are a shoddily made
> console, especially if you compare it to a similarly priced DVD
> player. The draw feels cheap and insecure.
That's complete bollards. The most you've gone through is 3 or 4...
My launch machine is still working fine, with all its original components. I have no complaints about the PS2 or Sony, and nor do about 40+ million other satisfied customers.
There is an issue with *some* units because of the original plastic laser tracks used, which were later replaced with metal ones.
If you've had a replacement machine which has also gone wrong, this is because Sony usually replace broken machines with refurbished units - not brand new ones.
If, as some of you claim, Sony used deliberately sub-standard components, I think it would be fair to assume that EVERY machine would have failed by now, which clearly is not the case.
From the millions that have been sold, a very low number have actually gone wrong. The figures are higher than competing machines simply because of the number sold.
Assume there have been 2 million faulty PS2s returned. That's a lot, isn't it? But consider that the last sales figure given for PS2 was over 40 million units. That's only 5% of machines, which I think most people would agree is an acceptable level, considering the relatively sensitive nature of the components.
And for the record, my Xbox is on its 2nd HD. Am I in the Xbox forum bemoaning the low quality of the MS console? No.
Because I understand that electronic equipment sometimes fails. Not because it's poorly made, but because it's sensitive equipment.
And I understand that the more of an item that are sold, the more reports there will be of failures. After all, if you don't sell any, people can't complain it doesn't work.
As with all electronics, machines are tested before they leave the manufacturing plant. They work, otherwise they aren't released. If your machine didn't work when you got it home, chances are something has happened during transport - a carton was dropped, fell of a shelf, etc. Possibly it happened at the warehouse of the shop where you bought it - you'd be surprised how things get thrown around.
If it went wrong after a few months, or just out of warranty - tough, you were just unlucky. It's not a conspiracy by Sony, it's just one of those things. Get over it.
And if you've had multiple machines go wrong? I suggest that it's not the machines at all, but something you're doing, even if you're not aware of it.
Keep it dust free. Keep it away from static electricity - don't store it immediately on or under your TV, and don't put it on the carpet when you use it. Don't subject it to shock or constant vibration - keep it away from powerful hi-fi speakers. Don't plug in or remove controllers, memory cards etc. with the power switched on (it tells you that in the manual, but people still do it).
This applies not just to your PS2, but any other consoles too. They are boxes full of sensitive electronic components, and should be treated as such.
There is an issue with *some* units because of the original plastic laser tracks used, which were later replaced with metal ones.
If you've had a replacement machine which has also gone wrong, this is because Sony usually replace broken machines with refurbished units - not brand new ones.
If, as some of you claim, Sony used deliberately sub-standard components, I think it would be fair to assume that EVERY machine would have failed by now, which clearly is not the case.
From the millions that have been sold, a very low number have actually gone wrong. The figures are higher than competing machines simply because of the number sold.
Assume there have been 2 million faulty PS2s returned. That's a lot, isn't it? But consider that the last sales figure given for PS2 was over 40 million units. That's only 5% of machines, which I think most people would agree is an acceptable level, considering the relatively sensitive nature of the components.
And for the record, my Xbox is on its 2nd HD. Am I in the Xbox forum bemoaning the low quality of the MS console? No.
Because I understand that electronic equipment sometimes fails. Not because it's poorly made, but because it's sensitive equipment.
And I understand that the more of an item that are sold, the more reports there will be of failures. After all, if you don't sell any, people can't complain it doesn't work.
As with all electronics, machines are tested before they leave the manufacturing plant. They work, otherwise they aren't released. If your machine didn't work when you got it home, chances are something has happened during transport - a carton was dropped, fell of a shelf, etc. Possibly it happened at the warehouse of the shop where you bought it - you'd be surprised how things get thrown around.
If it went wrong after a few months, or just out of warranty - tough, you were just unlucky. It's not a conspiracy by Sony, it's just one of those things. Get over it.
And if you've had multiple machines go wrong? I suggest that it's not the machines at all, but something you're doing, even if you're not aware of it.
Keep it dust free. Keep it away from static electricity - don't store it immediately on or under your TV, and don't put it on the carpet when you use it. Don't subject it to shock or constant vibration - keep it away from powerful hi-fi speakers. Don't plug in or remove controllers, memory cards etc. with the power switched on (it tells you that in the manual, but people still do it).
This applies not just to your PS2, but any other consoles too. They are boxes full of sensitive electronic components, and should be treated as such.
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