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Tue 11/09/01 at 18:33
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Hello, you might remember me, if you don't do not worry, you will not be condemned, but I felt that I should say something about life, aspects and so on, hopefully get a discussion going - stranger things have happened...

In light of recent events, I was, as I am sure you were, not best pleased, but for some reason I'm not surprised, I'm not about to preach to you about anything - just read what you want, and thanks.

I believe that everything happens for a reason. We cannot go back in time and change things, and nor should we, but something like a war, or a terrorist attack - you have to take something out of it - a positive, and not only hope that nothing of the sort happens again, but actually make it happen. Sounds simple, sorry if you find what I'm saying irritating, boring, but I have to say it.

Life is the most important aspect of, oh wait 'life'. Life is something that you'll only have one go at, and I hope you live your life to the full, and enjoy what you do in it, it's one massive experience, and nobody knows what happens after it (other than you die, maybe there's a heaven, maybe not, I am not religious, but I believe in life) so I ask you to realise that what you have is almost incomprehendable. The world is OUR oyster, let's not abuse it...

Anyway, what has happened in the USA is the spawn of something mallicious, evil and disrespectful of life, causing many to be lost - just like that - I'm not asking you to live your life as if each day's your last, but I am trying to open up your eyes and appreciate what we have, everyone of us.

Don't let that arguement commence, don't aggrevate someone uneccessarily - don't make their lives a nightmare, help someone. Encourage someone that maybe you don't usually get on with, just be the best person you can.



Murder, crime, bullying - terrorism.



These words describe the wrong doings of individuals, groups of people, and they do not belong in life.

Respect yourself, respect others and respect life - it's precious.

How anyone can do something that ends someone else's life - it's beyond me. I'm choking up, I'm just gonna let you discuss.

My condolences to everyone assocciated, families that will have to get through the recent events, and my heart goes out to them. Thank you for reading, I'm sure you have a say, let's live in the hope that the world not only takes notice of what has happened, but takes action too.

Dan
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:50
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Imagine how god is feeling. He must be so upset that his creations are acting disgustingly. I think if I was GOd I wouldmove on to a new planet as he has had more than enouhg for a few millions of years. (:)
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:42
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This is what I wrote about Tim McVeigh basck when that happened. What I say in that applies to this siutation here. And what I wrote was straight from the heart, it wasn't other people's views, they are mine and they are what I believe.

On Monday the Oklahoma bomber, Tim McVeigh, was executed for the murder of 180 people. A huge number of moral and ethical issues are raised in this debate I’m about to instigate. So, the question is, should he have been killed?

Well I personally think that, no, he should not have been killed. Let me explain my point of view. I happen to believe that no one; NO ONE deserves to die. No matter what they’ve done and how they have acted it is just not right to take away a persons life like that. Decreeing who lives or dies is like playing God. Ask any morally correct human or any Holy person and they will give you this answer. Playing God is wrong. And we are effectively doing this.

Another point would be the fact that he actually WANTED to die. By executing him they’ve granted his wishes which is basically wrong. Isn’t it? This guy killed 180 people in one swoop. So why the Hell are they granting him his wish? Killing him is the easy way out for him. He’s escaped the public’s wrath (mostly) and can now rot peacefully in Hell.

Death for Timothy McVeigh is not much of a punishment. He had a quick and painless death. All he would have felt was a little sting where the needle went in. He received three drugs. One to put him unconscious, one to collapse his lungs and finally one to stop his heart. It was all over in a split second for him. More of a punishment for him would have been to actually meet and look the relatives of the people he killed in the eye and say he was sorry, would have been much harder. Much more punishing. Much more PAINFUL for him to do this than to have been put to death.

So why else shouldn’t have he been killed? Well there’s the fact that, no matter what court sanctions it, no matter if it’s inside the law or outside, execution is still MURDER. Killing someone because a court has sanctioned it is no different from killing someone because they killed your brother or something like that. They’re lowering themselves to his level by executing him.

What has been gained by this? By killing him I mean. What the hell has it solved? It doesn’t bring back the people who were killed. It doesn’t help anyone... apart from journalists. It may help ease the pain felt by the families of the ones who were killed (although it shouldn’t) But most critically of all: There is still some blind spots in the case of the Oklahoma bomb. By killing the only known participant then we’re still going to not know some, perhaps, critical pieces of information.

Killing Tim McVeigh was both stupid and irresponsible, it should not have been done. I feel very strongly about this and that is why I have gone to the trouble of writing this piece. Until America gets rid of corpral punishment then they won’t move forward, the sooner they realise this the better.
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:41
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It trivialises everything, incidents like this.

I bet that before lunch, atleast one of those people thought that their day couldn't get worse because they'd lost some important paper work.

Just goes to show how unimportant some worries can be.
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:41
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RastaBillySkank wrote:
> I don't wanna kill them, I wanna throw them into jail until they die
> and let God sort them out. He made them, he can deal with them.

Yes, but God didn't plan for them to do this...

And he will sort them out, don't you worry. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if God blew up the whole world right now...
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:39
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I agree that they are goods creations and should be dealt with by him accrodingly. I cant help feel that if The Pres finds ou who did this he might.....
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:36
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Ant wrote:
Yeah, that
> just makes you as low as the pyscho's that did this...


This is probably just a mis-understanding, but I don't think there should be a war over this.

I put my thoughts in one of the other threads.
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:36
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Ant wrote:
> Your Honour wrote:
> Dan2K1 wrote:
> No one has the right to
> take another's
> life.



Really?

So why are some people
> wanting to kill
> everyone involved in this then?

Yeah, that
> just makes you as low as the pyscho's that did this...

Yes i agree with you, but i feel the only way to punish the ones who did it would be to kill them too, whether by bombing, or if they were arrested and given the death penalty. A life for a life.
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:34
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I say a life for a life.

The man who organised this atrocity should be killed.

His life should be taken, without hesitation.

No-one here can tell me it shouldn't without lying to themselves.
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:33
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I don't wanna kill them, I wanna throw them into jail until they die and let God sort them out. He made them, he can deal with them.
Tue 11/09/01 at 21:32
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Your Honour wrote:
> Dan2K1 wrote:
> No one has the right to take another's
> life.



Really?

So why are some people wanting to kill
> everyone involved in this then?

Yeah, that just makes you as low as the pyscho's that did this...

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