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What is it with Konami and the way they represent women in their games?
I’m likely to be on my own here, but I was a little disappointed with the end of the ‘MGS2’ demo that came with ‘Z.O.E.’ I understand pregnant women are a reality – even in the armed forces. But do I want to shoot such images? It’s a little bizarre. The original ‘Metal Gear’ contained patronising dialogue between Snakie and the rest of the female characters. And ‘Ring of Red’ (which I’m kinda enjoying) displays a terrible respect for the female form.
Look, you buy a game like ‘Dead or Alive 2’ and you get what you see. It does exactly what it says on the tin.
This is /not/ a GaD entry…
I’m just having a rant!
I’m likely to be on my own here, but I was a little disappointed with the end of the ‘MGS2’ demo that came with ‘Z.O.E.’ I understand pregnant women are a reality – even in the armed forces. But do I want to shoot such images? It’s a little bizarre. The original ‘Metal Gear’ contained patronising dialogue between Snakie and the rest of the female characters. And ‘Ring of Red’ (which I’m kinda enjoying) displays a terrible respect for the female form.
Look, you buy a game like ‘Dead or Alive 2’ and you get what you see. It does exactly what it says on the tin.
This is /not/ a GaD entry…
I’m just having a rant!
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What can you say, they're Japanese!
why do you think these games are mostly 18+? to prevent any disturbing images from kiddies and I REALLY WISH that game producers would keep things that may be cut, edited or even banned very close to their chest until it's release so stressed out Mom's don't write millions of letters to get the game banned.
ARRRRGGHHHH they do me head in!!!!!!
ARRRRGGHHHH they do me head in!!!!!!
Rain and I wrote:
> I understand pregnant women are a reality – even in the armed
> forces. But do I want to shoot such images?
Keep it in context, though. I haven't played the demo for a while, but if I recall correctly, Snake doesn't *know* that she's pregnant when he kills her.
Even if I'm wrong and he does, then there's still a context - if some nutty woman was shooting at me, I'd damn well shoot back!
It's also part of the emotional context of the game, too. You can clearly see in the final scenes that Snake is not happy with having killed a woman - whether he knew she was pregnant or not.
> I understand pregnant women are a reality – even in the armed
> forces. But do I want to shoot such images?
Keep it in context, though. I haven't played the demo for a while, but if I recall correctly, Snake doesn't *know* that she's pregnant when he kills her.
Even if I'm wrong and he does, then there's still a context - if some nutty woman was shooting at me, I'd damn well shoot back!
It's also part of the emotional context of the game, too. You can clearly see in the final scenes that Snake is not happy with having killed a woman - whether he knew she was pregnant or not.
You could take issue with the way women are portrayed in games in the same way as violence is portrayed in games. Duke Nukem was portrayed as revelling in violence, but it's a game, he's allowed to do that. It wouldn't be as much fun if he went around with a guilt complex everytime he wasted an alien.
So if Konami bring out games in which women are portrayed as being treated like dirt, I can't take issue with that either. Games aren't there to mimic real life, they are there to mimic fantasy scenarios in which we can fool around and live out our dreams. Most of all we are there to have fun.
Metal Gear Solid isn't actually a good example. Although Snake didn't show Meryl and Mei Ling the greatest of respect, he was a hardened warrior, not a gentleman, and Konami did actually portray Snake's and Meryl's relationship as a close and meaningful one towards the end of the game.
Unless you did the Otacon ending, in which case he had a close and meaningful relationship with him instead. Go figure, those whacky Japanese programmers eh?
Anyway, I thought women liked being treated like that?
So if Konami bring out games in which women are portrayed as being treated like dirt, I can't take issue with that either. Games aren't there to mimic real life, they are there to mimic fantasy scenarios in which we can fool around and live out our dreams. Most of all we are there to have fun.
Metal Gear Solid isn't actually a good example. Although Snake didn't show Meryl and Mei Ling the greatest of respect, he was a hardened warrior, not a gentleman, and Konami did actually portray Snake's and Meryl's relationship as a close and meaningful one towards the end of the game.
Unless you did the Otacon ending, in which case he had a close and meaningful relationship with him instead. Go figure, those whacky Japanese programmers eh?
Anyway, I thought women liked being treated like that?
vigilante9 wrote:
> what time does he update the list of winners at the moment ?
Used to be 6pm but I think it's after midnight at the moment.
> what time does he update the list of winners at the moment ?
Used to be 6pm but I think it's after midnight at the moment.
well, I thought it was AFTER the day is over... so that everyone who posts on that day can win...
i might be wrong... never pay attention to the list myself!
i might be wrong... never pay attention to the list myself!
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