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Wed 10/10/01 at 23:37
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What is the gaming world coming to? Is it perhaps losing respect for itself? I don't know, but what I saw today brought a tear to my eye and a pain to my heart.

"Frogger" coming soon to a PS2 and X-Box(tbc) near you, soon. What? Why?
Who is given the right to make decisions like this and by whom?

Perhaps gaming history isn't as important to some people as it is others, but in my opinion there are some things you just don't touch. As gaming becomes more influetial, surely the importance of its history is also increased. All this game does is confuse those who are new to the gaming world and begin to bury the thing its set out to preserve.

Ok, I'll be the first to admit that there are arguments for the "re-hashing" of old titles.
Mario for instance, started out as a simple 2-D platformer, then became a slightly more advanced 2-D platformer with improved graphics, then made the transition to a 3-D platformer with great graphics. That kind of development makes sense.
It's the same with Zelda; it stared out as a simple RPG and developed in an understandable way to the supreme incarnation we saw on the N64 and will continue on to the GameCube. Clearly with Shigeru Miyamoto at the helm, things can be trusted to make sense.

However, "Frogger" started out life as a simple yet addictive game about a frog trying to cross a road. It was great, hop the little frog from the bottom of the screen to the top and avoid the traffic, etc. on the way. It has stood as an amazing landmark back in the depths of gaming history for a long time. I would have expected it to last in our minds in its pure and simple form like all the other greats that even todays youth know; Pong, Space invaders, Asteroids, etc.

But no, they've turned it into an "action-adventure" game. Instead of being an average frog, trying to get to a pond in as straight a line as possible; you now play as "Frogger" the bi-pedal frog with a cheesy smile and a ruck sack.
That kind of transition is just wrong! Frogger wasn't an action adventure game it had nothing in common with this genre. Now the kids are going to attribute the name "Frogger" to a stupid smiley face on a quest for whatever with only a bag as an accomplice.

Its like bringing the "next generation" Tetris title into the flight-sim genre. Surely that would never be allowed! Why? Because that flying has nothing to do with Tetris!

Why on earth they couldn't have given this frog a different name and left "Frogger" to the fame it has already established is beyond me.
Instead of bringing "Frogger" into the new millenium they've butchered a classic!
Thu 11/10/01 at 13:40
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Exactly! I'm not suggesting it be a compulsery class, but those interested in computer games should be able to learn about the history of it, Plus, what with most of the old games still being around they could get hands on experience of the games and read about how popular they were and such.
Then the little tykes would appreciate just how far the gaming world has come in a few short years!!!!

(and practical lessons would be brilliant!!! Just sit and play games all lesson)
Thu 11/10/01 at 13:17
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Now that's one lesson I wouldn't of minded sitting though!
Thu 11/10/01 at 13:15
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

But you're right, it won't be long :-(

Something has to be done, some kind of protection for these classics.
Also, they should start teaching "Computer games history" in schools!
Thu 11/10/01 at 12:50
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Sadly, I'm not too amazed by this. Every other section of the entertainment industry drags classics back and remakes them - more often than not to the disgust of most fans. I don't see the games market being any different.

Stand by for Jet Set Willy World, Skool Daze; The New Class and Chuckie Egg 3D.

*Sighs*
Thu 11/10/01 at 12:36
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They should have called it: "Frogger's Adventures In Traffic Jam Land".
Thu 11/10/01 at 12:32
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Not really, yes I have noticed it because "Frogger"s name was used, but I try to keep my finger on the pulse of the gaming world anyway.
Spyro the dragon for instance, that was new and I noticed that, so if they'd called the new "Frogger", "Frog Quest" or "Cheesy Smiley Wandering Rucksack Frog" I would have probably noticed it anyway!

The fact that it has soiled the good name of "Frogger" has me completely against buying it! So while it has been noticed it may not serve to push sales figures up at all!

Boycott new "frogger"!!!!!!!!!
Thu 11/10/01 at 09:16
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I agree. Frogger was a game that worked perfectly in its original 2D form. But now to give a new 3D adventure the name "Frogger" just because there's a frog in it is disrespectful to the old classic.
But then again, if this new game wasn't called "Frogger", would you have noticed it. It would have been released only to disappear without trace. This way they can raise it's profile. Still unfortunate mind.
Thu 11/10/01 at 00:12
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Its horrible, gaming heritage buried by idiots.

The new "Frogger" maybe a fantastic action-adventure, but it shouldn't bare the name of "Frogger"!!!!!!
Wed 10/10/01 at 23:59
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Bomberman perfect example, they ruined it sadly.
Wed 10/10/01 at 23:37
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What is the gaming world coming to? Is it perhaps losing respect for itself? I don't know, but what I saw today brought a tear to my eye and a pain to my heart.

"Frogger" coming soon to a PS2 and X-Box(tbc) near you, soon. What? Why?
Who is given the right to make decisions like this and by whom?

Perhaps gaming history isn't as important to some people as it is others, but in my opinion there are some things you just don't touch. As gaming becomes more influetial, surely the importance of its history is also increased. All this game does is confuse those who are new to the gaming world and begin to bury the thing its set out to preserve.

Ok, I'll be the first to admit that there are arguments for the "re-hashing" of old titles.
Mario for instance, started out as a simple 2-D platformer, then became a slightly more advanced 2-D platformer with improved graphics, then made the transition to a 3-D platformer with great graphics. That kind of development makes sense.
It's the same with Zelda; it stared out as a simple RPG and developed in an understandable way to the supreme incarnation we saw on the N64 and will continue on to the GameCube. Clearly with Shigeru Miyamoto at the helm, things can be trusted to make sense.

However, "Frogger" started out life as a simple yet addictive game about a frog trying to cross a road. It was great, hop the little frog from the bottom of the screen to the top and avoid the traffic, etc. on the way. It has stood as an amazing landmark back in the depths of gaming history for a long time. I would have expected it to last in our minds in its pure and simple form like all the other greats that even todays youth know; Pong, Space invaders, Asteroids, etc.

But no, they've turned it into an "action-adventure" game. Instead of being an average frog, trying to get to a pond in as straight a line as possible; you now play as "Frogger" the bi-pedal frog with a cheesy smile and a ruck sack.
That kind of transition is just wrong! Frogger wasn't an action adventure game it had nothing in common with this genre. Now the kids are going to attribute the name "Frogger" to a stupid smiley face on a quest for whatever with only a bag as an accomplice.

Its like bringing the "next generation" Tetris title into the flight-sim genre. Surely that would never be allowed! Why? Because that flying has nothing to do with Tetris!

Why on earth they couldn't have given this frog a different name and left "Frogger" to the fame it has already established is beyond me.
Instead of bringing "Frogger" into the new millenium they've butchered a classic!

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