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Sat 01/09/01 at 21:52
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Okay, when you read this post you may think that I reckon I'm a saint or something, but you'd be wrong. I'm far from it, although I like to think of myself as a good person-or a better person since I became a christian.

Anyway, I'd like to tell you a small story. A couple of nights ago I went to McDonalds and the Cinema for 2 of my friends joint-birthday part. They both invited about 3 people each.

Now, the person who invited me is the person who helped me to get baptised. He is also...to put it blatently, rather fat-not that it's really his fault. He tries hard to lose it, but nothing seems to work. In our little group of friends, we take the mickey out of eachother quite a lot, and he is normally the target. From now on, we'll call him Boy1.

As it was partly his birthday, I thought, "Well hopefully they'll leave off him tonight. Hopefully they'll be nice."

We got there and went into McDonalds, everything seemed fine. I went and took a seat with 1 other friend. Then, while Boy1 was ordering, Boy2 (the person who takes the mick out of him the most,) came up to my table, sat down, and invited everyone else to sit their, saying, "Make boy1 sit on his own!"

Fortunately, Boy1 sat with one other person on his table, but I still thought it was unfair. He seemed happy enough, but I am disappointed with myself for not going and sitting with him.

Boy1 had said earlier he was gonna get a DVD Player. He didn't in the end, and Boy2 purposefully asked him if he got it. Boy1 said no, and Boy2 sniggered, along with a few of the others.

Then we went onto the cinema. As we went up the steps to our seats, I checked that Boy1 was sitting in the middle of a few people. He was. I sat down between 2 people, looked to my right, and was surprised to see Boy1 sitting at the end of our group-I wasn't sure how that happened. He seemed happy though, and he was sitting to probably the funniest member of our group, but I still feel annoyed that I didn't offer my seat to him...should I have?? I'm not sure, to be honest...

As the movie went on, and afterwards, a few more jokes were cracked about him, most behind his back. I was really annoyed, and felt like saying something but as some of you, I am very unconfident as a person, and I just didn't have the courage. Inside I was thinking, "What's the point?? Why can't you just leave him for once!?"

So, what is the point of this topic?? It's basically the heading, why are people horrible to each other?? I asked Goatboy this question that very night, and he told me something which I also believe it's true. It's because by insulting others, people can feel better about themselves. He also said it's a way of denying that you've mucked up your life.

This topic reminds me of what John Coffey said in the Green Mile, about how every hurtful comments, every bad thing anyone did felt like something sharp piercing him (a bit like that, anyway, I can't remember what he said exactly,) and on that night, I felt the same way.

As I said, I'm not perfect, FAR from it. I've insulted enough people in my time, although mostly jokingly. Yeah, it's okay to take the mick a little, and as long as it's only a little joke, but to do it at their birthday party really gets to me...

I would like to hear your views on this subject.

Thanks for reading, Ant.
Sun 02/09/01 at 02:17
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I think there are 2 reasons why people do this. One is heinsecurity theory, and the other is the simple reason that the person is an @$$hole and nothing can be done about him. You can go into th psycology(sp) of it, but thats what it basically boils down to.
Sun 02/09/01 at 01:18
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See, if you joke about with your mates, that's different, you can tell the difference between a joke and a genuinely hurtful comment.

Me and my mob are continously laughing at each other and making jokes - but they are jokes. I'm well-known for getting childishly wound-up about things and they let me know it.
But at the end of the day, I know if I had any problems, I could go to them.
It's never mean spirited.

I was saying to Ant about this, I think people put others down to make up for the fact they have low self-esteem.
Can't take responsibility for the choices they made with their life, unhappy with their station and feel the need to appear big and clever.
And the easiest way to do that is to put someone else down.

It's wrong, but it will never end.
All I can do is to make sure that I never put someone down for any other reason than they are acting stupidly.
I admit when I'm wrong, or dont know something and I dont feel the need to pretend I do.
Sun 02/09/01 at 00:46
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I like it when people give me 'constructive crititism', it makes me realise were I have gone wrong and what I can do to correct it! But I don't like it when someone is seriously annoying you, it can be very hurtful and it can easily be taken in the wrong manner. Normally I pass these things on as jokes, but sometimes when I get insulted big-time, I do not appriciate it, and I'm willing to bet, not many other people are either.
Sat 01/09/01 at 22:59
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Nowadays being able to be insulted by friends is a sign of affection. But if it's about some personal defect that they can't help then I think that's completely out of order. Especially if it's their birthday. Basically, I think you should have a word with Boy2, one on one that is, and tell him what an a-hole he is. To me he sounds like a nasty bully who puts people down becuase he's a) Insecure about himself b) a nasty person and c) He has the need for attention.

If not for you Ant and to help your confidence problem (I also have a similar problem to that by the way), then do it for your friend. It's not fair on him and it shouldn't happen.
Sat 01/09/01 at 22:46
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Ba†is†u†a wrote:
> I dont stay friends with anyone that rips the .p**s out of me. Ture
> friends would never fo that anyway. If its just said in a joking
> manner its okay, but even jokes can hurt sometimes. when its one on
> one, i notice that the mick taking is less. Its only in groups that
> it is worse.

Yes, that's very true as well. People are more 'confident' when there's others around them.
Sat 01/09/01 at 22:33
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I dont stay friends with anyone that rips the .p**s out of me. Ture friends would never fo that anyway. If its just said in a joking manner its okay, but even jokes can hurt sometimes. when its one on one, i notice that the mick taking is less. Its only in groups that it is worse.
Sat 01/09/01 at 22:16
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It's interesting. I have a good mate, he takes the mick out of me and I take the mick out of him. We understand it's a joke and we are only messing about.

But that story is going too far. He seems a nice bloke and doesn't deserve the treatment he recieved.

I believe people are horrible to each other for the same reason as Goatboy. They are insecure about themselves or they want attention.
Sat 01/09/01 at 21:52
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Okay, when you read this post you may think that I reckon I'm a saint or something, but you'd be wrong. I'm far from it, although I like to think of myself as a good person-or a better person since I became a christian.

Anyway, I'd like to tell you a small story. A couple of nights ago I went to McDonalds and the Cinema for 2 of my friends joint-birthday part. They both invited about 3 people each.

Now, the person who invited me is the person who helped me to get baptised. He is also...to put it blatently, rather fat-not that it's really his fault. He tries hard to lose it, but nothing seems to work. In our little group of friends, we take the mickey out of eachother quite a lot, and he is normally the target. From now on, we'll call him Boy1.

As it was partly his birthday, I thought, "Well hopefully they'll leave off him tonight. Hopefully they'll be nice."

We got there and went into McDonalds, everything seemed fine. I went and took a seat with 1 other friend. Then, while Boy1 was ordering, Boy2 (the person who takes the mick out of him the most,) came up to my table, sat down, and invited everyone else to sit their, saying, "Make boy1 sit on his own!"

Fortunately, Boy1 sat with one other person on his table, but I still thought it was unfair. He seemed happy enough, but I am disappointed with myself for not going and sitting with him.

Boy1 had said earlier he was gonna get a DVD Player. He didn't in the end, and Boy2 purposefully asked him if he got it. Boy1 said no, and Boy2 sniggered, along with a few of the others.

Then we went onto the cinema. As we went up the steps to our seats, I checked that Boy1 was sitting in the middle of a few people. He was. I sat down between 2 people, looked to my right, and was surprised to see Boy1 sitting at the end of our group-I wasn't sure how that happened. He seemed happy though, and he was sitting to probably the funniest member of our group, but I still feel annoyed that I didn't offer my seat to him...should I have?? I'm not sure, to be honest...

As the movie went on, and afterwards, a few more jokes were cracked about him, most behind his back. I was really annoyed, and felt like saying something but as some of you, I am very unconfident as a person, and I just didn't have the courage. Inside I was thinking, "What's the point?? Why can't you just leave him for once!?"

So, what is the point of this topic?? It's basically the heading, why are people horrible to each other?? I asked Goatboy this question that very night, and he told me something which I also believe it's true. It's because by insulting others, people can feel better about themselves. He also said it's a way of denying that you've mucked up your life.

This topic reminds me of what John Coffey said in the Green Mile, about how every hurtful comments, every bad thing anyone did felt like something sharp piercing him (a bit like that, anyway, I can't remember what he said exactly,) and on that night, I felt the same way.

As I said, I'm not perfect, FAR from it. I've insulted enough people in my time, although mostly jokingly. Yeah, it's okay to take the mick a little, and as long as it's only a little joke, but to do it at their birthday party really gets to me...

I would like to hear your views on this subject.

Thanks for reading, Ant.

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