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Mon 15/10/01 at 14:39
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Sequels. What are they? In some cases in the computer games industry, it means a game based on its predecessor and offers an extension to a plot, or in sports games updated stats and the odd new feature. And in other cases, itís a second game to a series which offers more to the plot, or updated stats, but contains lots of extra features, new ideas within the game (often sometimes a whole new engine, completely changing what is capable) and often better graphics. These games also iron out any little problems the games before had. Every week a new sequel is released. The thing is, do we mind?

Itís a game series such a Tomb Raider that give sequels a bad name. Here, the first game was very good indeed, an offered a whole new gaming experience which instantly got every one hooked with Lara Croft. A year after release, the second game came out in the series, again, the game was good and sold millions of copies. By this time, Eidos knew they were on to something big that brought in lots of money. And so there we had it, three more games followed which were equally as boring as each other. Very little was added into each instalment other than a plot change and a new viechle here and there. However, those Lara freaks out there, only interested in one thingÖwell two actually, flocked in there numbers and bought the games. This has been the case for many games, such as the Fifa series. Here, every year all that was bettered were the graphics, updated stats and the odd new power bar. There are also many other games series than these examples.

But not all sequels are like this. Yes it may be a typical example, but the ISS series has always been improved with every new release, with the exception of the ISS 2000 on PS2. Here the game play was always improved, it was always made more realistic with extra features added. The graphics were always improved and stats updated. Not just on PS1, N64 also had a decent ISS over there. The Mario games too always offer something different, and come across many genres from platform games to carting games. But this too had a bad effect. Mario spawned off many games all along the same line, such as Banjo and other Mario games. These were all good, enjoyable games, but were all on the same line, and it was felt, by me anyway, there were too many games along this genre.

Many have critised Sony for being too un-original, and that the console had too many sequels and not enough original games. However, in my opinion, the majority of these games are ones following previous quality games from either PS1, or successful games already released on PS2. Such as the ISS series, known as Pro Evo Soccer, Resident Evil, GTA3,GT 3 Silent Hill 2, MGS 2, Tekken 4, SSX tricky, and more. But looking at these games you can see there is a lot being put into these to make them good, and better than previous games. Being a PS2 owner, I like new, original games, as any one does with there console. But that does not mean I donít want the sequels. I love being able to play a game genre such as GTA improved, and now the new one is in full 3D. Do we really mind having a large number of sequels when they look and play as good as they do? I certainly donít.

But then remember, there are too a lot of original games coming to PS2, DMC, Jack and Dax, Herdy Gerdy, Burnout and many more. We are getting our fair share of originals, as we are sequels, but when the games are this good, does that matter.?

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Mon 15/10/01 at 18:51
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By the way there are some sequels of Pc games that are coming to the PS2 from the Pc which are crap for example Balders Gate Dark Alliance.
Mon 15/10/01 at 18:46
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"WWJD"
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yep it's going to be great
Mon 15/10/01 at 18:41
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I saw FIFA 2002 on Cybernet yesterday!! I must say it looks great - They really have spent time sorting out the gameplay and it looks a lot better than previous FIFA's!!
I have Pro Evolution on order but I may be tempted to get this aswell!! Should be some fixture around christmas time!!
Mon 15/10/01 at 18:39
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I'm not a fan of TR games because I find them too difficult and time consuming.
Mon 15/10/01 at 18:38
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no way they get better and better more realistic every time can't wait to play on Fifa 2002
Mon 15/10/01 at 18:37
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Im a great fan of the Tomb Raider games - I have all five plus the two GBC ones!!
Mon 15/10/01 at 18:34
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Pro Evo wrote:
>Some sequels, it
> seems, can be real let downs.

Yeah especially the Fifa series.
Mon 15/10/01 at 18:17
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Very good point there.

But how do you decide what sequels will be average? Personally, and probally the most used method, is based on the first game. If that was good then surely the next will be good too.

Not always the case though. Like the new Championship Manager. The last one was really good, but the new one is pretty much the same with a few new features. It was really hyped to be the best yet, which it is, but there is not enough new. Some sequels, it seems, can be real let downs.
Mon 15/10/01 at 16:00
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What a console really needs is a a balance.

Sequels and clones are good to an extent so long as they make a noticable improvement on the original.

I think that 3 games in a series per system should be the absolute limit, and that there should be at least a year and a half gap inbetween releases.

Too many sequels too soon waters down the effect.
Look at Tombraider and Crash. There was a new game being released every year with not enough improvements.

Look at the likes of Perfect Dark and Metal Gear Solid 2.
Long awaited sequels to first class games.
They are also the first sequel.
You can see why games like these two are much more highly anticipated than your average sequel.

Sequels are good so long as they're done right, and not over milked or overhyped.
Mon 15/10/01 at 15:22
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Well, we get a year off from Tomb Raider this year... and have to wait for TR: Next Gen.

I like all of the games, but it has got pretty stale. The next version will need to be pretty special.

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