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I can't believe this.
I'm watching the news, and they are covering the Afghan situation.
Guess what they're doing?
Only bloody well saying where the troops are, what they are doing, who they're supposed to meet up with etc.
How stupid is that!?!?!
It won't take much of an intelligence to figure out that Afghani people could be watching the news over here, and let the Taliban people know what's going on.
How thick!
I'm watching the news, and they are covering the Afghan situation.
Guess what they're doing?
Only bloody well saying where the troops are, what they are doing, who they're supposed to meet up with etc.
How stupid is that!?!?!
It won't take much of an intelligence to figure out that Afghani people could be watching the news over here, and let the Taliban people know what's going on.
How thick!
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Edwin25 wrote:
>Yes and that is why they are such d'umbasses.
> Who else would be stupid enough to create a weapon >powerful enough to destroy
> all life on earth, let alone give it to every military >force on the
> planet.
The origins of the nuclear weapon lie during World War 2. Back then it was a simple case of the allies developing the atom bomb before the axis. There was no messing around or morality- a simple case of "do it before they do" Many allied/resistance troops gave their lives to hinder german atom bomb development because if germany made it before we did it was endgame- defeat, not a setback but defeat. In the end we destroyed the german project but didnt get all the scientists, the russians got some of them too. Once the russians developed it then the americans had to better it and the Uk had to make the initial discovery of creating the weapon. As for giving it to every military force on the planet, well its the Russians who are guilty on that part - the fall of the USSR has meant much equipment/material being available on the black market in Asia.
>Threatened now? we here in the uk have been
> suffering for years at the hands of the IRA but america >never lifted a finger.
> In fact they let irish people go over to america and buy >guns! Only now that
> terroists are in the spotlight, have they actually >outlawed the IRA in the
> US.
The IRA has never actually shown much interest in killing every single british person there is, unlike Bin Laden and his organisation, they are trying to get the british out of Ireland. Many American presidents have participated in he peace process - a process the british government has pursued for years - and our own security forces have been suited to the task of counter terrorist ops and surveliance/intel gathering. The type of conflict is way different to the Afghanistan one, low level intensity compared to conventional warfare.
>Thats because they are being smart. The reason the arab >world
> hates america is because america backs up jewish military >action. And all this
> bombing will get america and any countries who help in a >military fashion
> attacked again.
>France, Germany and russia are just using their brains >unlike
> america They just continue the circle of violence.
The whole arab world doesnt hate America - just the portions you see on tv protesting. It isnt just about Israel, its because America stands for freedom, with such ideas as letting women actually do what they want, consumerism, peace, justice, not puposely killing civilians - I dont think the Taliban go along with those ideas. Sure Bin LAden would love to have the whole arab world behind him but the northern alliance are proof thats not true even just in Afghanistan. France, Germany and Russia are not directly involved in a way you see on tcv but they are confirmed to be indirectly involved, France and Germany are because of being NATO members. Will we be attacked again ? Maybe, but that is why this war must be carried on boht in Afghanistan and wherever terrorists run to. France has a problem with ETA, Germany with Neo Nazis, Russia with Chechen Rebels, so no nation is free of terrorism.
>And if americans are so
> smart, how the hell did they hit a red cross centre (with >a big red cross on the
> top) by accident?
It wasnt an accident, they believed it held taliban controlled supplies. Anyone can get red paint and do a cross so that alone is not enough to stop an attack. Bitter experience has taught our militaries that the red cross is not always all it seems.
>I've said it before and i'll say it again: America sucks.
And you're allowed to say that because of freedom. Now if you were in Afghanistan or some other "persecuted" country and you said that about the regime then it'd be a different story ! America is about freedom, and we've all had that for a pretty long time without questioning how we got it. Now we know that if we want that freedom then we better be prepared to fight for it, because others will take it from us anyway they can.
>Yes and that is why they are such d'umbasses.
> Who else would be stupid enough to create a weapon >powerful enough to destroy
> all life on earth, let alone give it to every military >force on the
> planet.
The origins of the nuclear weapon lie during World War 2. Back then it was a simple case of the allies developing the atom bomb before the axis. There was no messing around or morality- a simple case of "do it before they do" Many allied/resistance troops gave their lives to hinder german atom bomb development because if germany made it before we did it was endgame- defeat, not a setback but defeat. In the end we destroyed the german project but didnt get all the scientists, the russians got some of them too. Once the russians developed it then the americans had to better it and the Uk had to make the initial discovery of creating the weapon. As for giving it to every military force on the planet, well its the Russians who are guilty on that part - the fall of the USSR has meant much equipment/material being available on the black market in Asia.
>Threatened now? we here in the uk have been
> suffering for years at the hands of the IRA but america >never lifted a finger.
> In fact they let irish people go over to america and buy >guns! Only now that
> terroists are in the spotlight, have they actually >outlawed the IRA in the
> US.
The IRA has never actually shown much interest in killing every single british person there is, unlike Bin Laden and his organisation, they are trying to get the british out of Ireland. Many American presidents have participated in he peace process - a process the british government has pursued for years - and our own security forces have been suited to the task of counter terrorist ops and surveliance/intel gathering. The type of conflict is way different to the Afghanistan one, low level intensity compared to conventional warfare.
>Thats because they are being smart. The reason the arab >world
> hates america is because america backs up jewish military >action. And all this
> bombing will get america and any countries who help in a >military fashion
> attacked again.
>France, Germany and russia are just using their brains >unlike
> america They just continue the circle of violence.
The whole arab world doesnt hate America - just the portions you see on tv protesting. It isnt just about Israel, its because America stands for freedom, with such ideas as letting women actually do what they want, consumerism, peace, justice, not puposely killing civilians - I dont think the Taliban go along with those ideas. Sure Bin LAden would love to have the whole arab world behind him but the northern alliance are proof thats not true even just in Afghanistan. France, Germany and Russia are not directly involved in a way you see on tcv but they are confirmed to be indirectly involved, France and Germany are because of being NATO members. Will we be attacked again ? Maybe, but that is why this war must be carried on boht in Afghanistan and wherever terrorists run to. France has a problem with ETA, Germany with Neo Nazis, Russia with Chechen Rebels, so no nation is free of terrorism.
>And if americans are so
> smart, how the hell did they hit a red cross centre (with >a big red cross on the
> top) by accident?
It wasnt an accident, they believed it held taliban controlled supplies. Anyone can get red paint and do a cross so that alone is not enough to stop an attack. Bitter experience has taught our militaries that the red cross is not always all it seems.
>I've said it before and i'll say it again: America sucks.
And you're allowed to say that because of freedom. Now if you were in Afghanistan or some other "persecuted" country and you said that about the regime then it'd be a different story ! America is about freedom, and we've all had that for a pretty long time without questioning how we got it. Now we know that if we want that freedom then we better be prepared to fight for it, because others will take it from us anyway they can.
Ben Hodgetts wrote:
> yea and those d'umbass americans as you call them have enough weaponary to wipe
> the world out many times over, could wipe england out without a single thought
Yes and that is why they are such d'umbasses. Who else would be stupid enough to create a weapon powerful enough to destroy all life on earth, let alone give it to every military force on the planet.
> oh not to mention they're fighting with the UK for mine, yours and everyones
> right to a free safe democratic world which is being threatened right now.
>
Threatened now? we here in the uk have been suffering for years at the hands of the IRA but america never lifted a finger. In fact they let irish people go over to america and buy guns! Only now that terroists are in the spotlight, have they actually outlawed the IRA in the US.
but i'd like to point something out if this is a GLOBAL fight against
> terrorism why is it only the americans and british are doing any of the
> dangerous stuff. where's the germans, french and russians just to name a few
Thats because they are being smart. The reason the arab world hates america is because america backs up jewish military action. And all this bombing will get america and any countries who help in a military fashion attacked again.
France, Germany and russia are just using their brains unlike america They just continue the circle of violence.
And if americans are so smart, how the hell did they hit a red cross centre (with a big red cross on the top) by accident?
I've said it before and i'll say it again: America sucks.
> yea and those d'umbass americans as you call them have enough weaponary to wipe
> the world out many times over, could wipe england out without a single thought
Yes and that is why they are such d'umbasses. Who else would be stupid enough to create a weapon powerful enough to destroy all life on earth, let alone give it to every military force on the planet.
> oh not to mention they're fighting with the UK for mine, yours and everyones
> right to a free safe democratic world which is being threatened right now.
>
Threatened now? we here in the uk have been suffering for years at the hands of the IRA but america never lifted a finger. In fact they let irish people go over to america and buy guns! Only now that terroists are in the spotlight, have they actually outlawed the IRA in the US.
but i'd like to point something out if this is a GLOBAL fight against
> terrorism why is it only the americans and british are doing any of the
> dangerous stuff. where's the germans, french and russians just to name a few
Thats because they are being smart. The reason the arab world hates america is because america backs up jewish military action. And all this bombing will get america and any countries who help in a military fashion attacked again.
France, Germany and russia are just using their brains unlike america They just continue the circle of violence.
And if americans are so smart, how the hell did they hit a red cross centre (with a big red cross on the top) by accident?
I've said it before and i'll say it again: America sucks.
The taliban, and many of the lesser informed news agencies have the opinion that the coming afghan winter is a block to ground operations. The taliban have even stated today that "harsh weather will defeat the US". They, the taliban, consider themselves to be experts in cold weather warfare, yet past history shows they have shied away from fighting during the winter because their equipment is not up to it. The US has the Rangers, Delta, Seals, Airborne and many others who train for all weather as does the UK with the Paras, SAS mountain troop, SBS arctic troop, Royal Marines and others. I apologise for not making it clear what I meant originally, in hindsight it is rather vague !
Stranger In Paradise wrote:
Theyre making
> a great deal out of the myth the west cant fight in the winter conditions which
> are coming, well I guess they never heard of the cold war
what on earth are you talking about???
Theyre making
> a great deal out of the myth the west cant fight in the winter conditions which
> are coming, well I guess they never heard of the cold war
what on earth are you talking about???
Ben Hodgetts wrote:
> yea and those d'umbass americans as you call them have >enough weaponary to wipe
> the world out many times over, could wipe england out >without a single thought
Technically we could as well, unless someone takes out all 16 submarines and 2 airforce bases simultaneously.
>but i'd like to point something out if this is a GLOBAL >fight against
> terrorism why is it only the americans and british are >doing any of the
> dangerous stuff. where's the germans, french and russians >just to name a few
Theyre all kinda cowering in the shadows afraid to actually do anything, apart from the russians who are supplying intel and persuading other countries to help us out in the area, and the australians who have deployed a fleet to the area-its sailing now. Remember that not everything happens in the glare of the camera, theres far more going on thatn we'll know for sometime.
As to why it is so well publicised what is going on regarding troop actions e.t.c I believe thats psyops. This is us, the west, showing all those wannabe terrorists and any hostiles in Afghanistan that this time we are not going to take this lying down. We're coming for them and nothing is going to stop us this time. Today we've seen a major op in Afghanistan, especially the shot of 3 hercules deploying paratroops. That was a clear demonstration of ability and what the Taliban can expect to face. Theyre making a great deal out of the myth the west cant fight in the winter conditions which are coming, well I guess they never heard of the cold war because both the USA and UK have many manuy reguiments which are all weather, as are our planes and other forces
The other main reason we're so open in the majority of our actions-democracy and freedom, which is in contrst to the regime the Taliban impose.
> yea and those d'umbass americans as you call them have >enough weaponary to wipe
> the world out many times over, could wipe england out >without a single thought
Technically we could as well, unless someone takes out all 16 submarines and 2 airforce bases simultaneously.
>but i'd like to point something out if this is a GLOBAL >fight against
> terrorism why is it only the americans and british are >doing any of the
> dangerous stuff. where's the germans, french and russians >just to name a few
Theyre all kinda cowering in the shadows afraid to actually do anything, apart from the russians who are supplying intel and persuading other countries to help us out in the area, and the australians who have deployed a fleet to the area-its sailing now. Remember that not everything happens in the glare of the camera, theres far more going on thatn we'll know for sometime.
As to why it is so well publicised what is going on regarding troop actions e.t.c I believe thats psyops. This is us, the west, showing all those wannabe terrorists and any hostiles in Afghanistan that this time we are not going to take this lying down. We're coming for them and nothing is going to stop us this time. Today we've seen a major op in Afghanistan, especially the shot of 3 hercules deploying paratroops. That was a clear demonstration of ability and what the Taliban can expect to face. Theyre making a great deal out of the myth the west cant fight in the winter conditions which are coming, well I guess they never heard of the cold war because both the USA and UK have many manuy reguiments which are all weather, as are our planes and other forces
The other main reason we're so open in the majority of our actions-democracy and freedom, which is in contrst to the regime the Taliban impose.
yea and those d'umbass americans as you call them have enough weaponary to wipe the world out many times over, could wipe england out without a single thought oh not to mention they're fighting with the UK for mine, yours and everyones right to a free safe democratic world which is being threatened right now.
but i'd like to point something out if this is a GLOBAL fight against terrorism why is it only the americans and british are doing any of the dangerous stuff. where's the germans, french and russians just to name a few
but i'd like to point something out if this is a GLOBAL fight against terrorism why is it only the americans and british are doing any of the dangerous stuff. where's the germans, french and russians just to name a few
Come, its not like the british media has a collective IQ of over 10.
All news gets dumbed down by 'd'umbass american syndrome'
anyway.
All news gets dumbed down by 'd'umbass american syndrome'
anyway.
Yeah, happens all the time. The news said the other day that the government would be freezing all terrorist bank accounts in a week.
I can't believe this.
I'm watching the news, and they are covering the Afghan situation.
Guess what they're doing?
Only bloody well saying where the troops are, what they are doing, who they're supposed to meet up with etc.
How stupid is that!?!?!
It won't take much of an intelligence to figure out that Afghani people could be watching the news over here, and let the Taliban people know what's going on.
How thick!
I'm watching the news, and they are covering the Afghan situation.
Guess what they're doing?
Only bloody well saying where the troops are, what they are doing, who they're supposed to meet up with etc.
How stupid is that!?!?!
It won't take much of an intelligence to figure out that Afghani people could be watching the news over here, and let the Taliban people know what's going on.
How thick!
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