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Mon 17/09/01 at 14:10
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One thing starting to annoy me about the reporting of last week's attack on the WTC is the way it is becoming 'USA, USA'.

Don't get me wrong, I know it was a US city and buildings that were attacked, and that they had more people in the towers, but *lots* of nations had people in the towers, and it seems to be getting forgotten.

I know that nationality doesn't matter, and all the lives are as important as each other, but the way I see it, it is increasingly being reported as an American-only tragedy.

Chants of "USA, USA", "God Bless America" etc. - understandable I suppose, as it is an American population - but even the reporting in our press seems to be along the lines of "feel sorry for America" when they clearly aren't the *only* people affected.

I know they've *said* that despite the events happening in New York it was an attack on the entire 'free world', but that seems to be getting lost now as the sorrow turns to anger.

Maybe it is just my imagination and/or the way things are being reported, but it seems that America is beginning to talk in terms of how *they* are going to respond, while clearly they will be asking the rest of the world to stand beside them.

I don't think I've explained my thoughts very well, as I've rushed this post out before my lunch break ends. But if you do understand what I'm getting at... do you agree?
Mon 17/09/01 at 16:50
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Your Honour wrote:

I guess we'd feel the same if Big Ben and Buckingham Palace were destroyed, as they represent the UK. Thats the image many people have of the UK. It would be almost as if our identity had been taken away.

I see your trying to think of landmarks in UK but if they got destoryed I wouldn't really give a damn... well only if there were many deaths etc.
Mon 17/09/01 at 16:44
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I amn't entirely convinced a plane hijacker must have know the devastation that would have caused, no one expected those towers to fall down immediately after the attack happened, it is easier to make those judgments with hindsight, but the collapse was so unexpected that 300+ firefighters were lost, no one expected that to happen.
Mon 17/09/01 at 16:36
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Bonus wrote:
Also
> most of the financial burden will be held accountable to the
> American federal government.


Not true, Lloyds could be stuffed to the tune of £27 BILLION.



I really
> don't think that the terrorists realised the full consequences and> effect their actions would have. And the failure of anyone to admit> responsibility may show a fear that they did far more damage and> caused far more deaths than they expected, but as always, we will> never know.


Sorry, can't agree there either. Aviation fuel burns at 1000 degrees C. No material in the world can stand that temperature. Even if the WTC towers did have a central column, they would have collapsed anyway, it just may have taken slightly longer.

Whoever planned this, would have known that, yet did it anyway.
Mon 17/09/01 at 16:27
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The press are fuelling a patriotism in Americans, maybe not, can they just be reflecting upon what is actually happening?? americans have taken this to heart, many see this as primarily an attack on America which just happened to pull the rest of the world in. They may also feel isolated because it was only really their stock exchange etc. which stayed closed for the rest of the week. Also most of the financial burden will be held accountable to the American federal government. To boot it was also air liners only from US internal flights being run by US airlines. Then the military side of things, only American amilitary targets were aimed at, this attack was an attack on America which just happened to have a wider consequence for many more nations around the world, I really don't think that the terrorists realised the full consequences and effect their actions would have. And the failure of anyone to admit responsibility may show a fear that they did far more damage and caused far more deaths than they expected, but as always, we will never know.
Mon 17/09/01 at 15:09
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Your Honour wrote:
I would guess 99% of the world has heard of
> the Pentagon, probably over half have heard of the twin towers of
> NY.

I would disagree. I was watching a news report and it said that most of the population of Afghanistan would not have herd of the pentagon or The world trade centre. It actually compared Afghanistan to a "stone-age" country, Most of the population of do not have TV, radio or even a postal service. I suppose you could even compare Afghanistan to Ethiopia, as both suffer from drought and starvation and while we emphasize the "terrible" Taliban we ignored the (civil) war and conflict in Ethiopia.
Mon 17/09/01 at 14:16
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I do understand what you're getting at, and I sort of agree.

But what you have to remember is, not only were (most) of the people that died American, but also the attacks occured on things that symbolize America.

I would guess 99% of the world has heard of the Pentagon, probably over half have heard of the twin towers of NY.

Not only did the US have many thousands of people killed, but they had buildings that symbolized thier country destroyed, or attempted to be destroyed.


I guess we'd feel the same if Big Ben and Buckingham Palace were destroyed, as they represent the UK. Thats the image many people have of the UK. It would be almost as if our identity had been taken away.
Mon 17/09/01 at 14:10
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One thing starting to annoy me about the reporting of last week's attack on the WTC is the way it is becoming 'USA, USA'.

Don't get me wrong, I know it was a US city and buildings that were attacked, and that they had more people in the towers, but *lots* of nations had people in the towers, and it seems to be getting forgotten.

I know that nationality doesn't matter, and all the lives are as important as each other, but the way I see it, it is increasingly being reported as an American-only tragedy.

Chants of "USA, USA", "God Bless America" etc. - understandable I suppose, as it is an American population - but even the reporting in our press seems to be along the lines of "feel sorry for America" when they clearly aren't the *only* people affected.

I know they've *said* that despite the events happening in New York it was an attack on the entire 'free world', but that seems to be getting lost now as the sorrow turns to anger.

Maybe it is just my imagination and/or the way things are being reported, but it seems that America is beginning to talk in terms of how *they* are going to respond, while clearly they will be asking the rest of the world to stand beside them.

I don't think I've explained my thoughts very well, as I've rushed this post out before my lunch break ends. But if you do understand what I'm getting at... do you agree?

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