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Wed 08/08/01 at 00:28
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But wait! Put those pitchforks down! Someone restrain Dringo! Nintendo ARE childish, but this is a GOOD thing.

So, OK then. Not childish you say? Well, I’m inclined to disagree. Look at the launch line up. Luigi’s Mansion, Pikmin, Super Smash Brothers Melee, Star Fox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet and Super Monkey Ball. But, I’m not confusing childish for either gameplay or simplicity. All these games will probably by immensely playable and great fun for all the ages, but they are aimed towards the younger gamers out their. But this is a really good idea.

Reason 1: Competition. I think you’ll agree Sony have the older market pretty much wrapped up. The PlayStation really appeals to the casual gamer and the clubbers, and these audiences don’t want to see a short kid with pointy ears running through a forest defeating mushrooms with a sword and a wooden shield. They want exhilaration, they want music, they want violence. Shallow they may be, but they contribute a hell of a lot to the global games market and Sony knows this. Then there’s Microsoft as well. God knows what they’re aiming for but it certainly isn’t the younger market and this is where Nintendo come in. There is also a huge market for younger/family games, and Nintendo well and truly own this. No one comes close. This market is almost as big as Sony’s, because it includes ages 6-14, older as well (for people who like that sort of thing) but also (and here’s the beauty of it) families. Yes, families. Think about it. Husband, wife, 3 kids, but one of them is 6 months old. They want a games console, but they want something everyone can enjoy. Sony is an upbeat company and might be unsuitable for young Timmy “impressionable” Gamer. You ask any child owning family what their first choice of console would be and you’d get Nintendo straight back. Meka_Dragon is a prime example.

Reason 2: Image. Now, we all know Nintendo is trying to reach out to Joe “casual” Public these days with games like Eternal Darkness and Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron 2 but if you ask me, this is suicide. Nintendo have a very clean image and young kids and families mainly buy the consoles. Now the thing is, if Nintendo was to release more of these older games, they’d become a kind of wandering spirit. You see, if there were more games like Eternal Darkness, then appeal with families and kids might drop. Parents might refuse to buy it or there might just not be enough suitable games. This doesn’t work the other way though, as the casual gamers probably won’t be swayed towards Nintendo as they’d still retain some of their past reputation and Sony will always have more choice and a better image. This leaves Nintendo with a problem as they’ve not only failed to capture a share of Sony’s market but they’ve lost part of their own, and knowing Sony they’d probably fill the gap sharpish.

Reason 3: The “weeing against the wind” reason. Sure, Nintendo can produce the odd frightener and FPS, and usually they’re quite good but there’s just not enough. They might pour resources into this kind of thing but they churn out one every few months whereas Sony chucks them out on a regular basis. This “ages” Nintendo’s image for a short time but invariably another kiddy game will come out next month and kind of resets the counter. Gradually, their image has got better over time but not by very much and it all just begs the question “what is the point?” Nintendo are releasing these games and although they sell well with the upper limits of their markets, the younger ones and the sacred families probably won’t buy them. I’m not sure but I’m willing to bet Meka either doesn’t have Perfect Dark or doesn’t let his children play it.

Reason 4: Stick to what you’re good at. OK, Nintendo games are childish but they’re pretty damn good (allegedly). I’ve heard loads and loads of good reports on the likes of Mario, Zelda, and all the other games out there. Yes, they’re kiddy but they’re immensely playable with hours of good clean fun. This is fine, and I don’t see the problem. We call them kiddy and childish, but that’s not the same as saying they’re bad. Pokémon, arguably the most childish of all Nintendo’s creations, was a great game (the first time round) and amazingly addictive. Look at the phenomenal success of it. 6 year olds all over the country were going mad over this large yellow rat and raiding parent’s bank accounts until they had to take out loans. Meanwhile, Nintendo are so happy it’s like someone had let off a Marijuana bomb.

So, in the end, Nintendo are childish but that’s a really good thing and Nintendo fans shouldn’t be ashamed of this. The style of Nintendo’s games doesn’t appeal to everyone but that’s just a side effect of being one of the most successful games companies in the world. Sony and Nintendo aren’t rivals as such, because they’re not fighting over the same patch. The both have their ground and more or less stick to it. Sony isn’t going to take over Nintendo’s market and Nintendo likewise. That’s just the way it is and I think we should all be really happy it’s like that.

Thanks for reading
-Turbonutter
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:28
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Posts: 14,156
But wait! Put those pitchforks down! Someone restrain Dringo! Nintendo ARE childish, but this is a GOOD thing.

So, OK then. Not childish you say? Well, I’m inclined to disagree. Look at the launch line up. Luigi’s Mansion, Pikmin, Super Smash Brothers Melee, Star Fox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet and Super Monkey Ball. But, I’m not confusing childish for either gameplay or simplicity. All these games will probably by immensely playable and great fun for all the ages, but they are aimed towards the younger gamers out their. But this is a really good idea.

Reason 1: Competition. I think you’ll agree Sony have the older market pretty much wrapped up. The PlayStation really appeals to the casual gamer and the clubbers, and these audiences don’t want to see a short kid with pointy ears running through a forest defeating mushrooms with a sword and a wooden shield. They want exhilaration, they want music, they want violence. Shallow they may be, but they contribute a hell of a lot to the global games market and Sony knows this. Then there’s Microsoft as well. God knows what they’re aiming for but it certainly isn’t the younger market and this is where Nintendo come in. There is also a huge market for younger/family games, and Nintendo well and truly own this. No one comes close. This market is almost as big as Sony’s, because it includes ages 6-14, older as well (for people who like that sort of thing) but also (and here’s the beauty of it) families. Yes, families. Think about it. Husband, wife, 3 kids, but one of them is 6 months old. They want a games console, but they want something everyone can enjoy. Sony is an upbeat company and might be unsuitable for young Timmy “impressionable” Gamer. You ask any child owning family what their first choice of console would be and you’d get Nintendo straight back. Meka_Dragon is a prime example.

Reason 2: Image. Now, we all know Nintendo is trying to reach out to Joe “casual” Public these days with games like Eternal Darkness and Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron 2 but if you ask me, this is suicide. Nintendo have a very clean image and young kids and families mainly buy the consoles. Now the thing is, if Nintendo was to release more of these older games, they’d become a kind of wandering spirit. You see, if there were more games like Eternal Darkness, then appeal with families and kids might drop. Parents might refuse to buy it or there might just not be enough suitable games. This doesn’t work the other way though, as the casual gamers probably won’t be swayed towards Nintendo as they’d still retain some of their past reputation and Sony will always have more choice and a better image. This leaves Nintendo with a problem as they’ve not only failed to capture a share of Sony’s market but they’ve lost part of their own, and knowing Sony they’d probably fill the gap sharpish.

Reason 3: The “weeing against the wind” reason. Sure, Nintendo can produce the odd frightener and FPS, and usually they’re quite good but there’s just not enough. They might pour resources into this kind of thing but they churn out one every few months whereas Sony chucks them out on a regular basis. This “ages” Nintendo’s image for a short time but invariably another kiddy game will come out next month and kind of resets the counter. Gradually, their image has got better over time but not by very much and it all just begs the question “what is the point?” Nintendo are releasing these games and although they sell well with the upper limits of their markets, the younger ones and the sacred families probably won’t buy them. I’m not sure but I’m willing to bet Meka either doesn’t have Perfect Dark or doesn’t let his children play it.

Reason 4: Stick to what you’re good at. OK, Nintendo games are childish but they’re pretty damn good (allegedly). I’ve heard loads and loads of good reports on the likes of Mario, Zelda, and all the other games out there. Yes, they’re kiddy but they’re immensely playable with hours of good clean fun. This is fine, and I don’t see the problem. We call them kiddy and childish, but that’s not the same as saying they’re bad. Pokémon, arguably the most childish of all Nintendo’s creations, was a great game (the first time round) and amazingly addictive. Look at the phenomenal success of it. 6 year olds all over the country were going mad over this large yellow rat and raiding parent’s bank accounts until they had to take out loans. Meanwhile, Nintendo are so happy it’s like someone had let off a Marijuana bomb.

So, in the end, Nintendo are childish but that’s a really good thing and Nintendo fans shouldn’t be ashamed of this. The style of Nintendo’s games doesn’t appeal to everyone but that’s just a side effect of being one of the most successful games companies in the world. Sony and Nintendo aren’t rivals as such, because they’re not fighting over the same patch. The both have their ground and more or less stick to it. Sony isn’t going to take over Nintendo’s market and Nintendo likewise. That’s just the way it is and I think we should all be really happy it’s like that.

Thanks for reading
-Turbonutter
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:31
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This ties in with my new post coming in an hour or so!
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:35
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Zelda is not a kiddy game.
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:37
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Or†ega wrote:
> Zelda is not a kiddy game.


Urgh...
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:40
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okay, explain to me why zelda is a kiddy game.
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:47
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It's childish on the surface and in concept, but not underneath. I thought I explained the difference in the post.
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:49
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yes yes yes, but i dont believe that it has a kiddy shell. More of an open to all ages type.
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:52
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Oh, whatever.
Wed 08/08/01 at 00:53
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okay.
Wed 08/08/01 at 01:02
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Zelda doesn't look childish!!!! It is very much all ages in looks as is Final Fantasy.

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