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Read a post-Eł preview of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! on the GameCube, and what's the one bad-point every-single critic has to make about it?
The game's speed.
"It's too slow!" "Too slugish!" "Need" to be faster!" and so on...
But, although it does seem like this new Mario Kart will be slightly slower than we would've expected, since when have the Mario Kart games ever really been that... 'fast'?
Just look about Mario Kart 64, for example...
When I first played that game, I remember thinking it did feel rather sluggish, at times. In comparisson to many other racing games, anyway.
It may have been a little slower, but everyone seemed to love it that extra-bit more than they did with the original game on the SNES - especially in 4-player Battle Mode!
Just as long as we had our red and green shells, we were happy! :)
So, why can't people think the same about Double Dash!! ??
If anything, this game has got to be BETTER than the '64-version, surely?
Better graphics for a start, and new 2-people-per-kart system that offers some interesting new ideas, the same old power-ups and way to go about doing things (and perhaps even some new ones, too?), twice-as-many characters to play as than ever before, and more.
If we've ignored the 'lack-of-speed', then surely it won't bother us this time, either?
And anyway, how would you be able to enjoy ANY Mario Kart game if the karts all raced-around at F-Zero-like speeds?!
That would make it too much like a "standard" racing game - something Mario Kart will never be!
You'd spend too-much time trying to master corners and avoid skidding off the track to actually make good use of and ENJOY the beauty of taking out an opponent with a red of green-coloured shell!
And that's what I think the problem is - racing games today all seem to be about nothing but speed. And with that in mind, people are forced to look at any new Mario Kart game in this way.
Burnout 2, F-Zero, Tube Slider, Need for Speed... The list goes on!
The fact is, `Mario Kart´ games are like no other.
It's not about speed, not about 1st place, it's abou having fun - just like so-many of Nintendo's other top-franchises.
So, I'll be looking forward to this game more than any other 2003 release no matter what the likes of NGC, GamesMaster, IGN or anyone else thinks! :P
The game's speed.
"It's too slow!" "Too slugish!" "Need" to be faster!" and so on...
But, although it does seem like this new Mario Kart will be slightly slower than we would've expected, since when have the Mario Kart games ever really been that... 'fast'?
Just look about Mario Kart 64, for example...
When I first played that game, I remember thinking it did feel rather sluggish, at times. In comparisson to many other racing games, anyway.
It may have been a little slower, but everyone seemed to love it that extra-bit more than they did with the original game on the SNES - especially in 4-player Battle Mode!
Just as long as we had our red and green shells, we were happy! :)
So, why can't people think the same about Double Dash!! ??
If anything, this game has got to be BETTER than the '64-version, surely?
Better graphics for a start, and new 2-people-per-kart system that offers some interesting new ideas, the same old power-ups and way to go about doing things (and perhaps even some new ones, too?), twice-as-many characters to play as than ever before, and more.
If we've ignored the 'lack-of-speed', then surely it won't bother us this time, either?
And anyway, how would you be able to enjoy ANY Mario Kart game if the karts all raced-around at F-Zero-like speeds?!
That would make it too much like a "standard" racing game - something Mario Kart will never be!
You'd spend too-much time trying to master corners and avoid skidding off the track to actually make good use of and ENJOY the beauty of taking out an opponent with a red of green-coloured shell!
And that's what I think the problem is - racing games today all seem to be about nothing but speed. And with that in mind, people are forced to look at any new Mario Kart game in this way.
Burnout 2, F-Zero, Tube Slider, Need for Speed... The list goes on!
The fact is, `Mario Kart´ games are like no other.
It's not about speed, not about 1st place, it's abou having fun - just like so-many of Nintendo's other top-franchises.
So, I'll be looking forward to this game more than any other 2003 release no matter what the likes of NGC, GamesMaster, IGN or anyone else thinks! :P
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The E3 version of Mario Kart was playing at 150cc. That was as fast as it gets.
thing is whoever was saying MK is slow because it WAS slow compared to the other MKs
...since when have go-karts been really fast?? :)
The game has always been stupidly slow on anything but 150cc.
Speed is always a good thing as you the faster you go, the harder it is to master the game. Whats the point in just walking around the track?
Speed is always a good thing as you the faster you go, the harder it is to master the game. Whats the point in just walking around the track?
there's also Riding Spirits and Speed Kings out on the PS2. Road Rash, I remember that from my Megadrive days :)
Dr Duck wrote:
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> That motorbike one, whose name I forget (helpful? :^) ), is incredibly
> slow, of MK standards at least.
Road Rash? Moto Gp 1/2/3?
Moto GP was fast. Road Rash was kinda fast, but it seemed slow as it was 2D. Anyway these people are saying sluggish. This could mean that the handling feels like it takes its time to react, which is what it seems to me, and not 'sense of speed' like you lot keep saying.
>
> That motorbike one, whose name I forget (helpful? :^) ), is incredibly
> slow, of MK standards at least.
Road Rash? Moto Gp 1/2/3?
Moto GP was fast. Road Rash was kinda fast, but it seemed slow as it was 2D. Anyway these people are saying sluggish. This could mean that the handling feels like it takes its time to react, which is what it seems to me, and not 'sense of speed' like you lot keep saying.
I'm not convinced (m)any racing games are that quick really. They just pretend to be.
PGR, GT3, most of the others. They may be quicker than MK, but not by all that much.
That motorbike one, whose name I forget (helpful? :^) ), is incredibly slow, of MK standards at least.
Even Burnout isn't that quick until you're turboing into oncoming traffic (when it *really* is).
PGR, GT3, most of the others. They may be quicker than MK, but not by all that much.
That motorbike one, whose name I forget (helpful? :^) ), is incredibly slow, of MK standards at least.
Even Burnout isn't that quick until you're turboing into oncoming traffic (when it *really* is).
Shocktrooper wrote:
> All I remember was that Nintendo managed to convert Mario Kart 64 from
> NTSC to PAL rather badly, with the result being that us Europeans
> owned a version of the world's greatest driving game that, in terms of
> speed, was inferior to its NTSC version.
> That made me angry somewhat.
>
>
> But if I remember correctly, if you played 3-player on Bowser's
> Castle, it nearly always ran at NTSC speed.
> Anyone else notice that?
Yeah, Bowsers Castle was blisteringly quick on multiplayer...
> All I remember was that Nintendo managed to convert Mario Kart 64 from
> NTSC to PAL rather badly, with the result being that us Europeans
> owned a version of the world's greatest driving game that, in terms of
> speed, was inferior to its NTSC version.
> That made me angry somewhat.
>
>
> But if I remember correctly, if you played 3-player on Bowser's
> Castle, it nearly always ran at NTSC speed.
> Anyone else notice that?
Yeah, Bowsers Castle was blisteringly quick on multiplayer...
cookie monster wrote:
> Super Mario Kart on the SNES is actually quite fast, especially if you
> hold your face about 5 inches from the screen, the corners come up
> faster than you can react.
Wasn't it you that said to me "I risked burning my retina's for you!" when I asked you to check if you could see any crappy lines when using an RGB? ; )
> Super Mario Kart on the SNES is actually quite fast, especially if you
> hold your face about 5 inches from the screen, the corners come up
> faster than you can react.
Wasn't it you that said to me "I risked burning my retina's for you!" when I asked you to check if you could see any crappy lines when using an RGB? ; )
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