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Wed 11/02/04 at 11:21
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It will be out as Ninty originally planned in 2006/7, with PS3 & Xbox 2 out in 2005/6, so prehaps just 12 months behind them.

Gamespot quote:

Nintendo unveiling next-gen console at E3 2005

Japanese game giant refutes reports the GameCube's successor is on hold.

TOKYO--Nintendo announced today that it will be releasing its next-generation console as originally planned, contradicting yesterday's Nihon Keizai Shimbun article that said Nintendo is postponing its plans to release a next-generation console. A report in the Mainichi Daily also revealed that Nintendo will be unveiling its next-generation console at E3 next year (in 2005).

According to Bloomberg Japan, Reuters, and various other publications, Nintendo's public relations chief Yasuhiro Minagawa said that Nintendo is still planning to release a next-generation console to succeed the GameCube in the same period as its competitors.

Referring to the recent Report by the Nihon Keizai Shimbun that Nintendo will be postponing the release of a next-generation console, Minagawa commented that, "It was supposed to mean that Sony and Microsoft are expected to release their next-generation consoles from 2005 to 2006, and we also won't be releasing one until that period." This echoed a statement given to GameSpot yesterday by Nintendo of America's director of corporate communications, Beth Llewellyn, who said that the Nikkei’s report was erroneous and based on "a lot of speculation."

Bloomberg Japan reports that Nintendo saw its late start in the current console wars as one of the reasons why GameCube sales fell behind the PlayStation 2's. In order to compete, out of the gate, with the next Xbox and the PlayStation 3, Nintendo says it is already developing a next-generation graphics processor with NEC and ATI Technology. ATI Technology is Nintendo’s current manufacturer of graphic chips for the GameCube console, which utilizes a DRAM process technology from NEC. Nintendo is developing its next-generation console's CPU in conjunction with IBM, who is also helping to develop the next Xbox CPU, in addition to the Cell processor that will be used in the PS3.

Nintendo also confirmed that new peripherals for the GameCube console will be released in 2005, but these will not affect the next-generation console's release. While no details on the devices have been revealed, Nintendo says the peripherals will expand the capabilities of the GameCube. Furthermore, Nintendo will release new games that will take advantage of them.
Thu 12/02/04 at 00:04
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If it's not powerful enough to handle Xbox games, even without optimisation, then MS have failed big time! :-D



By the by, notice how they've gone to the same people who made the key parts to the Gamecube. I think MS must've been pretty embarrased to see Starfox Adventures running on hardware that cost a fraction of the Xbox's production costs! :-D
Wed 11/02/04 at 23:55
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At the moment they say it won't be.

They are moving from a very slightly modified Intel Pentium 3 to an IBM PowerPC processor (like in the Macs) and from Nvidia to ATI.

However there is also rumours that they will just build in emulation software as there would certainly be plenty power for it.
Wed 11/02/04 at 23:53
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Hehe!

So much for Nintendo "not competing" and being in a market of their own.
That was just their excuse for being pasted by the PS2! :-D



Will the new Xbox be backwards compatable?

If so, if I was to look into a next generation console, that one might just be it. Having said that, at the rate I'm going off games, come 2006...
Wed 11/02/04 at 23:49
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I get the point about not making full use of the consoles power, but for the Xbox and PS2, they are being pushed to their limits.

Even if Nintendo never need that much, even if all the need is what the Gaemcube can provide just now, they still have to keep people buying Gamecubes and games.

It gets to the stage where image becomes a part of it as well. Few people would go out and buy a Playstation now because they are so old. Because there is something newer, and therefore "better", people want it. Because of that Nintendo have to have new products to compete with the Xbox 2 and PS3. Other wise people will buy them instead and just sort of give up on the Gamecube.
Wed 11/02/04 at 23:43
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Why the care about the next generation.

NO ONE has made full use of the current generation's power yet.


I remember getting excited about the Gamecube because I could see the N64's limitations, and what Rare and Nintendo COULD (but haven't yet, damn them!) do with more power (and online but they didn't do that either! :-D).


As far as I can see, I couldn't pick out ANY technical improvements in their current games. They play as smoothly as anything, with the sweetest, slickest, most intuitive controls, sharp colourful graphics and practically no slowdown whatsoever.

The only issues I've had is the content of the games - the level designs and gameplay idea's.



I can see why Sony and MS are geared up for more power because with their extensive large scale online plans, they need it, but the Gamecube can handle everything Nintendo wants to offer for now.
Wed 11/02/04 at 19:53
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Nintendo don't learn from mistakes. It's as simple as that.

There's no point in releasing the N5 behind the PS3 and Xbox 2, just because Sony and Microsoft are both companies who like to advertise a lot, and by the time the N5 is out, there won't be many homes left for the N5 to be able to get into. And if the prices for both PS3 and Xbox 2 are as high as estimated, money for the N5 will be scarce too.

Nintendo can't fall behind again. They need to get it right with the N5, but by releasing it following the competition is basically stabbing themselves in the back.
Wed 11/02/04 at 15:39
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Nintendo have admitted in the past that one of the reasons the N64 was not as successful as the Playstation was that it was released to late. They have since said the same regarding the Gamecube.

It makes no sense to be later than the competition again.
Wed 11/02/04 at 15:11
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Valentino Rossi wrote:
> no it's not ideal but by waiting until then they will be able to
> "copy" any of the good points of the PS3/XB2.

Not really. Even a year later would be too late to see the products, copy them, produce your own model etc, and then mass produce it.

Nintendo need to be either the first console out, or soonish release after the others, or it will be DOOOOOMED!

:)
Wed 11/02/04 at 13:48
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It's a Ninty press release so they won't "promote" the other two, but belief is that Sony and M$ will try and get consoles out for Xmas 2005 or early 2006.

Ninty won't be first.
Wed 11/02/04 at 13:15
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Where does it state that Nintendo will release their console after the PS3/Xbox 2?

All it states is that it'll be launched within the same period.

So it could be before the other consoles!

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