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Wed 12/09/01 at 23:48
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Ermmmm... Sky News are suggesting that MS Flight Sim was used to train the terrorists in their pilot-ing skills. Cue mass histeria in the Daily Mail...

Who says gamers aren't skapegoats?

Full story on The Register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21635.html
Thu 13/09/01 at 16:06
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AliBoy wrote:
> It would have taken something really special to be able to predict
> that something like that was going to happen.


I don't think it would.

It was a big event, hijacking 4 planes, planting car bombs etc.

It would have taken years to plan. Surely someone, at some point in time, heard something about it.

I find it impossible to think that no one in the FBI or CIA or whatever had heard anything about this.
Thu 13/09/01 at 16:04
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The only thing that could have prevented this would be a sealed cockpit that only the pilots could access. The terrorists took the planes with pocket knives!

Maybe if pilots could Gas everyone in the plane that might have helped.

As for MS flight sim being used to train terrorists to fly thats rubbish the terrorists trained to fly in the US by professionals.
Thu 13/09/01 at 13:22
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It would have taken something really special to be able to predict that something like that was going to happen. Maybe more could have and should have been done but I don't know. I was just saying that if there was evidence that someone inside was involved then Im sure they would find it.
Thu 13/09/01 at 13:16
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AliBoy wrote:
> With the inteligence that the U.S government has I
> think they would know if this had happened.

I wouldn't give them *too* much credit at the moment. After all, they did miss this entire episode.
Thu 13/09/01 at 13:10
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Your Honour wrote:
> Has anyone thought that it could have been someone from WITHIN the
> US, wanting to make it look like Arabs as everyone knows the US and
> the Arabs don't get on?

So they left all this stuff lying around,
> to make it look like someone else.

With the inteligence that the U.S government has I think they would know if this had happened. They already know all the terrorists on-board the planes. They know where they learned to fly and a bit about how it was all pieced together.
I think they already know who is responsible and just want to finalise everything and then we will see some reaction by the U.S. They wont react if there is any doubt as to who is responsible.
Thu 13/09/01 at 13:06
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Has anyone here played a flight sim and NOT tried to smash into things? Be it buildings, the sea or bridges?

It's a game, nothing more.
I have stayed silent on this whole issue because my feelings are tainted with thoughts of revenge for a dead Uncle and a not entirely balanced viewpoint right now.

I play flight sims, I have tried to fly into buildings whilst playing flight sims.
Everyone has, doesn't mean the game is a bad thing.
(I'm aware that isn't even the claim, but it will be discussed at length by those that choose easy targets)

Why not Counter-Strike? A terrorist/anti-terrorist game.
Why not Desert Strike/Jungle Strike?
Why not blame Tom Clancy because he wrote a book about terrorists flying a plane into congress and wiping out everyone.

This cannot be explained away with the usual excuses and scapegoats, this is too important.

Music did not cause this, games did not cause this.
We dont know what caused it, we can speculate about US foreign policy, Islamic Jihad, Muslim Extremists etc etc

All I know is thousands of people are dead, and nobody knows why someone would do this.
Again, I know that this isn't the argument, but it will be.
"Marylin Manson said to do it"
"Microsoft Flight Sim said to do it"

This kind of arguments (not by anyone here, but by Congress,Policians etc) degrades the importance and memory of the thousands upon thousands of people that lost their lives, and those that we just don't even know if they are still alive.

This is not a time to look for reasons, this is a time to heal, to hug and to come together.
Thu 13/09/01 at 12:53
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Slaveunit wrote:
> Dammit, YH, ya beat me to it.

Lol, sorry mate.

:-)
Thu 13/09/01 at 12:52
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Dammit, YH, ya beat me to it.
Thu 13/09/01 at 12:51
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If they were that stupid then they wouldnt have been able to fly the planes.

The possibility of an inside job isnt ruled out, people can get on an interstate plane as easy as we can get on a bus. it was an interstate trip, and they could ahve been dumb enough to have tried the car decoy...
Thu 13/09/01 at 12:50
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Has anyone thought that it could have been someone from WITHIN the US, wanting to make it look like Arabs as everyone knows the US and the Arabs don't get on?

So they left all this stuff lying around, to make it look like someone else.

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