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Thu 18/10/01 at 13:45
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Sorry, but he is.
Poncy, overlong and dull movies for highbrow movie-posers to scratch their Spielberg beards to and say "Hmm, the imagery used to suggest the duality of our nature is brilliant, and the underlying themes of alienation are just perfect", whilst the rest of us sit there and think "This sucks, I could have watched American Pie 2"

2001:
The monkey bits are cool, but then it gets boring for ages in space and the ending is pure bollards. "Ah but it's left for your own interpretation". Yeah, whatever

Strangelove:
Peter Sellers is cool, and "You can't fight in there, this is the war room" is a good line, but c'mon..it's pants

The Shining:
This is actually not bad, which led me to believe that Kubrick didn't make this one really. Jack Nicholson is good, but he's just doing Jack Nicholson.
And, it's just not scary.

Full Metal Jacket:
The training camp is cool, but then it just turns into that old tv series about 'Nam that I can't remember the name of.
(Amusing fact: Private Pyle, the fat mental one is the guy in Men in Black that turns into the massive bug)

Barry Lyndon:
My head exploded waiting for something to happen in this one.

Spartacus:
It's alright, Kirk Douglas is cool but Gladiator did this much better

Eyes Wide Shut:
Awful, awful waste of 9hours. Tom and Mrs Tom go to a party and she says "I thoight about having that sailor"
Tom gets the hump and wanders about for ages looking confused.
The End.
(You dont see them nekkid that much so dont rent this)

There are others but I can't be bothered to make the effort to remember them.
Because Kubrick sucks.
Fri 19/10/01 at 10:41
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Kubrick is generally over-rated, I've never even manged to sit through half of 2001.

Dr. Strangelove is a fantastic movie though. One of the best.
Fri 19/10/01 at 10:32
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(For Special Edition)


Eyes Wide Shut was a classic example of the power of jealousy overwhelming the pysche of a previously harmonious couple that were experiencing minor problems within the marriage, and Kidman's confession of the though of infidelity was the catalyst for the chain of events that led Cruise to a long dark night of the soul in his exploration of the possibilities of betraying both his own morals and the trust he placed so heavily on his spouse.
Kubrick's minimalist styling and aloof directorial style were indicative of the icy, repressed nature of the main characters and a comment on emotions in general.
You will notice that when they are a happy(ish) couple, both the lighting and genereal composition of the scenes are colourful and warm, but once Cruise embarks on his odyssey, the mood becomes distinctly chilly and un-emotional - to indicate Cruise's removal and detachment from his feelings in his attempts to explore the darker, more sensual aspects of his nature.
From the almost operatic nature of the initial party and the sombre tone of the masked orgy Kubrick is demonstrating the social-dance that must be performed in order to interract with others, whilst the denounement in the toy store at the end indicates that by coming together again as a couple, they have regained a child-like innocence and happiness.

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(For everyone else)

Yep, Eyes Wide Shut smoked the pony alright.
The trailer made it look like you'd see them "doing it", but they didn't.
Nothing happened.
For 2+ hours, nothing happened.
This movie was horrid.
I tried to eat my face so I wouldn't have to watch this movie.
Fri 19/10/01 at 10:17
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Full Metal Jacket had guns. And explosions. Eye's Wide Shut was the only time in my life that I wish the cinema had burned down, with me inside. I actually needed to go to the loo right from the start, but was too scared in case I came back 'glowing' - you know what I mean ;)
Fri 19/10/01 at 09:12
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Goatboy wrote:
Poncy, overlong and dull movies for highbrow movie-posers to
> scratch their Spielberg beards to and say "Hmm, the imagery used to suggest
> the duality of our nature is brilliant, and the underlying themes of alienation
> are just perfect"

And this is why Mr Editions response was so highly amusing.

Yes, "the subtext on Mr Kubrick and his cold, detached style is a masterful metaphor on the alientation of the soul from human conditioning", but his movies still bore the pants of most people that don't hang about the NFT drinking Frappaccuinos and discussing why "Eisenstein's use of Mis-En-Scene in the Odessa steps sequence is the highlight of early cinematic editing technique".

Kubrick's movies are teeth-grindingly dull and exist to give the intelligensia something to stroke their little filmy beards to and feel superior whilst they don't like to read Empire because "it's for kids"

But it's ok Mr Edition, we still love you.
Fri 19/10/01 at 02:11
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Special Edition wrote:
Kubrick is on of the 5 greatest directors ever.

In your opinion, I stated my opinion exactly for people to argue about it, but you're the only one.
Which means you're in the minority.
Which means you're wrong.

To say Kubrick is boring is to
> say Mozart had no talent, picasso had no vision and that this forum is full of
> intelligent, free willed opem minded individuals.

Easy Tiger!
Not everyone thinks the same, I think Kubrick is so far up his own pipe that he lost the plot ages ago.
But that's just what I say, you seem most hostile.

thank you for you valuable
> valuable time, i hope i havent interrupted another viewing of Pearl Harbour or
> The Mexican or even Miss con*****.

This is funny because you're a newbie.
Trust me, you and I are on the same side, I was just trying to see if anyone disagreed.
And only you did.
I know a bit more about film than I let on, I just like to go fishing.
And someone always takes the bait.
Thu 18/10/01 at 23:03
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Clock work Orange was a load of arty weird pap, I enjoyed Full Metal Jacket, but as you said it seemed to loose something in the second half. I thought the Shining was good but not really very scary, the only bit that got me was the two little girls standing in the corridor "we're gonna play with you forever" AHHHHHH nearly soild my pants when I first saw that. As for Eyes Wide Shut, the less said the better.
Thu 18/10/01 at 22:26
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cool name special edtion
Thu 18/10/01 at 20:07
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i would really defend Stanley Kubrick here, but it really is not worth it. you people just clump together dribbling in the direction of Michael Bay films, blabbering the same views without discussion. this should be called an 'agree forum' Kubrick is on of the 5 greatest directors ever. who has surpassed 'pathes of Glory', 'Lolita' 'Dr strangelove' '2001' 'clockwork orange' 'Barry Lyndon'(you were waiting for something to happen, did you not realise what the enire premise of the film was? you bloddy american pie. or maybe you peoplel just havent seen any of these, whilst watching 'American pie 59' over and over again maybe just take a glimpse of genius rather then, over used, re-tred gags which cant even entertain on the most base level. To say Kubrick is boring is to say Mozart had no talent, picasso had no vision and that this forum is full of intelligent, free willed opem minded individuals.

thank you for you valuable valuable time, i hope i havent interrupted another viewing of Pearl Harbour or The Mexican or even Miss con*****.
Thu 18/10/01 at 18:54
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You see the title Kubrick is Boring, you see Goatboy's name as the creator of the topic, you enter to see people agreeing, you grab your gun and.....

Nope, onlu kidding. The Shining was a piece of class work, please don't deny that. But then Full Metal Jacket was awful, I watched that with a friend and looked at the comments on the back. 'Best War Film Ever' ect. Damn I hate hype, not only does it make you think more of the film then before but it also tends to be a load of rubbish anyways.
Thu 18/10/01 at 18:39
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The Clockwork Orange and Spartacus are the only Kubrick's I've seen. They were pretty poor, to be honest. And thank god Kubrick didn't direct AI as intended. Speilburg made a hash of it, and he's a halfway decent director ( though obviously not as good as K Smith, eh Goatboy?).

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