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Considering the amount of criticism levelled at our government by the press and public (and in these forums) about their handling of asylum seekers, what have they done to counteract this?
Allowed only 20 Albanians to come to the match tonight, and those 20 have to prove they have been to a previous World Cup related game and gone back home afterwards.
Now, it may just me being cynical, but haven't Albania been part of the World Cup for a while now?
And surely there's a difference between people coming to watch a football match and someone running through the channel tunnel?
"Government,you suck"
"No, look! We are allowing 20 fans to come to the football, we're controlling the asylum seekers! We are effective and bothered!"
"Um..what about the 150 every single night that come on the ferries and in boots of cars?"
"Shut up! Look how we control the football asylum seekers!"
Yeah right.
So 20 fans (there are more stewards than Albania fans tonight) because "Asylum seekers need to be controlled".
People fleeing from a country with a decent enough stability, no internal brutalisation and a football team?
I don't think so
Can we say "Manipulation of The Masses through Media"?
See how effective our government is by banning all but 20 football fans from watching their national team play.
Ok, so they do nothing about the flooding of the Chunnel and Ports but boy, do they got footie fans under control.
Shame they aren't so righteous when it comes to banning football hooligans from going abroad.
This is bullsheet
Allowed only 20 Albanians to come to the match tonight, and those 20 have to prove they have been to a previous World Cup related game and gone back home afterwards.
Now, it may just me being cynical, but haven't Albania been part of the World Cup for a while now?
And surely there's a difference between people coming to watch a football match and someone running through the channel tunnel?
"Government,you suck"
"No, look! We are allowing 20 fans to come to the football, we're controlling the asylum seekers! We are effective and bothered!"
"Um..what about the 150 every single night that come on the ferries and in boots of cars?"
"Shut up! Look how we control the football asylum seekers!"
Yeah right.
So 20 fans (there are more stewards than Albania fans tonight) because "Asylum seekers need to be controlled".
People fleeing from a country with a decent enough stability, no internal brutalisation and a football team?
I don't think so
Can we say "Manipulation of The Masses through Media"?
See how effective our government is by banning all but 20 football fans from watching their national team play.
Ok, so they do nothing about the flooding of the Chunnel and Ports but boy, do they got footie fans under control.
Shame they aren't so righteous when it comes to banning football hooligans from going abroad.
This is bullsheet
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SHEEPY wrote:
> It would never happen for many reasons but imagine...
Albaina or
> some other country only let 20 England fans come to see them
> play
Wasn't that the other way around? I read on some paper today that only 20 albanian fans are coming over here, as the government fears they'll apply for asylum.
> It would never happen for many reasons but imagine...
Albaina or
> some other country only let 20 England fans come to see them
> play
Wasn't that the other way around? I read on some paper today that only 20 albanian fans are coming over here, as the government fears they'll apply for asylum.
Andrew Hunt wrote:
> OK, I havent read this hole topic but I do know that the Albanian FA
> said it wasn't bringing any fans beacse 'we cannot be sure that they
> will go back' just a thought.
As in they would seek asylum or English fans would kill them?
> OK, I havent read this hole topic but I do know that the Albanian FA
> said it wasn't bringing any fans beacse 'we cannot be sure that they
> will go back' just a thought.
As in they would seek asylum or English fans would kill them?
It would never happen for many reasons but imagine...
Albaina or some other country only let 20 England fans come to see them play
LOL
he he
Albaina or some other country only let 20 England fans come to see them play
LOL
he he
Andrew, you didn't miss much.
About 43 of th3 46 posts are exactly the same!
About 43 of th3 46 posts are exactly the same!
OK, I havent read this hole topic but I do know that the Albanian FA said it wasn't bringing any fans beacse 'we cannot be sure that they will go back' just a thought.
Jeez, what happened there?!
It appears you feel strongly on this matter
LOL
And I thought I was hardcore
LOL
And I thought I was hardcore
Your Honour wrote:
> I heard the same thing on the radio this morning.
A bit pathetic
> really, IMHO. As has already been said, hundreds find their way
> across by other means, so is this really worth it?
I just wish
> they could be as effective in stopping hooligans going to matches,
> echoing Goaty's thoughts there.
Also, genuine question about
> asylum seekers now, as I don't know that much about it - nor do I
> preted to:
If they ask for asylum, can't we just say
> "No" and send them back?
Everybody has the right to claim for asylum. The process can take up to a year and half to be investigaged and processed. During this period asylum seekers are not entitled to state benefits but will recived vouchers for food £30.00 a week I think. They will also be given temporary accomodation.If their request for Asylum is denied then they can be deported. Problem is that they usually disappear by this stage. Unlike France we don't have an identity card system to it is relatively easy to disappear here. However once you have disappeared you can't claim any benefits at all. Oh no that would be foolish and you would be deported if you turned up at a governmnet agency.
It seems everyone who asks
> for asylum gets it.
> I heard the same thing on the radio this morning.
A bit pathetic
> really, IMHO. As has already been said, hundreds find their way
> across by other means, so is this really worth it?
I just wish
> they could be as effective in stopping hooligans going to matches,
> echoing Goaty's thoughts there.
Also, genuine question about
> asylum seekers now, as I don't know that much about it - nor do I
> preted to:
If they ask for asylum, can't we just say
> "No" and send them back?
Everybody has the right to claim for asylum. The process can take up to a year and half to be investigaged and processed. During this period asylum seekers are not entitled to state benefits but will recived vouchers for food £30.00 a week I think. They will also be given temporary accomodation.If their request for Asylum is denied then they can be deported. Problem is that they usually disappear by this stage. Unlike France we don't have an identity card system to it is relatively easy to disappear here. However once you have disappeared you can't claim any benefits at all. Oh no that would be foolish and you would be deported if you turned up at a governmnet agency.
It seems everyone who asks
> for asylum gets it.
Your Honour wrote:
> I heard the same thing on the radio this morning.
A bit pathetic
> really, IMHO. As has already been said, hundreds find their way
> across by other means, so is this really worth it?
I just wish
> they could be as effective in stopping hooligans going to matches,
> echoing Goaty's thoughts there.
Also, genuine question about
> asylum seekers now, as I don't know that much about it - nor do I
> preted to:
If they ask for asylum, can't we just say
> "No" and send them back?
Everybody has the right to claim for asylum. The process can take up to a year and half to be investigaged and processed. During this period asylum seekers are not entitled to state benefits but will recived vouchers for food £30.00 a week I think. They will also be given temporary accomodation.If their request for Asylum is denied then they can be deported. Problem is that they usually disappear by this stage. Unlike France we don't have an identity card system to it is relatively easy to disappear here. However once you have disappeared you can't claim any benefits at all. Oh no that would be foolish and you would be deported if you turned up at a governmnet agency.
It seems everyone who asks
> for asylum gets it.
> I heard the same thing on the radio this morning.
A bit pathetic
> really, IMHO. As has already been said, hundreds find their way
> across by other means, so is this really worth it?
I just wish
> they could be as effective in stopping hooligans going to matches,
> echoing Goaty's thoughts there.
Also, genuine question about
> asylum seekers now, as I don't know that much about it - nor do I
> preted to:
If they ask for asylum, can't we just say
> "No" and send them back?
Everybody has the right to claim for asylum. The process can take up to a year and half to be investigaged and processed. During this period asylum seekers are not entitled to state benefits but will recived vouchers for food £30.00 a week I think. They will also be given temporary accomodation.If their request for Asylum is denied then they can be deported. Problem is that they usually disappear by this stage. Unlike France we don't have an identity card system to it is relatively easy to disappear here. However once you have disappeared you can't claim any benefits at all. Oh no that would be foolish and you would be deported if you turned up at a governmnet agency.
It seems everyone who asks
> for asylum gets it.
Theoretically every case in investigated,but it takes months and sometimes years, as the backlog is so huge.
So they can say yes, but it may be a long time after the fact when it doesn't matter anymore.
So they can say yes, but it may be a long time after the fact when it doesn't matter anymore.
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