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Mon 15/10/01 at 21:14
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One ring to rule them all. One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all; and in the darkness bind them.

Nice little sentence that, but yet that little sentence is a phrase that will be forever remembered in our lives. Being a verse written in the tongue of Mordor, ahem...or at least, to make it simpler- part of a book, that went down as the greatest of the 20th Century. Being the ëforeverí memorable- Lord of the Rings.

The popularity of the characters and setting from the book, never in itís years dwindled.
The amount of detail that existed inside those magical pages, contained enough detail to actually take you to the books setting- ëMiddle Earthí.
Yes, reading the thing can actually ëTakeí you there. Plants, animals, clouds and even sense of smell are so fabulously described.

Details about certain characterís are explained in thorough detail. Histories and lore about the peopleís of Middle Earth go back into centuries.
Pain, emotion, love and hate are intertwined within the actual setting, pace and plot.

And so the inevitable materialised. Yes A film.
It wasnít surprising seeing details emerge of the big screen version. The book(s) were a cult classic. And they contained enough information and detail to bring the world of J.R.R Tolkien to life.
Peter Jackson the Director ot the ëLord of the Ringísí trilogy promises to be as faithful as possible to the Books. New Line Cinema has pumped Millions of Pounds into to the actual production, let alone the publicity and advertising.

So why should people take heed of it and actually be bothered to get off their backsides to see it come this December 19th?. Actually from what screening and pre-publicity shots are to go by Peter Jackson and co are onto a winner.
The Hobbits which appear in the books to be ëLittleí people are computer manipulated in size to be cast on screen.
The effects and affects of that particular computer graphics wizardry, is unbelievable to look at, seeing an actor 5í5î in real life being shrunk and appearing next to normal ëun-manipulatedí actors is amazing and a wonderful achievement.
Thatís not to mention the special effects in general throughout the film.
In the film you will witness thousands of marauding Goblinís and Orcís on screen at once marching to war, seeing that is beyond words to describe, itís that good.
So far from what Iíve seen of the detail of locations and characters is online to what I always imagined them to be. Now that is spectactular to say the least. And is further testament to J.R.R Tolkiens visionary input into his writing- giving the reader his impressions and vision, Peter Jackson has brought it over to the screen well staying faithful as possible to that vision .

And so the forever December 19th looms. I have a feeling that these 3 films will be the greatest ever to be released. Yes, greater than Star Wars. And this is just pre-release thoughts. And more than likely thoughts of millions the world over.

Thanks for reading.
Tue 16/10/01 at 09:38
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Stryke, I agree that Tolkien is good, but in my opinion Goodkind is better.

I just get slightly bored with LotR when I have to keep reading "Bob, son of Neville the Gimp, son of Tarquin the trainspotter." etc etc.

I feel that Goodkind's series is better as it has a more modern feel (obviously, as the two were written many years apart), but it just seems to fit better.

WFR is just magical the first time you read it, I really couldn't put it down at all. That was true for LotR (which I've actually read about 3 times now).
Tue 16/10/01 at 07:56
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I've read Goodkind, and while it is a good series, it obviously draws its influence from Tolkein. JRR's series are the best ever fantasy novels, as Wolfhound said.

Another series anyone might be interested in are Rober Jordan's The Wheel Of Time. It puts a new slant on magic, saying mages, or channellers, can't just cast, they need to weave together element flows.

Hmm, any non-fantasy fan is looking at this post kind of wierdly.
Tue 16/10/01 at 00:28
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"Nasty Fat Hobbit!"
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Your Honour wrote:

If you like the LotR,
> find a series of books by an author called Terry Goodkind
> (www.terrygoodkind.com).

His series of books is better than the LotR series.
> I'm writing a piece about Goodkind and his books at the moment, expect it up in
> a few days, there'll be loads of info in there...

Sorry, I know of him well. But J.R.R Tolkien is the King of Fantasy Sci-Fi.
The Lord of the rings is part of a wider family(or the greater of)of a collection of books connected with each other through land history and people.
Put all these together, for instance, the Hobbitt and Silmarillion and you've got a worthy collection.
LotR is the Father of all fantasy books.
And one that contains unbelievable detail. Which means Peter Jackson of the films has no excuse if he mucks up settings and characteristics.
Mon 15/10/01 at 23:51
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My thoughts....I want to see it!!! Can't wait!
Mon 15/10/01 at 22:34
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In my opiniion the LotR series of books isn't the best ever.

Up until about 18 months ago, I would have said it was, but no more.

If you like the LotR, find a series of books by an author called Terry Goodkind (www.terrygoodkind.com).

His series of books is better than the LotR series. I'm writing a piece about Goodkind and his books at the moment, expect it up in a few days, there'll be loads of info in there...
Mon 15/10/01 at 22:29
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I don't thin Star Wars will be bettered. they are THE classic films. You'd have to go a long way to better them. And while I do think Lord of the Rings is going to be awesome, think about what Star Wars represents.

It was the last of the 'golden age' of great science fiction movies. Film directors see as Star Wars as the definitive turning point in science fiction. From The Return of the Jedi onwards, you are getting into the more gritty, realistic, dangerous sci-fi of the 90's. You get realistic aliens, like in Alien and Independence Day. These are hugely different from the impact of Star Wars, yet they all draw their influence from it.
Lucas created a doctrine. I like Star Wars, but I'm not obsessed with it. Some people are. I read somewhere that Lucas was once advise that he could 'create a religion based on The Force'. Just think about that. A religion, based on a film? It doesn't bear thinking about, comparing the great religons, like Islam or Christianity with some film, does it? I'll leave that to Star Wars fans to deciede.

Lord of The Rings defined the written science-fiction era. All the modern writers perception of fantasy creatures - elfs, dwarfs and so on, are based on Tolkien's world. He created the image of dwarfs as miners, and elfs as tall, slender beings who are haughty. People like me, who enjoy reading fanstasy works like Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time or Terry Pratchett's Discworld, will be able to draw connections from the Middle-Earth novels to this. Tolkein is regarded as THE best author of the twentieth century. That's got to mean something. Is Lucas regarded as the best director of the century? No, he's not. There's a brilliant quote on the back of my LOTR copy, from the Sunday Times :

'The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Hobbit and the Lord of The Rings, and those who are going to read them'.

Now that may be exaggerating, but what does that tell you about the books? A well-respected paper has claimed that this book can span an entire language group. These are hugely different culture groups - English, American, Australian. There was an episode of Friends where Gandalf's name was mentioned, and Joey didn't regonise it. That's got to say something, because the writers of this sublime comedy thought that Gandalf was such a well-known name that the vast majority of the audience would get the joke.

If you look at the books Star Wars has spawned - so many. The X-Wing series, Heir to the Empire and so on. These are not quality books. Be honest here. They may be good for a read on holiday or whatever, but no-ones going to label them quality literature. Why not? Because they dont make an impact. LOTR made an impact.

So what I'm trying to say here is that LOTR made A HUGE impact on the book world, and Star Wars made a HUGE impact on the film world, but these are seperate worlds. You can't be guarenteed success in one because you are successful in the other. It just doesn't work like that. While LOTR may be a great film, it will never be better as a film than as a book, because a) the book came first and b) the film cannot make a huge impact as the book has already made one. You cannot make antoher great impact with the same material.

So both can be seen as great in their own light, but in terms of films, Star Wars came first, made the biggest impact, and will remain the most influential film trilogy in history.
Mon 15/10/01 at 21:14
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"Nasty Fat Hobbit!"
Posts: 1,193
One ring to rule them all. One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all; and in the darkness bind them.

Nice little sentence that, but yet that little sentence is a phrase that will be forever remembered in our lives. Being a verse written in the tongue of Mordor, ahem...or at least, to make it simpler- part of a book, that went down as the greatest of the 20th Century. Being the ëforeverí memorable- Lord of the Rings.

The popularity of the characters and setting from the book, never in itís years dwindled.
The amount of detail that existed inside those magical pages, contained enough detail to actually take you to the books setting- ëMiddle Earthí.
Yes, reading the thing can actually ëTakeí you there. Plants, animals, clouds and even sense of smell are so fabulously described.

Details about certain characterís are explained in thorough detail. Histories and lore about the peopleís of Middle Earth go back into centuries.
Pain, emotion, love and hate are intertwined within the actual setting, pace and plot.

And so the inevitable materialised. Yes A film.
It wasnít surprising seeing details emerge of the big screen version. The book(s) were a cult classic. And they contained enough information and detail to bring the world of J.R.R Tolkien to life.
Peter Jackson the Director ot the ëLord of the Ringísí trilogy promises to be as faithful as possible to the Books. New Line Cinema has pumped Millions of Pounds into to the actual production, let alone the publicity and advertising.

So why should people take heed of it and actually be bothered to get off their backsides to see it come this December 19th?. Actually from what screening and pre-publicity shots are to go by Peter Jackson and co are onto a winner.
The Hobbits which appear in the books to be ëLittleí people are computer manipulated in size to be cast on screen.
The effects and affects of that particular computer graphics wizardry, is unbelievable to look at, seeing an actor 5í5î in real life being shrunk and appearing next to normal ëun-manipulatedí actors is amazing and a wonderful achievement.
Thatís not to mention the special effects in general throughout the film.
In the film you will witness thousands of marauding Goblinís and Orcís on screen at once marching to war, seeing that is beyond words to describe, itís that good.
So far from what Iíve seen of the detail of locations and characters is online to what I always imagined them to be. Now that is spectactular to say the least. And is further testament to J.R.R Tolkiens visionary input into his writing- giving the reader his impressions and vision, Peter Jackson has brought it over to the screen well staying faithful as possible to that vision .

And so the forever December 19th looms. I have a feeling that these 3 films will be the greatest ever to be released. Yes, greater than Star Wars. And this is just pre-release thoughts. And more than likely thoughts of millions the world over.

Thanks for reading.

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