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Wed 01/08/01 at 09:11
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Here's (another) quote from PCZone:

"It has been revealed that playing videogames is commonplace within the penal service, and online games retailer ******** ***** has even released details of the top ten games ordered by HM prisons over the last year. It is predictably headed by the various incantations of Tomb Raider, swiftly followed by sundry Resident Evils and also includes titles such as Carmageddon and Grand Theft Auto."




In this post I'm not going to argue whether or not people in prison should be able to play games or not. In my opinion they shouldn't, prison is a place for punishment. But that's an entirely different argument, one which I'm not going to delve into here.

So, my argument is this:

Given that convicts are able to play videogames in prison, is it really a good move for them to be playing titles like GTA, Carmageddon etc? Do people lose some of their rights (apart from the obvious ones) when they get convicted? Or do they have the freedom to chose, and if they want to play violent games, or car stealing games, then they can, just like the rest of us?

These people in prison are, by law, allowed to make their own decisions. They are not medically insane, they are normal people who broke the law, therefore they can chose what they want to play. Yet some people will not want them playing games like GTA etc. So what should we do? Decide for the convicts what they can and can't play? But surely that goes against what a democracy stands for?

We all know that psychologists and people in america say that computer games are bad for you, and they can make you go out and shoot people etc. So surely the government, who are supposed to listen to important people like them, ban those sorts of games from the prisons?

Or should the government not say "Hey, ignore that Yank, games don't make you more violent, we let people in prison play them, so they must be ok." Surely one of those situations should occur. You can't, logically, have them both at the same time.

Either the games can affect people, so it would seem to be a good move to stop convicts playing them. Or games dont affect people and some government/watchdog person should say so. See?

Personally I don't think games can affect people, but I'm not 100% sure of the idea that convicts can play them. So I contradict myself. Hmmmm, bit of a puzzler that one.

I know a lot of you will just say "They're only games, let them play what they want." but if these people have a history of stealing cars, for example, is it a wise move to let them play a game where they steal cars?

What do you lot think?
Wed 01/08/01 at 11:01
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In that case I think we should introduce Goatboy to the British Penal System

;-D
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:59
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I stand by my decision to introduce Lylat Wars into the British Penal system.

It was originally meant as a satire, and any offence taken was not the point of my broadcast.
I am both shocked and dismayed at the subsequent coverage, and wish to stress that the original topic was meant as a satire, and in no way meant to trivialise the problem.

Whilst Channel Goat appreciate that the problem of convicts seeking hedge dwelling carnivores to launch them into space at the controls of badly pixelated spacecraft is indeed a serious one, the intention of the broadcast was to highlight the hysterical manner in which this sort of thing is presented by the media.

And I bet you didn't even read the topic did you?
I bet someone else told you how awful it was.

You're wrong and you're a grotesquely ugly freak.
Thanks.
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:56
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Lol@Meka.
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:49
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Goatboy wrote:
> And Lylat Wars

My God man, how irresponsible are you?

Do you really want ex-offenders up in space shooting down alien ships?

Of course you don't.

So why encourage them?

We all know that criminals are only the way they are because of watching corrupting television shows, and playing video games, so getting them together in agroup to play games? Whatever could that lead to?

Letting crimals play Lylat Wars would be the first step to intergalactic warfare. With animals.

Do you want some light fingered thug to swipe all of the foxes to send them into space?

Do you want your pet bunny rabbit involved in such goings on?

Just how do you think a bunny would fare in space?

Your comments here are completely irresponsible.

Allowing convicts to play Barbie Race and Ride will teach them to be nice, and ride horses and stuff.

Just what the world needs. More horse riders.

Of course, horse riders, will become fox hunters, and where are the foxes to hide?

In space, fighting evil, of course, so maybe one's as bad as the other?
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:33
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Im not completely against videogames in prison, mainly because I believe that people in prison need some addiction to occupy there time as oppossed to drugs.

Ild rather Prisoners were treated as they are in the US...i.e. chained together and made to fix our railways!

But that aside they need some entertainment however games that encourage violence such as GTA, Perfect Dark and Resident Evil should be banned.

There are enough non violent games that are as much fun but more suitable for prisoners such as FIFA (Football Hooligans not allowed for obvious reasons!), Mario64, Zelda, Gran Turismo (Car theives excluded!), and Banjo Kazooie.
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:30
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And Lylat Wars

(oh come on, you knew I was going to say that so stop mumbling.)
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:10
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Prison is a place for punishment, so should they play games?

Yes.

Barbie Race and Ride.
Wed 01/08/01 at 10:00
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I bet thats quite a sight. Watching DCI Goatboy flying across the room!

:@)
Wed 01/08/01 at 09:27
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Give them Nintendos and they spend their time being nice and fluffy.

And when they're released, they'll all go to work for a children's home and make nice pictures with paint and potatoes.

Or maybe it has no effect and they've already committed a crime so what difference does it make what they play?

Mind you, since playing Max Payne, I have attempted to leap about in bullet-time, although it has so far resulted in bruised shins and odd looks from my colleagues.
Wed 01/08/01 at 09:11
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Here's (another) quote from PCZone:

"It has been revealed that playing videogames is commonplace within the penal service, and online games retailer ******** ***** has even released details of the top ten games ordered by HM prisons over the last year. It is predictably headed by the various incantations of Tomb Raider, swiftly followed by sundry Resident Evils and also includes titles such as Carmageddon and Grand Theft Auto."




In this post I'm not going to argue whether or not people in prison should be able to play games or not. In my opinion they shouldn't, prison is a place for punishment. But that's an entirely different argument, one which I'm not going to delve into here.

So, my argument is this:

Given that convicts are able to play videogames in prison, is it really a good move for them to be playing titles like GTA, Carmageddon etc? Do people lose some of their rights (apart from the obvious ones) when they get convicted? Or do they have the freedom to chose, and if they want to play violent games, or car stealing games, then they can, just like the rest of us?

These people in prison are, by law, allowed to make their own decisions. They are not medically insane, they are normal people who broke the law, therefore they can chose what they want to play. Yet some people will not want them playing games like GTA etc. So what should we do? Decide for the convicts what they can and can't play? But surely that goes against what a democracy stands for?

We all know that psychologists and people in america say that computer games are bad for you, and they can make you go out and shoot people etc. So surely the government, who are supposed to listen to important people like them, ban those sorts of games from the prisons?

Or should the government not say "Hey, ignore that Yank, games don't make you more violent, we let people in prison play them, so they must be ok." Surely one of those situations should occur. You can't, logically, have them both at the same time.

Either the games can affect people, so it would seem to be a good move to stop convicts playing them. Or games dont affect people and some government/watchdog person should say so. See?

Personally I don't think games can affect people, but I'm not 100% sure of the idea that convicts can play them. So I contradict myself. Hmmmm, bit of a puzzler that one.

I know a lot of you will just say "They're only games, let them play what they want." but if these people have a history of stealing cars, for example, is it a wise move to let them play a game where they steal cars?

What do you lot think?

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