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Mon 27/08/01 at 13:25
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Smoking. Why do we smoke? I don’t smoke, but that doesn’t make me any better than someone who does choose to smoke, although I would assume that all being well, I’d live longer, lead a healthier life than someone who does smoke. There are those who smoke, those who don’t and those who only smoke at social events and in public houses, often to try and fit in with the rest of the crowd.

Why do people still choose to ignore the warnings and continue with this ‘filthy’ habit? There are groups of people that want you to smoke, and groups that don’t. In my life I’ve often walked past a group of youngsters, no more than around 13 years of age – smoking and pressuring one of the group members that haven’t yet succumbed to the cancer drug, and making him smoke, something that could ruin his/her life. Why do they do this? Is it so they don’t feel uncomfortable with a ‘non smoker’ hanging around with them, supposedly thinking he’s better than them?

Smoking is no longer cool. When cigarettes first really came into their own, the effects of smoking were not yet fully known, or at least couldn’t be proven by those with sceptical eyes, and many people smoked, it was a fashion accessory, something to do, something to waste your money upon, and ignorance was shared between the world, but not so now. People know the dangers, but they will continue smoking, they won’t listen to anyone else’s viewpoint – it’s they’re decision, or is it?

Nicotine is the drug found in tobacco, which makes smokers become addicted to smoking, it’s one of the most addictive drugs freely available and it won’t let you quit without a fight – giving up smoking is one of the hardest things to give up in life, I have to give respect to those who at least attempt to give up, and more so to those who do and succeed, going on to live a healthier, richer and more prosperous life. You may not want to give up, could that just be the nicotine talking?

I have friends that smoke, and they’re many smokers who are decent people, and in a way that makes it harder for me and others who don’t smoke – they’re intelligent, but it’s just hard to watch them wasting their money and more importantly, their lives, away. You see some right scruffy looking characters, notably tramps, who smoke, drink and I have no sympathy for them – they beg all day, probably get around £30 a day from the charity or stupidity of passers by, (sorry, ‘ignorance’ would be a more polite word), and then what do these beggars do? Spend on cigs and alcohol. They’re the lowest end of society in this country, they’re effectively death walking. It’s a shame to see a human being, someone of the same species as myself, come to this. I suppose it’s our fault as much as theirs.

The government don’t want you to quit. Cigarette taxation brings in so much money for the government – only a small percentage of this money is spent on treatment for illness and disease brought from smoking, so smokers are keeping the government happy, but there must be another way. In some countries though, I cannot remember which, but there was a news article about it recently, there government was actively encouraging people to smoke, as it brought in so much money for them through the tax on a ‘packet of fags’. Immoral, but effective – what is the world coming too.

So you smoke, you’ve read my thoughts and you think I’m a stuck up non-smoker who can’t stand the sight of you. You’re wrong, you may have a strong mind, but just not at the time you started smoking – is there really anyone who wants to have a premature death and serious health problems in life? Some people enjoy smoking. This I find hard to accept, and I don’t like the way these people broadcast their enjoyment of the addiction, it could influence others, but if someone does not want to give up, what can you do? Nobody has the right to dictate what another person does in life & smoking is legal, for those 16 and over 16, I will never smoke, I know the risk.

I hear of an old lady, around 80 years + I would say, she’s got 3 days to live – she’s suffering so much, I can even hear her coughing next door, she smoked, this is not the way to die. The thing that troubles me is that her granddaughter and grandson in law whom she lives with can see the pain she’s going through, and yet they do not even think about giving up smoking – they have a young daughter, she’s having to inhale everything, they’ll no doubt suffer from something, but it’s just not my place to say give up smoking. I could try, asking ‘why do you smoke?’ and see what happens, but I just don’t think it’d have any effect.

Whether you smoke or you don’t, you have a choice. Everyone has a mind, some people are mentally stronger than others, some people will not be affected by someone else’s pressurising, some will. Smoking is foul disgusting and has an awful aroma, it’s a filthy habit that I would not tolerate in my home, but the people that smoke - most people that smoke are good honest people. I have friends that smoke. I have friends that don’t. We’re not all perfect - in fact if there were a perfect person, we’d know about it. You pay your money & you buy a packet of cigarettes – just as you usually do, but just think every time you spend out on something that will kill you. Think.

Thanks.

I hope I have not offended anyone.

ICEFIRE.
Mon 27/08/01 at 20:46
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Mon 27/08/01 at 20:19
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Posts: 3,673
The reason people say it calms the nerves is because it kills the craving to have one, I've smoked lightly on and off for about a year and a half and have come to my senses to give up.

Most Smokers know the risk but what people don't realise is that is will ruin your lungs. The reason I started is not because some of my friends do, it's something to do like drink coffee or chat. I don't know how some people consider smoking "cool" and after some time of not smoking i can see how foul and unatractive it is.

I got something caught in my throat one day and started coughing, I couldn't believe how weasy I sounded, I scared myself into stopping and I'm so thankfull, It's tar from smoking which was causing me to wease but now I've stopped smoking i feel much happier and healthier. My lungs are getting stronger, I can breathe far better and have more money in my pocket.

People say Smoking is a sign of weakness but does that mean every non-smoker is hercules, no some of them are wise and have no interest and some just follow the crowd. I wish I'd stopped sooner but it's never too late to stop and my advice to any smokers just stop now, not tommorow, now and you'll be thankful that you did.

Res
Mon 27/08/01 at 14:00
Posts: 0
Some say it 'Calms the nerves'.

Does it?

Maybe just destroys them, I don't know, thanks for replying.
Mon 27/08/01 at 13:48
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"I am your father"
Posts: 537
I thought your topic was extremely mature and a very serious point of view. Both my parents smoke along with my brother who started like you said around the age of 13. Now here I am in the middle of all of this trying to play sports and becoming out of breathe a lot quicker than I used to. I go on and on at them and they still don't stop. Now what I want to know is, how can something bad for you and ruining your health, make you want to take more of it. Ok it's addicted, them that just says all smokers are all weak and don't have the power to quit smoking. All my family admit they don't enjoy it but they 'Have' to have one.

Your topic is worthy of a FAD without a doubt and I hope you get it.
Mon 27/08/01 at 13:25
Posts: 0
Smoking. Why do we smoke? I don’t smoke, but that doesn’t make me any better than someone who does choose to smoke, although I would assume that all being well, I’d live longer, lead a healthier life than someone who does smoke. There are those who smoke, those who don’t and those who only smoke at social events and in public houses, often to try and fit in with the rest of the crowd.

Why do people still choose to ignore the warnings and continue with this ‘filthy’ habit? There are groups of people that want you to smoke, and groups that don’t. In my life I’ve often walked past a group of youngsters, no more than around 13 years of age – smoking and pressuring one of the group members that haven’t yet succumbed to the cancer drug, and making him smoke, something that could ruin his/her life. Why do they do this? Is it so they don’t feel uncomfortable with a ‘non smoker’ hanging around with them, supposedly thinking he’s better than them?

Smoking is no longer cool. When cigarettes first really came into their own, the effects of smoking were not yet fully known, or at least couldn’t be proven by those with sceptical eyes, and many people smoked, it was a fashion accessory, something to do, something to waste your money upon, and ignorance was shared between the world, but not so now. People know the dangers, but they will continue smoking, they won’t listen to anyone else’s viewpoint – it’s they’re decision, or is it?

Nicotine is the drug found in tobacco, which makes smokers become addicted to smoking, it’s one of the most addictive drugs freely available and it won’t let you quit without a fight – giving up smoking is one of the hardest things to give up in life, I have to give respect to those who at least attempt to give up, and more so to those who do and succeed, going on to live a healthier, richer and more prosperous life. You may not want to give up, could that just be the nicotine talking?

I have friends that smoke, and they’re many smokers who are decent people, and in a way that makes it harder for me and others who don’t smoke – they’re intelligent, but it’s just hard to watch them wasting their money and more importantly, their lives, away. You see some right scruffy looking characters, notably tramps, who smoke, drink and I have no sympathy for them – they beg all day, probably get around £30 a day from the charity or stupidity of passers by, (sorry, ‘ignorance’ would be a more polite word), and then what do these beggars do? Spend on cigs and alcohol. They’re the lowest end of society in this country, they’re effectively death walking. It’s a shame to see a human being, someone of the same species as myself, come to this. I suppose it’s our fault as much as theirs.

The government don’t want you to quit. Cigarette taxation brings in so much money for the government – only a small percentage of this money is spent on treatment for illness and disease brought from smoking, so smokers are keeping the government happy, but there must be another way. In some countries though, I cannot remember which, but there was a news article about it recently, there government was actively encouraging people to smoke, as it brought in so much money for them through the tax on a ‘packet of fags’. Immoral, but effective – what is the world coming too.

So you smoke, you’ve read my thoughts and you think I’m a stuck up non-smoker who can’t stand the sight of you. You’re wrong, you may have a strong mind, but just not at the time you started smoking – is there really anyone who wants to have a premature death and serious health problems in life? Some people enjoy smoking. This I find hard to accept, and I don’t like the way these people broadcast their enjoyment of the addiction, it could influence others, but if someone does not want to give up, what can you do? Nobody has the right to dictate what another person does in life & smoking is legal, for those 16 and over 16, I will never smoke, I know the risk.

I hear of an old lady, around 80 years + I would say, she’s got 3 days to live – she’s suffering so much, I can even hear her coughing next door, she smoked, this is not the way to die. The thing that troubles me is that her granddaughter and grandson in law whom she lives with can see the pain she’s going through, and yet they do not even think about giving up smoking – they have a young daughter, she’s having to inhale everything, they’ll no doubt suffer from something, but it’s just not my place to say give up smoking. I could try, asking ‘why do you smoke?’ and see what happens, but I just don’t think it’d have any effect.

Whether you smoke or you don’t, you have a choice. Everyone has a mind, some people are mentally stronger than others, some people will not be affected by someone else’s pressurising, some will. Smoking is foul disgusting and has an awful aroma, it’s a filthy habit that I would not tolerate in my home, but the people that smoke - most people that smoke are good honest people. I have friends that smoke. I have friends that don’t. We’re not all perfect - in fact if there were a perfect person, we’d know about it. You pay your money & you buy a packet of cigarettes – just as you usually do, but just think every time you spend out on something that will kill you. Think.

Thanks.

I hope I have not offended anyone.

ICEFIRE.

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