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Our house is going LAN!
Nothing to spectacular, just a desktop and one or two laptops going into a peer-to-peer join up.
I'll be needing a 4 port hub (we've agreed that 4 ports is enough), some ethernet cables and a network card (the desktop is fairly old).
That's simple enough, but then we want to link it all into ADSL.
That'll require a Router and a connection ISP.
Firstly, because the broadband connection will be channelled through the router, the built in firewall ought to protect the entire network from hackers, right?
Secondly, could anyone recommend a good ISP and a Router (both being Xbox-live compatable)?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanksyou. :-)
Mum and Dad are only looking into it for now, but if they go ahead then I'll be seriously considering getting an Xbox, especially with Halo 2 and Conker going Live.
Nothing to spectacular, just a desktop and one or two laptops going into a peer-to-peer join up.
I'll be needing a 4 port hub (we've agreed that 4 ports is enough), some ethernet cables and a network card (the desktop is fairly old).
That's simple enough, but then we want to link it all into ADSL.
That'll require a Router and a connection ISP.
Firstly, because the broadband connection will be channelled through the router, the built in firewall ought to protect the entire network from hackers, right?
Secondly, could anyone recommend a good ISP and a Router (both being Xbox-live compatable)?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanksyou. :-)
Mum and Dad are only looking into it for now, but if they go ahead then I'll be seriously considering getting an Xbox, especially with Halo 2 and Conker going Live.
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Yeah.
A £10 ethernet cable or a £100 wireless device?
The question was more out of interest than as a practical option.
By the by, while I was looking at the various products, I saw that the newer ones were improved running at 22 Mbs while the NEWEST one had a potential of 54 Mbps, so the technology is improving.
New fads are always rediculously expensive at first.
I reckon it'll be a viable option within the next 5-10 years.
A £10 ethernet cable or a £100 wireless device?
The question was more out of interest than as a practical option.
By the by, while I was looking at the various products, I saw that the newer ones were improved running at 22 Mbs while the NEWEST one had a potential of 54 Mbps, so the technology is improving.
New fads are always rediculously expensive at first.
I reckon it'll be a viable option within the next 5-10 years.
Wireless networks cost more and have worse performance.
Work it out.
Work it out.
Strafex wrote:
> Just popping this for my own reference.
>
> By the by, has anyone tried a wireless network?
> If so, do they cost a bloody fortune like they look like in
> catalogues, or is there a cheaper way.
>
>
> Also, how effective are they?
>
> Do they worked faster than wire?
> Are the reliable?
> ANy interference problems?
> Do all the devices have to be in the same room or the internet
> connection downstairs be wireless transmitted to my bedroom?
>
> If you know... :-)
Wireless works at 11mbps I think and ethernet is at 100mbps. If your only wanting to share internet then its fast enough but for big file tranfers your going to suffer. Also the speed descreases further away you go. My friend has one for his laptop and it works well for him. He can go pretty much anywhere in the house and have it work. Another friend had one but it would only work downstairs, so he couldnt share the internet into his room.
> Just popping this for my own reference.
>
> By the by, has anyone tried a wireless network?
> If so, do they cost a bloody fortune like they look like in
> catalogues, or is there a cheaper way.
>
>
> Also, how effective are they?
>
> Do they worked faster than wire?
> Are the reliable?
> ANy interference problems?
> Do all the devices have to be in the same room or the internet
> connection downstairs be wireless transmitted to my bedroom?
>
> If you know... :-)
Wireless works at 11mbps I think and ethernet is at 100mbps. If your only wanting to share internet then its fast enough but for big file tranfers your going to suffer. Also the speed descreases further away you go. My friend has one for his laptop and it works well for him. He can go pretty much anywhere in the house and have it work. Another friend had one but it would only work downstairs, so he couldnt share the internet into his room.
Just popping this for my own reference.
By the by, has anyone tried a wireless network?
If so, do they cost a bloody fortune like they look like in catalogues, or is there a cheaper way.
Also, how effective are they?
Do they worked faster than wire?
Are the reliable?
ANy interference problems?
Do all the devices have to be in the same room or the internet connection downstairs be wireless transmitted to my bedroom?
If you know... :-)
By the by, has anyone tried a wireless network?
If so, do they cost a bloody fortune like they look like in catalogues, or is there a cheaper way.
Also, how effective are they?
Do they worked faster than wire?
Are the reliable?
ANy interference problems?
Do all the devices have to be in the same room or the internet connection downstairs be wireless transmitted to my bedroom?
If you know... :-)
Strafex wrote:
> Practical Magic, heard you talk about that Router before (it doesn't
> matter that it only has one ethernet socket because it's going
> straight into a hub). Sounds good, but how much did it cost you?
From PC World - a real store not the site - it cost £99.99, comes with two year guarantee and Zoom, unlike many manufacturers like US Robotics, have a UK tech support number. It's the Zoom X4 ADSL Modem/Router.
Good thing is that you can connect it to the PC with USB - so no new cards for the PC as long as you have USB - and to the Xbox with the ethernet cable. The box includes cables but depending on your setup they might not be long enough, but at the worst you'll only have to buy RJ11 cable - this is grey and connects the modem to the ADSL Filter plugged into the telephone socket, and an RJ45 Straight Through CAT5 cable to connect the Xbox to the modem/router. If you don't know what these are then wait til you get a modem and go to a shop with the cables which aren't long enough so the staff can see what you need.
The manual with it tells you, clearly, everything you need to do to set it up and it's stupidly easy. All the info you will need is in a table in the book, and your ISP username and password. Although the router/modem is not listed on Xbox Live's site in the combined ADSL Modem/Router category, it is 100% comaptible and the box has a sticker on it saying it is.
Previously I'd had the supposedly compatible US Robotics Sureconnect 9003 Modem/Router and it was crap, and had a small meltdown within half an hour of use......and it cost £114.99.
> Practical Magic, heard you talk about that Router before (it doesn't
> matter that it only has one ethernet socket because it's going
> straight into a hub). Sounds good, but how much did it cost you?
From PC World - a real store not the site - it cost £99.99, comes with two year guarantee and Zoom, unlike many manufacturers like US Robotics, have a UK tech support number. It's the Zoom X4 ADSL Modem/Router.
Good thing is that you can connect it to the PC with USB - so no new cards for the PC as long as you have USB - and to the Xbox with the ethernet cable. The box includes cables but depending on your setup they might not be long enough, but at the worst you'll only have to buy RJ11 cable - this is grey and connects the modem to the ADSL Filter plugged into the telephone socket, and an RJ45 Straight Through CAT5 cable to connect the Xbox to the modem/router. If you don't know what these are then wait til you get a modem and go to a shop with the cables which aren't long enough so the staff can see what you need.
The manual with it tells you, clearly, everything you need to do to set it up and it's stupidly easy. All the info you will need is in a table in the book, and your ISP username and password. Although the router/modem is not listed on Xbox Live's site in the combined ADSL Modem/Router category, it is 100% comaptible and the box has a sticker on it saying it is.
Previously I'd had the supposedly compatible US Robotics Sureconnect 9003 Modem/Router and it was crap, and had a small meltdown within half an hour of use......and it cost £114.99.
Seeing as your computers will be plugged into the hub you won't need the type of router I mentioned earlier.
As along as it's an 10/100 ADSL router with a firewall it will be fine.
As along as it's an 10/100 ADSL router with a firewall it will be fine.
Yeah, that Diagram looks pretty much like what I had in mind.
Thanks WS.
I can get cheap Ethernet cables from school (they buy this big reel of cable and can cut wires as they please) but the tip for the Hub and Network Card should come in handy.
Practical Magic, heard you talk about that Router before (it doesn't matter that it only has one ethernet socket because it's going straight into a hub). Sounds good, but how much did it cost you?
Thanks WS.
I can get cheap Ethernet cables from school (they buy this big reel of cable and can cut wires as they please) but the tip for the Hub and Network Card should come in handy.
Practical Magic, heard you talk about that Router before (it doesn't matter that it only has one ethernet socket because it's going straight into a hub). Sounds good, but how much did it cost you?
Xbox connection is by Ethernet - straight through CAT 5 cable.
I used the new Zoom x4 Modem/Router from the devil of computing, PC World, and it work's a treat with the Xbox and the PC. It only has one USB and one Ethernet port though so no good for using with many PCs, but I'd recommend it over the ICS option - what I used to have. Performace, on both systems, is way up, plus the firewall and software are nice too.
I used the new Zoom x4 Modem/Router from the devil of computing, PC World, and it work's a treat with the Xbox and the PC. It only has one USB and one Ethernet port though so no good for using with many PCs, but I'd recommend it over the ICS option - what I used to have. Performace, on both systems, is way up, plus the firewall and software are nice too.
Made a crappy diagram for you.
http://www.geocities.com/whitestripes15/network.JPG
And yes, the router has a firewall etc.
http://www.geocities.com/whitestripes15/network.JPG
And yes, the router has a firewall etc.
Eh
Forgot about your switch/hub.
It's the same thing, get a netgear one from overclockers.
You should see how it will work from the first post, just plug the computers/Xbox into the hub, and plug the hub into the router.
If that's how you want to do it.
Forgot about your switch/hub.
It's the same thing, get a netgear one from overclockers.
You should see how it will work from the first post, just plug the computers/Xbox into the hub, and plug the hub into the router.
If that's how you want to do it.
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