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Tue 02/10/01 at 14:34
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Earlier today, whilst scanning the many excellent posts spread across the PS2 forum, I came across an interesting comment from a fellow poster. He/she suggested that I would enjoy a world where all console manufacturers worked together to create one console, rather than competing against eachother. This brought up an interesting point - Who should be having the war? The console manufacturers, or us (the fans/consumers)?

Quite honestly, the comment made earlier today was innacurate, as I believe that the competition between different manufacturers is very healthy. It keeps them all on their toes - if Nintendo makes a game of high quality, then Sony needs to do the same to keep its user base healthy, and vice versa. At present, Sony`s rivals are probably looking for something to rival Metal Gear Solid 2 in terms of hype and of course, quality.

If Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony combined forces, then obviously there would be benefits to the alliance, including a more varied knowledge of game production which would lead to a far more diverse selection of games. However, it would also lead to over confidence, and the alliance would begin to produce games of a lesser quality, with smaller production costs (To make more money whilst spending less themselves). This would certianly not be a good thing, and this alone outweighs the positive points that would come from such an alliance.

The competition between the console giants may be healthy, but that doesn`t apply to the fan base as well. Every person here is biased in one direction or another. Personally, I own an N64 as well as my Playstation, but that hasn`t stopped me being biased towards Sony (though I try to keep it to a minimum of course).

Our varying points of view lead to the famous "Console Wars" topics, and typical statements such as "my games better than yours" or "my console ...". Its pointless, especially as the "goodness" of a game usually depends on the user - for example Mario games, Zeldas, and other younger generation "cutesy" games are wasted on me, whether they are good games or not. Even Goldeneye was a little like looking through a soft focus when compared to the crisp realism of the Resident Evil series. When it comes to more adult games, admittedly containing violence and destruction (I try not to let it influence my personality) it may be that I think a less good game is actually a really worthwhile buy. Its all down to your personal preferences.

I totally disagree with the fans of particular consoles fighting it out. You buy a console in the hope that it will produce lots of games YOU like, it doesn`t matter what anybody else thinks (except perhaps your mother if it contains adult content). I chose PS2 partly because I loved the kind of games on the original Playstation - the fast pace of futuristic racers like Wipeout 2097, the brutal forces used in Tekken, the extreme realism of Gran Turismo, and the super smooth stealth involved in Metal Gear Solid. I also chose PS2 because I`d read lots of articles, and seen lots of pictures about games that were going to appear on the machine, such as SSX (the titles that brought the most quality to the PS2 launch), Gran Turismo 3, and of course Metal Gear Solid 2.

I`ll choose what I think is the best. You choose what you think is the best, and then lets accept that we`re all happy, and not criticise eachothers choices.
Tue 02/10/01 at 15:24
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yes but their consoles that they made were genius
they last for ages and always have good functions
e.g memory managment on saturn compared to psx
also they make amazing games
Tue 02/10/01 at 15:24
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that'll be it!
Tue 02/10/01 at 15:22
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"Back from the dead!"
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Possibly because Sega don't make consoles anymore?
Tue 02/10/01 at 15:09
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hey! you forgot sega in your little mega company/console thingymajig
Tue 02/10/01 at 15:01
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Posts: 6,702
Good point Res, but I think that`s because each DVD player plays the same stuff (excluding regional differences) the only difference is the quality.

With consoles, its quality, and also the different games altogether.
Tue 02/10/01 at 14:56
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"Back For Good"
Posts: 3,673
It's weird isn't it, If 2 different people but 2 different DVD players do they argue, nope!!

If 2 people but 2 different consoles it'll end in bruises :-D
Tue 02/10/01 at 14:53
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Posts: 116
I think people need reassurance that they've bought the right machine.

That's why people keep on bickering about which console is best.

I can't see all three next gen consoles surviving the wars.

I think PS2 will be the winner due to there awesome Christmas line up...

But I would say that owning a PS2 wouldn't I?
Tue 02/10/01 at 14:48
Posts: 0
Take that!!!

*Leaps at ssxpro and attacks him with an electric fan. ssxpro, being whapped in the nose by rubber fan blades explains to Tarrant that he's possibly got the wrong end of the stick. Tarrant apologises and then cracks ssxpro in the face with a PS2. "Wrong again" says ssxpro. Normal conversation resumes*
Tue 02/10/01 at 14:34
Regular
Posts: 6,702
Earlier today, whilst scanning the many excellent posts spread across the PS2 forum, I came across an interesting comment from a fellow poster. He/she suggested that I would enjoy a world where all console manufacturers worked together to create one console, rather than competing against eachother. This brought up an interesting point - Who should be having the war? The console manufacturers, or us (the fans/consumers)?

Quite honestly, the comment made earlier today was innacurate, as I believe that the competition between different manufacturers is very healthy. It keeps them all on their toes - if Nintendo makes a game of high quality, then Sony needs to do the same to keep its user base healthy, and vice versa. At present, Sony`s rivals are probably looking for something to rival Metal Gear Solid 2 in terms of hype and of course, quality.

If Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony combined forces, then obviously there would be benefits to the alliance, including a more varied knowledge of game production which would lead to a far more diverse selection of games. However, it would also lead to over confidence, and the alliance would begin to produce games of a lesser quality, with smaller production costs (To make more money whilst spending less themselves). This would certianly not be a good thing, and this alone outweighs the positive points that would come from such an alliance.

The competition between the console giants may be healthy, but that doesn`t apply to the fan base as well. Every person here is biased in one direction or another. Personally, I own an N64 as well as my Playstation, but that hasn`t stopped me being biased towards Sony (though I try to keep it to a minimum of course).

Our varying points of view lead to the famous "Console Wars" topics, and typical statements such as "my games better than yours" or "my console ...". Its pointless, especially as the "goodness" of a game usually depends on the user - for example Mario games, Zeldas, and other younger generation "cutesy" games are wasted on me, whether they are good games or not. Even Goldeneye was a little like looking through a soft focus when compared to the crisp realism of the Resident Evil series. When it comes to more adult games, admittedly containing violence and destruction (I try not to let it influence my personality) it may be that I think a less good game is actually a really worthwhile buy. Its all down to your personal preferences.

I totally disagree with the fans of particular consoles fighting it out. You buy a console in the hope that it will produce lots of games YOU like, it doesn`t matter what anybody else thinks (except perhaps your mother if it contains adult content). I chose PS2 partly because I loved the kind of games on the original Playstation - the fast pace of futuristic racers like Wipeout 2097, the brutal forces used in Tekken, the extreme realism of Gran Turismo, and the super smooth stealth involved in Metal Gear Solid. I also chose PS2 because I`d read lots of articles, and seen lots of pictures about games that were going to appear on the machine, such as SSX (the titles that brought the most quality to the PS2 launch), Gran Turismo 3, and of course Metal Gear Solid 2.

I`ll choose what I think is the best. You choose what you think is the best, and then lets accept that we`re all happy, and not criticise eachothers choices.

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