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There have been many piracy discusions on here since I joined. I even won for a post about it. So why do It again? I feel I have a little more to talk about than last time.
Piracy is a huge problem for all the major software companies, more and more seem to be lured into buying copies of games from £5 to £15 which is alot cheaper that the real thing. So why do they do it. Simple why pay £35 for something when you can get the same game without the box, manual and official disk for an extra £20. People don't care about the companies it effects as the big companies don't seem to care about them. What have they ever done for us?
What they have done is made a game for you to play.
There many out there who disagree with piracy and think its wrong, but how many of you would think twice before copying a CD for a friend or downloading an MP3. In principal these are just as bad as games piracy.
These days it costs around £3 million to make an average game, better ones cost more. Alot of sales are lost due to piracy but developers still get quite alot of money, if they didn't then they wouldn't continue to make game after game. I think one of the main problems is lack of awareness. Very little is done to let people know just how wrong it is, a quick flash of a warning screen at the start of a game isn't good enough. People need to be warned more of the dangers of piracy and what could happen to them if they are caught selling or buying them.
But with every arguement there is another side to it.
Recently I read that developers want to ban companies from making mod chips, I disagree with this for two reasons.
1. The MOD chip for the PS2 allows you to play mulit-region DVD's something which we should be allowed to do if we wish. You can chip a DVD player to do this legaly so why not a PS2? Also if you buy it surely it is your to do what you want with it, you can upgrade your PC or fiddle with your TV so why can't you open your PS2 and add a MOD chip?
2. Backup disks (Now don't get this confused with pirate copies of games). Legaly you can backup a game if you own the original. But alot of developers are protecting their disks to help combat piracy. Ok so they have to help stop piracy but I don't like this method. Think about this. If you buy a game like GT3 wouldn't you rather copy it and use the backup copy so that if the game accidently gets scratched or damaged then you have another copy of it and you wont have to pay more money for it.
There aren't really any ways of totally getting rid of piracy 100%. As long as someone can create ways of stopping it sooner or later someone will find a way round it. The only real way of stopping it is if society realise that its wrong and everyone stops doing it. But with the way society is that dosn't look like happening. Looks like piracy will always be a continuing problem for developers.
AliBoy
Piracy is a huge problem for all the major software companies, more and more seem to be lured into buying copies of games from £5 to £15 which is alot cheaper that the real thing. So why do they do it. Simple why pay £35 for something when you can get the same game without the box, manual and official disk for an extra £20. People don't care about the companies it effects as the big companies don't seem to care about them. What have they ever done for us?
What they have done is made a game for you to play.
There many out there who disagree with piracy and think its wrong, but how many of you would think twice before copying a CD for a friend or downloading an MP3. In principal these are just as bad as games piracy.
These days it costs around £3 million to make an average game, better ones cost more. Alot of sales are lost due to piracy but developers still get quite alot of money, if they didn't then they wouldn't continue to make game after game. I think one of the main problems is lack of awareness. Very little is done to let people know just how wrong it is, a quick flash of a warning screen at the start of a game isn't good enough. People need to be warned more of the dangers of piracy and what could happen to them if they are caught selling or buying them.
But with every arguement there is another side to it.
Recently I read that developers want to ban companies from making mod chips, I disagree with this for two reasons.
1. The MOD chip for the PS2 allows you to play mulit-region DVD's something which we should be allowed to do if we wish. You can chip a DVD player to do this legaly so why not a PS2? Also if you buy it surely it is your to do what you want with it, you can upgrade your PC or fiddle with your TV so why can't you open your PS2 and add a MOD chip?
2. Backup disks (Now don't get this confused with pirate copies of games). Legaly you can backup a game if you own the original. But alot of developers are protecting their disks to help combat piracy. Ok so they have to help stop piracy but I don't like this method. Think about this. If you buy a game like GT3 wouldn't you rather copy it and use the backup copy so that if the game accidently gets scratched or damaged then you have another copy of it and you wont have to pay more money for it.
There aren't really any ways of totally getting rid of piracy 100%. As long as someone can create ways of stopping it sooner or later someone will find a way round it. The only real way of stopping it is if society realise that its wrong and everyone stops doing it. But with the way society is that dosn't look like happening. Looks like piracy will always be a continuing problem for developers.
AliBoy
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Not as bad as killing people.
The last time I checked on this, Sony were developing a code for their PS2 games so that if a PS2 game was inserted into a chipped PS2 the code would disable the mod chip, thereby preventing you playing it.
Regarding mod chips allowing you to play any region DVD on a PS2, the PS2 internal architecture is patented or copyright or something like that, thereby tampering with the internal structure is illegal. Or something.
I forgot who found the link to the original article but it explained quite clearly why you shouldn't muck around with the insides of a PS2 to make it do something that it wasn't designed to do.
Nintendo's new disc format won't prevent piracy. If they can backup Dreamcast GameDiscs, they can find a way of backing up Nintendo's disc format and distribute illegal copies for £1.00 each on the internet as they do now with illegal Dreamcast game copies.
Piracy, as I always say, is bad.
Regarding mod chips allowing you to play any region DVD on a PS2, the PS2 internal architecture is patented or copyright or something like that, thereby tampering with the internal structure is illegal. Or something.
I forgot who found the link to the original article but it explained quite clearly why you shouldn't muck around with the insides of a PS2 to make it do something that it wasn't designed to do.
Nintendo's new disc format won't prevent piracy. If they can backup Dreamcast GameDiscs, they can find a way of backing up Nintendo's disc format and distribute illegal copies for £1.00 each on the internet as they do now with illegal Dreamcast game copies.
Piracy, as I always say, is bad.
AliBoy wrote:
> But don't you think we should have the rights to backup a game for
> our own personal use, just incase something happens to the original.
> You wouldn't want to have to pay for the game and the developers
> aren't going to replace it.
Yup, just like on the Amiga.
> But don't you think we should have the rights to backup a game for
> our own personal use, just incase something happens to the original.
> You wouldn't want to have to pay for the game and the developers
> aren't going to replace it.
Yup, just like on the Amiga.
Thats up to the police. Developers aren't that worried about people who make a copy for a friend. They are more worried about the people making thousands and selling them as a living. Both are equally wrong but one effects the developers alot more.
i love cartridges. the only problem is the cost which means less stock of games in shops and less money for me after i've bought a game. also carts cannot get damaged so there would be no need for replacement disks.
although i do think you should be aloud to make replacements for your own personal use, as it is very easy to damage a cd
although i do think you should be aloud to make replacements for your own personal use, as it is very easy to damage a cd
Yeah but how are they gonna catch people out when they pirate the games?
But don't you think we should have the rights to backup a game for our own personal use, just incase something happens to the original. You wouldn't want to have to pay for the game and the developers aren't going to replace it.
I think the developers do to much with the hardware to prevent piracy when they would be better trying to get the message across to the public. Let people who do it that they will be punished more for their crimes.
I think the developers do to much with the hardware to prevent piracy when they would be better trying to get the message across to the public. Let people who do it that they will be punished more for their crimes.
And the small discs and it cant play CD's.
GC's piracy prevention method, involvig cuts in their mini DVDs, is quite clever.
But if you think about there is 2 sides.
Bad: Expensive.
Good: Don't get scratched, no load time, hard to damage even if you do smash up the cart.
The price is the only disavantage in my eyes. I mean if the gamecube had not just a CD bit but also had a backwards compatable cart slot it would be the one and only true reinging gamesconsoles.
Bad: Expensive.
Good: Don't get scratched, no load time, hard to damage even if you do smash up the cart.
The price is the only disavantage in my eyes. I mean if the gamecube had not just a CD bit but also had a backwards compatable cart slot it would be the one and only true reinging gamesconsoles.
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