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Fri 21/09/01 at 20:53
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When people used to say that Playstation games were more mature than Nintendo ones, I thought that they were idiots.

Not only did the N64 have a fair selection of red certificate games, but Zelda and Mario were just as mature in gameplay as any Playstaiotn game.

Ofcourse, I made a slight mistake.

When people say "mature games" they don't mean "adult" games like Perfect Dark and Resident Evil.

They mean "mature" games like Microsoft Flight Simulators, and Gran Tourismo.

Think of it in Gameplay terms.

I'd say that MS Flight Sim would be the most mature game around, with Mario Party being one of the more immature ones. They're the extremes of their range.

Microsoft flight sim is slow, complex and sensible.
No real action, it's using your skill and techniques to fly a plane and landing it.
Pretty complex, very slow, takes time to master and you need lots of patience.
Anyone not "mature" enough to play it will just find it boring.

Mario Party - the epitimy of simplicity.
Games so simple that a five year old can beat a 30 year old.
Plenty of skill involved, although it's more spontanious than learnt techniques from more "mature" games.
Ofcourse, "mature" gamers will find it stupidly childish.


So are you a spod/anorak or a five year old?
Well, I think most people here are in between.
Some games, like Mario Tennis, are far into the "immature" side, while more sensible games like GT3 will be in the "mature" range.

So which side is best?
Well it depends on your style, but a develloper would do best to aim for the middle. The only game I can think of which is smack bang in the middle is Goldeneye.

You can see why it was popular.
I think that most Nintendo fans will agree that Goldeneye is probably the biggest hit of all time. Playstation owners would have too if it had been released on their machine.

It was perfect.

If was fairly serious so that "mature" gamers wouldn't be put off by fun graphics, and it was also incredibly fun and playable so that "immature" players loved it too.

So where do other games fit in on this scale?

I'd say tha Mario 64 is half way between Mario Party and Goldeneye and that Zelda is half way between them.
Resident Evil (with it's slower more puzzle based gameplay) will be in between Goldeneye and MS Flight sim.

MGS will be between Goldeneye and Resident Evil while GT3 is between Flight Sim and Resident Evil.

So you get a sort of scale.

I think that the Zelda to Resident Evil range is to all players taste (other than the extremists on either side).

I've always wondered why people slated cartoony games as chldish.
I bet many PS2 owners can't believe that I've slated GT3 as boring and dull.

I guess that it's all down to "maturity".

Ofcourse, when I say "mature", I mean mature people.

I think that trully mature gamers will strike a fair balance between both sides and like game so long as it's good. That's the stage that most magazines are at.
Mon 24/09/01 at 21:55
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Just checking :-)

Er-no did that a little bit just after I'd changed my name...


The little scoundrel! ;-D
Mon 24/09/01 at 21:53
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Strafex wrote:
> Dan2K1?

What's he got to with this topic?


(you do know that I'm
> "Dan uk", the other Dan of this forums... surely you do... don't
> you? )

Course I do!

Lol, I changed my name to Strafex to avoid mix ups like these :-D

Yes I know, I said that on purpose. It was a joke, that's why i put the smiley there.
Mon 24/09/01 at 21:48
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Dan2K1?

What's he got to with this topic?


(you do know that I'm "Dan uk", the other Dan of this forums... surely you do... don't you?)

Lol, I changed my name to Strafex to avoid mix ups like these :-D
Mon 24/09/01 at 21:43
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I'd already read it, Dan2k1 :-D

Forgot about it though, that's why I wasted my time writing one similar to this, godammit!

Just to clarify though, that idea came into my head all by itself, I didn't nick it from you :-D
Mon 24/09/01 at 21:42
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Popping for RBS.
Sat 22/09/01 at 20:49
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Actually, if you use this theory, it turns out that Pokemon with it's slow paced strategy is nearly as "mature" as Resident Evil.

Something's gone wrong...



... or has it?
Sat 22/09/01 at 00:41
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Meh.

Depends what you like. I bet Banjo Kazooie is a good game, and if I could play it for more than 20 mins without my eyes watering, I bet I'd think it was a good game too.

And if I here another bar of that music again, people will die...
Fri 21/09/01 at 22:37
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It's up to the BBFC but I'll tell you sommin I'm grabbing GTA3 before they "try" to ban it.

That's worthy of an 18 certificate wouldn't you say or is it just childish thrills, either way still good!!
Fri 21/09/01 at 22:34
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It was an 18 because you could realistically shoot people in the head and blood would spurt out.

Personally, I think that it's nothing that most 14 year olds couldn't handle.
Fri 21/09/01 at 22:26
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don't really know why perfect Dark got an 18. Im not 18 and its my fave game.

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