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Mon 22/10/01 at 10:55
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Once more I have been watching the news and reading the papers, and the predominant story has been the anthrax outbreaks in the States.
And once more, I find myself scratching my head and questioning what I am seeing and reading.
Just for me, myself and I, not trying to convince anyone else of the thoughts bouncing round my head, but I want to try and put them into words to see if they make any sense.

It has been mentioned, although not officially confirmed, that these attacks are related to the Sept 11th WTC disasters.
Everyone is looking towards Bin Laden and wagging their finger at him, Bush talking about ìHow we must fight this new war, they may use spores but we are a nation stronger than that. It will take more than a disease to eradicate the American way of life that they despise so muchî
Uh-huh, ok George, whatever is written in front of you mate. (is it just me or can anyone else see his lips move when he reads?).

However, watching CNN this morning before work and they were talking about how the ìCoalitionî has won the air war (The Taliban has no air-capabilities whatsoever anyway, but it does sound nice on the news to say that eh?).
They showed the ìalmost pointless anti-aircraft flak of the Taliban against the might of the Western Allianceî. Basically laughing at how badly-equipped the Taliban are.
And they are right, a rag-tag outfit with weapons bought on the black market and supplied by the USA almost 20 years ago.

Only now we have them behind this Anthrax outbreak in the USA.
A group that has no chemical weaponry ability whatsoever, a few guns and anti-tank emplacements liberated from the Russians, already using outdated gear when they invaded.
So Bin Laden is using biological warfare, despite living in caves?
Why use Anthrax?
Anthrax is not contagious at all.
The only way to be infected is by being exposed to large numbers of spores and the anthrax found in the US attacks belongs to the 'Ames' strain, common to Northwest America.
It was originally isolated in the 1930s and is widely used for laboratory cultures.
If you are committed enough to fly planes into buildings and incur the wrath of the USA, why then send poxy little anthrax letters to people? Why not use something deadlier and more effective if you are waging a chemical war?

And who are the targets of this anthrax attack?
The media system and Democrats. The groups that radical factions inside of the USA, domestic militia groups, always blame for their countryís ills.
All three major TV networks in New York City, the Capitol Hill complex in Washington and a tabloid newspaper company in Florida are now all sites of anthrax infection.
NBC anchorman Tom Brokaw in New York and Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle in Washington were targets, as well as Dan Rather of CNN, but his assistant opens his mail and has contracted a very weak, non-lethal exposure to the disease.
The New York Times, the Washington Post and papers in Florida.
Florida? What the hell is in Florida?
Well, George W Bush Jr has a brother called Jeb, who happens to be Gov of Florida. (It was Jeb that prematurely announced Bushy had won in Florida, causing Al Gore to announce his defeat before things smelt funny and we were then subjected to the most farcical election to ever be seen in the USA).

Anthrax has been used as domestic terrorism long before this sudden outbreak:
Speaking about this recent appearance of anthrax, the Rev. Donald Spitz, spokesman for the violently anti-abortion ìArmy of Godî cheerfully announced that the flood of potentially life-threatening mail "made my day," but he denied having any knowledge of where the letters came from.
It's not the first time abortion providers have dealt with an anthrax scare. According to the National Abortion Federation, there have been at least 80 anthrax threats against providers since 1998, with an epidemic of almost two dozen publicised threats in 1998 and 1999.
This time, a chapter of the Army of God -- the underground antiabortion group in whose name a 20-year crime spree of arson, assassination and bombing has been carried out against abortion providers -- claimed responsibility. "You have been exposed to anthrax," each letter announced. "We are going to kill all of you. From the Army of God, Virginia Dare Chapter."

The right-wing Christian preacher Jerry Falwell (who believes that AIDS is Godís punishment for homosexuals and non-Christians) was on his cable-tv show on September 12th saying that God let the Sept. 11th attacks happen because we are an immoral people, and that the homosexuals and Pro-Choicer's were to blame.
Timothy McVeigh said that he bombed the Oklahoma building because ìof the nazi UK government that wants to take away our rightsî and labelled CNN and CBS as ìpropaganda toolsî.

Eric Rudolph was never called a Terrorist even though he was.
5 years ago, Rudolph was charged in three Atlanta-area bombings, including the 1996 Olympic park bombing in which a woman died. Investigators also suspect he was involved in a January 1998 explosion that killed a police officer and maimed a nurse at the New Woman All Women Health Care clinic in Birmingham, Atlanta.,
Some 200 law enforcement officers soon returned to the woods where Rudolph lived to track him down and question him, but he had disappeared.
In August, James ``Bo'' Gritz, the former Green Beret colonel and leader of the right-wing Patriot Movement, led about 40 volunteers into the woods to try to find Rudolph. They left empty-handed.
The trail has grown steadily cold, and now only a dozen police remain to follow up leads.
``All that's left up here are some investigators,'' said Macon County Deputy Kenny Cope, who knew Rudolph when they were growing up and later helped search for him. ``If they get a hot lead, they can call in the search teams.''

There have been a number of domestic groups waging terrorist war on the USA, militia groups that live in the hills and forests that believe the US government is ìZionisticî and refer to ìNew World Ordersî that seek to induce a police state. Waco, Ruby Ridge and a number of other groups that have ended up in massacres when they decided, rightly or wrongly, to engage the US government with weapons.

Basically, I find it hard to believe that a terrorist organisation across the world living in caves that hijack planes using box-cutters would then decide to wage chemical warfare on the USA, but use a non-contagious disease that emanates from North America.
I find it much more likely that militia groups inside of the US are using the Sept 11th attacks as a perfect cover to start their own little attacks.
Because right now weíre all looking at Afghanistan and quaking with fear at a group with no aeroplanes, no tanks and no other weaponry except outdated ordinance and the fervent belief that they are right.
Mon 22/10/01 at 11:16
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I kind of agree with you there, Goaty. It all seems a bit strange that the group responsible for the WTC would follow it up with such a crap effort. One thing to remember though - Foot and Mouth started out as just a few cows and then it got out of control and led to thousands being culled. Hopefully all this virus stuff is being caught in time.
Mon 22/10/01 at 11:09
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Posts: 14,117
Goatboy wrote:
I find it much more
> likely that militia groups inside of the US are using the Sept 11th attacks as a
> perfect cover to start their own little attacks.
Because right now weíre all
> looking at Afghanistan and quaking with fear at a group with no aeroplanes, no
> tanks and no other weaponry except outdated ordinance and the fervent belief
> that they are right.


To be honest, I'd be more scared of someone with minimal firepower, but who had a "fervant belief that they are right" then someone who has all the missiles in the world, who is just following the orders he is given.

Why?

Becuase the person who madly believes they are correct will kill you with their bare hands if they have to, wheres the one with all th missiles may just think to themselves "Hey, is this right?".

Anyway, on to your main point, what you say does make sense. It reminds me of the Oklahoma bombing, that happened and everyone seemes to scream "It was the Middle East, go and bomb them!" Until Timothy McVeigh (sp?) said "Er, actually it was me."

Using the Sept 11th attacks as cover would make sense for organisations within the US.

Unless as Wookiee ( I think) said a few days ago, Osama Bin Laden is just using Anthrax to test out the US, before he goes in with the heavy stuff.

Either way the news reports are hypocritical, or seem to be anyway. Either the Taliban is a load of nomads with a couple of pea shooters bewtween them - in which case it wouldn't take much to take down the air defences and it's highly unlikely they are causing the Anthrax attacks. Or the Taliban has access to highly sofisticated equipment, and beating them will be harder than they say...
Mon 22/10/01 at 10:55
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Posts: 23,089
Once more I have been watching the news and reading the papers, and the predominant story has been the anthrax outbreaks in the States.
And once more, I find myself scratching my head and questioning what I am seeing and reading.
Just for me, myself and I, not trying to convince anyone else of the thoughts bouncing round my head, but I want to try and put them into words to see if they make any sense.

It has been mentioned, although not officially confirmed, that these attacks are related to the Sept 11th WTC disasters.
Everyone is looking towards Bin Laden and wagging their finger at him, Bush talking about ìHow we must fight this new war, they may use spores but we are a nation stronger than that. It will take more than a disease to eradicate the American way of life that they despise so muchî
Uh-huh, ok George, whatever is written in front of you mate. (is it just me or can anyone else see his lips move when he reads?).

However, watching CNN this morning before work and they were talking about how the ìCoalitionî has won the air war (The Taliban has no air-capabilities whatsoever anyway, but it does sound nice on the news to say that eh?).
They showed the ìalmost pointless anti-aircraft flak of the Taliban against the might of the Western Allianceî. Basically laughing at how badly-equipped the Taliban are.
And they are right, a rag-tag outfit with weapons bought on the black market and supplied by the USA almost 20 years ago.

Only now we have them behind this Anthrax outbreak in the USA.
A group that has no chemical weaponry ability whatsoever, a few guns and anti-tank emplacements liberated from the Russians, already using outdated gear when they invaded.
So Bin Laden is using biological warfare, despite living in caves?
Why use Anthrax?
Anthrax is not contagious at all.
The only way to be infected is by being exposed to large numbers of spores and the anthrax found in the US attacks belongs to the 'Ames' strain, common to Northwest America.
It was originally isolated in the 1930s and is widely used for laboratory cultures.
If you are committed enough to fly planes into buildings and incur the wrath of the USA, why then send poxy little anthrax letters to people? Why not use something deadlier and more effective if you are waging a chemical war?

And who are the targets of this anthrax attack?
The media system and Democrats. The groups that radical factions inside of the USA, domestic militia groups, always blame for their countryís ills.
All three major TV networks in New York City, the Capitol Hill complex in Washington and a tabloid newspaper company in Florida are now all sites of anthrax infection.
NBC anchorman Tom Brokaw in New York and Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle in Washington were targets, as well as Dan Rather of CNN, but his assistant opens his mail and has contracted a very weak, non-lethal exposure to the disease.
The New York Times, the Washington Post and papers in Florida.
Florida? What the hell is in Florida?
Well, George W Bush Jr has a brother called Jeb, who happens to be Gov of Florida. (It was Jeb that prematurely announced Bushy had won in Florida, causing Al Gore to announce his defeat before things smelt funny and we were then subjected to the most farcical election to ever be seen in the USA).

Anthrax has been used as domestic terrorism long before this sudden outbreak:
Speaking about this recent appearance of anthrax, the Rev. Donald Spitz, spokesman for the violently anti-abortion ìArmy of Godî cheerfully announced that the flood of potentially life-threatening mail "made my day," but he denied having any knowledge of where the letters came from.
It's not the first time abortion providers have dealt with an anthrax scare. According to the National Abortion Federation, there have been at least 80 anthrax threats against providers since 1998, with an epidemic of almost two dozen publicised threats in 1998 and 1999.
This time, a chapter of the Army of God -- the underground antiabortion group in whose name a 20-year crime spree of arson, assassination and bombing has been carried out against abortion providers -- claimed responsibility. "You have been exposed to anthrax," each letter announced. "We are going to kill all of you. From the Army of God, Virginia Dare Chapter."

The right-wing Christian preacher Jerry Falwell (who believes that AIDS is Godís punishment for homosexuals and non-Christians) was on his cable-tv show on September 12th saying that God let the Sept. 11th attacks happen because we are an immoral people, and that the homosexuals and Pro-Choicer's were to blame.
Timothy McVeigh said that he bombed the Oklahoma building because ìof the nazi UK government that wants to take away our rightsî and labelled CNN and CBS as ìpropaganda toolsî.

Eric Rudolph was never called a Terrorist even though he was.
5 years ago, Rudolph was charged in three Atlanta-area bombings, including the 1996 Olympic park bombing in which a woman died. Investigators also suspect he was involved in a January 1998 explosion that killed a police officer and maimed a nurse at the New Woman All Women Health Care clinic in Birmingham, Atlanta.,
Some 200 law enforcement officers soon returned to the woods where Rudolph lived to track him down and question him, but he had disappeared.
In August, James ``Bo'' Gritz, the former Green Beret colonel and leader of the right-wing Patriot Movement, led about 40 volunteers into the woods to try to find Rudolph. They left empty-handed.
The trail has grown steadily cold, and now only a dozen police remain to follow up leads.
``All that's left up here are some investigators,'' said Macon County Deputy Kenny Cope, who knew Rudolph when they were growing up and later helped search for him. ``If they get a hot lead, they can call in the search teams.''

There have been a number of domestic groups waging terrorist war on the USA, militia groups that live in the hills and forests that believe the US government is ìZionisticî and refer to ìNew World Ordersî that seek to induce a police state. Waco, Ruby Ridge and a number of other groups that have ended up in massacres when they decided, rightly or wrongly, to engage the US government with weapons.

Basically, I find it hard to believe that a terrorist organisation across the world living in caves that hijack planes using box-cutters would then decide to wage chemical warfare on the USA, but use a non-contagious disease that emanates from North America.
I find it much more likely that militia groups inside of the US are using the Sept 11th attacks as a perfect cover to start their own little attacks.
Because right now weíre all looking at Afghanistan and quaking with fear at a group with no aeroplanes, no tanks and no other weaponry except outdated ordinance and the fervent belief that they are right.

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