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> it comes out in november doesnt include damage, or online play.
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Wrong twice.
It's due out April 2004 here, and does include online play.
> USA release is touted as November this year, coinciding with the
> release of the new logitech wheel. The rumours were that the PAL
> version would be the first out this time.
I can't see any reason why Polyphony wouldn't want to release GT4 in Japan first, there is no way you will be able to buy it here officially in 4 months, your dreaming with that one unfortunately.
Even gamespot.com have it down for 2004 and they are always optimistic with their release dates.
"doesnt include online play."
I think you might be wrong on that one.....