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Sat 28/02/04 at 10:27
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"Redness Returneth"
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Which one do you think is better?

I prefer Fifa 2004, which is probably the opposite answer of what many people will reply with.
Sun 07/03/04 at 20:37
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"sdomehtongng"
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J'T wrote:
> I've scored like a bicycle kick almost every game recently.

Quite an achievement, it has to be said.

> The fouls/ refereeing are POO POO
> Free kicks are crap.
> The team names/kits/player names are embarrasing

Yes, the refereeing can be annoying at times, however the free kicks are far from crap. You just have to master the system, and you will get better by practice. Unlike FIFA, where you just have to have good eye-hand co-ordination to line-up a bar. Pfft. Primitive. The teams that are licensed are good, and some geezer from Konami said they're planning on having all clubs licensed in PES4. The names are fine, though - all the main players are there, and who cares if a couple of Saudi Arabia players have the wrong name?

> You can't seem to bend them in top corner just hit across the ball,
> smashing it.

Don't run and shoot at the same time - slow to a jog. Then curl it yourself.

> I seldom score volleys outside the area.

And this is a common feature in real football?

> THE GOALKEEPERS ARE........
>
> Worst Goalkeeps I've seen in a game.

Your opinion, but in comparison to other games, they're actually the best. They might be the worst, but they're the most realistic, anyway. They can't magically dive from one side of the goal to the other to prevent a rocket shot (FIFA and Club Football), and keepers in real football fumble the ball occasionally as well.
Sat 06/03/04 at 20:48
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"es argh"
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J'T wrote:
> I've scored like a bicycle kick almost every game recently.

Absolute Balls

Scissor kicks Maybe



> The fouls/ refereeing are POO POO

Yes

> Free kicks are crap.

Nope, is and has always been the best free kick system, simple yet still reliant on pure skill, maybe Fifa's direct it and let the game do the work suits your lack of skill if you find PES too hard?

> The team names/kits/player names are embarrasing

Erm, my patched version is better than Fifa. Depends how involved you want to be, if you're gonna sit and be mardy, then, yes, they don't sdpend all their money on advertising/liscenses and none on the game, like Fifa.

> You can't seem to bend them in top corner just hit across the ball,
> smashing it.

Depends on the player. This stops defenders curling 30 yard screamers which curl from toward the corner flag to going in off the post.

> I seldom score volleys outside the area.

Yeah, I know what you mean, because I scored 9 volleys outside the box today and 33 gajillion overhead kicks yesterday.

> THE GOALKEEPERS ARE........
>
> Worst Goalkeeps I've seen in a game.

can have their moments of insanity but I've seen loads of top class saves from some pretty poo keepers.
Sat 06/03/04 at 20:33
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"The Red Shift"
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Virtuoso wrote:
> Badgerman wrote:
>
> To do a volley from a ball crossed in your meant to hit Square
> twice.
> -------------------
>
> I didn't even realise that!
>
> Cheers, I'll try that later =P

also it helps trying to run away from the ball then doing it so you meet it lower down for a volley.

as for overheads, try running past the cross and then tapping, because that helps stop him head and actually do a bicycle.

also, you can set yourself up for screaming volleys by doing an okocha flick and then shooting.



******

on a separate note. i dont have fifa 04, but from my experience of 03 and pes3 means that neither have "true difficulty" as i call it. basically, the higher level you play at, is shammed against you, by you being pollocks. it's not the oppo being tactically brilliant, or ball control wizards. it's just simply rediculously good keepers and them screwing your passes.

i agree with whoever said pes3 keepers are shocking, however it is definitely "the best".
Sat 06/03/04 at 19:48
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on iss64, u could run up to a player and hit them, if the camara was not on your player then the ref nether saw it, class.
used to do that to the goaly all the time, then get a 50 yard goal.
also funny, playing multiplayer, running up and knocking over your buddy, who also happened to be on the same team as you.
Sat 06/03/04 at 17:59
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"Notable"
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I've scored like a bicycle kick almost every game recently.

The fouls/ refereeing are POO POO
Free kicks are crap.
The team names/kits/player names are embarrasing

You can't seem to bend them in top corner just hit across the ball, smashing it.

I seldom score volleys outside the area.

THE GOALKEEPERS ARE........

Worst Goalkeeps I've seen in a game.
Sat 06/03/04 at 17:55
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"5 European Cups!!!"
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Badgerman wrote:

To do a volley from a ball crossed in your meant to hit Square twice.
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I didn't even realise that!

Cheers, I'll try that later =P
Sat 06/03/04 at 16:22
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"es argh"
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Legendary Link wrote:
> i love pro evo now, but i used to quite enjoy a good old bash on
> international superstar soccer sixty four.

ISS64 ruled

I always remember a goal from the half way line I scored against my brother :D

If only I could've saved it...
Sat 06/03/04 at 16:21
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"es argh"
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Virtuoso wrote:

>
> This looks like a good time to ask for tips on how to do it, so can
> anyone help me?

To do a volley from a ball crossed in your meant to hit Square twice.
Sat 06/03/04 at 16:20
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"es argh"
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Wakka wrote:
> Badgerman wrote:
> JTª wrote:
> There are far to many bicycle/overhead kicks scored on Pro. Still
> the
> best though.
>
>
> I've played All the Pro Evo/ISS games made by Konami Tokyo and have
> only scored 1 bicycle kick.
>
> Maybe scissor kicks?
>
> I've scored about 15 bicycle kicks in PES2.

Maybe on 1*
Sat 06/03/04 at 14:28
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Wakka wrote:

I've scored about 15 bicycle kicks in PES2.
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I haven't scored one bicycle kick. In fact, I don't think my players have even attempted one :-/

When the ball is about 15-20 yards out (from a corner) for example, he'll still try and header it.

This looks like a good time to ask for tips on how to do it, so can anyone help me?

(P.S, I'm still the best at this game, I just don't use bicycle kicks for my dominant victories =P )

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