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""kiddie" games. Harumph!"

I have seen many references to "kiddie" games. People say that nintendo have too many "kiddie" games but how do you classify a kiddie game?

To call a game "kiddie" is simple but when you think about you will relise that many games that are refered to as being "kiddie" are not.

Just because a game has brighter colours or cartoon like characters doesn't mean its designed for young children.

CBFD is definatly not a kiddie game. Also many games that look cartoony have much deeper levels.

Super smash Bros is a good example. It has some simple gameplay for younger children but there are many more complex moves for people of all ages to play with. There are secret characters and levels. I still enjoy playing it and I keep getting better.

Also Super Mario, Looks like its designed for young kids but it is really meant to appeal to everyone. Its very playable and was the first game I ever played on an N64.

Legend of Zelda is another example. Itís a HUGE game with a massive amount of adventure and things to do.

If all the games on the N64 were violent or rated 15+ then a huge amount of the gaming market would be lost. There are plenty of violent games or games for older games.

Banjo Tooie, I would be impressed if you found someone who didnít describe this game as childish. But it is a very very hard game. It has levels that just get bigger and bigger as you explore. Things open up and you find another bit. It took me 50+ hours of solid gameplay to complete. There is even a multiplayer.

I think this topic is really about Nintendoís skill in producing games for everyone. They aim to entertain people of all ages, not just the 15-22 year olds.

So please lets not have any more topics about Nintendo being to ìchildishî or producing too many ìkiddieî games.

Finally, Pokemon, this is something that you either love or hate. Most people say they hate it but secretly play the games at home. Nintendo found an idea that people liked and used it. There is nothing wrong with that. They made a lot of money and made a lot of kids very happy. I would be impressed if Pokemon kept going but it has been one of the biggest fads I can remember.

Do Playsation have anything as big as pokemon? No because they would see it as being designed for 3 year olds and not be interested.

Thanks for reading but frankly i don't give a damn,

Lord Semajal

*Turbonutter checks his fingers once again for any abrasions or blisters*

Nope, you are obviously holding it upside down or somthing. When I got SSX I played it for 9 hours straight, from midday when I got it to 9pm when Mum wanted the TV. No, my fingers didn't hurt at all whatsoever.

Lord Semajal wrote:
> Turbonutter wrote:
> Lord Semajal wrote:
> ok platformers don't reall y
> get the pulse racing but
> try playing carrington
> institute defence on
> perfect agent on perfeck
> dark.

That gets my pulse
> racing


Yes
> yes yes, you lot always bring
> this up, but it's only one game! Yes, there
> are others but there's not nearly as
> much as the PS2 has!

I have played
> on my mates PS2 and found the games and controlls annoying.

The analogue
> sticks hurt my fingers.

Well, that's just because your used to Nintendo controllers. The PS2 Controller has never hurt my fingers, where as I always found the N64 one uncomfortable.

Turbonutter wrote:
> Lord Semajal wrote:
> ok platformers don't reall y get the pulse racing but
> try playing carrington
> institute defence on perfect agent on perfeck
> dark.

That gets my pulse
> racing


Yes yes yes, you lot always bring
> this up, but it's only one game! Yes, there are others but there's not nearly as
> much as the PS2 has!

I have played on my mates PS2 and found the games and controlls annoying.

The analogue sticks hurt my fingers.

Lord Semajal wrote:
> ok platformers don't reall y get the pulse racing but try playing carrington
> institute defence on perfect agent on perfeck dark.

That gets my pulse
> racing


Yes yes yes, you lot always bring this up, but it's only one game! Yes, there are others but there's not nearly as much as the PS2 has!

Ant wrote:
> Damn, why did that happen??? Sorry Semajal.

Apology accepted.

Im too tired to argue properly

ok platformers don't reall y get the pulse racing but try playing carrington institute defence on perfect agent on perfeck dark.

That gets my pulse racing

Platformers, although occasionally brilliant (Sonic 1. And 2. Don't forget 3, & Knuckles, 3D and CD) and occasionally not so brilliant (Croc, Mario 64) rarely do little to the heartrate.

However, pick any random PS2 games and chances are it'll be a blood-pumper. There's the difference.

You see, kiddies aren't allowed to play exciting games... ;-)

Damn, why did that happen??? Sorry Semajal.

What I think we're trying to get at is that Sony offer a much wider range of variety.

You have to admit it, Nintendo specialise in cartoonie platformers. Nothing necessarily wrong, but because of this, you have to expect all the 'kiddie' comments with it.

And it's true. Nintendo may be great for the platforming fan, but certainly not for a racing fan-as Nintendo have never offered any decent, realistic racers. Sony have Gran Turismo, Sega have MSR and Microsoft have that Gotham Racing.

So I think that's why many people (including myself,) prefer the PS2, as it doesn't really specialise in just one type of game.

What I think we're trying to get at is that Sony offer a much wider range of variety.

You have to admit it, Nintendo specialise in cartoonie platformers. Nothing necessarily wrong, but because of this, you have to expect all the 'kiddie' comments with it.

And it's true. Nintendo may be great for the platforming fan, but certainly not for a racing fan-as Nintendo have never offered any decent, realistic racers. Sony have Gran Turismo, Sega have MSR and Microsoft have that Gotham Racing.

So I think that's why many people (including myself,) prefer the PS2, as it doesn't really specialise in just one type of game.