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Mon 03/09/01 at 09:56
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Ok, I’ll keep my tone neutral for this topic and just ask a question:

Anyone see the refugees making a gang-bust entrance to the Channel Tunnel on the news? 150 charging down the tunnel and towards England.
Quote from the MP for Dover “The French are treating them deliberately badly and positioning the camp so near as to all but send them over themselves”

My question, as raised by the MP is this:

Why, if you flee your homeland from oppression and brutality, do you then travel 400-500 miles across Europe to England, when surely as soon as you have left your country, you are safe?
The MP called it “Asylum shopping, not asylum seeking. They are already in a free and sympathetic country, why then push on to England?”
Why not stay in France, where you are not being a victim of whatever drove you from your home?
Why cross hundreds of miles of free, democratic countries to get to England.
If life is so harsh, surely anywhere is better than where you left?

I don’t get it.
Tue 04/09/01 at 00:46
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They should get charged more than 2,00o pounds every time one of there 'problems' gets over into our country. The French just send them over, as why would they want them? This has caused a huge problem in Britian and will continue. Unless something is done. So how do we resolve this situation? Putting a guard at the entrance into our country could always help this, alone with many other things. They cannot be allowed into our conutry to survive on our taxes and live in a nice council house. It should be stopped and NOW!!!!!!!
Tue 04/09/01 at 00:34
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I think that should be mandatory for anyone born in any country.

Kind of an idiot-test, check the parents and think "Well, let's be honest, the kid's gonna be a waste anyway" and chuck them all over to Jersey.

Let Bergerac sort 'em out
Mon 03/09/01 at 19:36
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I find it hard to sympathise with refugees who expect to be waited on hand and foot, If somone wishes to become a good solid member of british society I do not have a problem with them living in our land. However those who live here for a life of crime I really do not like. If a erson is let in they should only be allowed in if they agree to try and maintain a stable job, Household and maintain a criminal record which is free of any serious crime.If they wish to be a member of tis society then they should act like a respectable one and I do not have a problem with their presence.
Mon 03/09/01 at 19:09
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There were once three refugees. There was the baby refugee, the mommy refugee, and the great big Billy Goat Gruff refugee.

They had escaped from their cages, and after spending time in France, decided that the grass was greener on the other side, and decided to make a run for it across the great big channel tunnel.

Baby refugee went first.

"Who goes there?" Cried the train driver.

"It is I! The baby refugee!"

"You may not pass."

So the baby refugee walked back, irritated.

So mommy refugee tried.

"Who goes there?" Cried the train driver.

"It is I! The mommy refugee!"

"You may not pass."

So the mommy refugee walked back, irritated.

So Billy Goat Gruff refugee tried.

"Who goes there?"

"It is I! Billy Goat Gruff refugee!"

"You may not pass."

So the three refugees walked away, all upset they couldn't get past.

In which time they managed to hide under the place between the wheels and the undercarridge and got all the way to Britain, where our Government found them, said "Ah well, they're here now.", and gave them jobs as doctors, nurses and policemen.
Mon 03/09/01 at 18:45
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No worries. They'll stop coming as soon as our economy collapses.
Mon 03/09/01 at 18:41
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Can't be bothered thinking :-)

I hate subjects like that.
Mon 03/09/01 at 17:15
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SHEEPY wrote:
> I hate people that go on about how there stealing our
> jobs etc.... thats racism...

Not always, though. What about 'reverse' racism?

There was a case recently where a particular fire station was forced to take on a person from a certain "ethnic" group (I hate that word - by its very nature it differentiates people by race) because he was required to meet a certain 'ethnic' quota. Despite having two white candidates who were more qualified.

This is the type of thing that *creates* more racial tension than it eases. My opinion is, best man for the job, gets the job - regardless of their cultural heritage or background.

Yet this kind of racism is generally tolerated and seen as 'okay'.
Mon 03/09/01 at 17:01
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Hmmm

Its one of those things isn't it?

I hate people that go on about how there stealing our jobs etc.... thats racism... most of these people have been through some of the worst things in the world and then these morons go on a rave about them.

Although this I feel like telling them to bog off... you've just went thruhg half of Europe now just stay there... they're thje morons in this case...

I dunno
Mon 03/09/01 at 16:55
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And they want to make our bananas straight.

It's not on
Mon 03/09/01 at 16:52
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Hooplah wrote:
> That's true Wookiee, but I don't expect Australia to fight fire with
> fire in that type of situation.

Ah, but there's an election copming up...


> Your second point is why I
> think the EU/whoever should take more responsibility for it's member
> states, ensuring that these people have somewhere to go.

I agree - but too many other EU members are all too keen to ship them through and wash their hands of them, and they always seem to end up here.

The most annoying thing is that it's these other EU states which, though clearly unwilling to take the refugees themselves, then demand that we *do* accept them.

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