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After huge success with "Whole Again" Atomic Kitten (who by the way are gorgeous and an excellent live Act) seem to be heading straight to number one with "Eternal Flame" and if successful will also see Destanys Child put in their rightful place (No 2).
Now about the Topic title "Eternal Flames?" I ask this as atomic Kitten are now in a select few "pop" bands that can follow up one excellent single with another excellent single. But how long can they go on and will the Atomic Kitten flame burn in to obscurity after the next single or will their fame be eternal after managing a Trio of No 1 hits?
I haven't herd their album (if they have one) but I have seen them live and can thankfully say they do have excellent voices and after a doggy first couple of singles have as I have said above followed their early efforts with such classics as Whole Again and Eternal Flame.
Now before I get the purists on at me commenting on how Eternal Flame is not an original Atomic Kitten song and how the Bangles did it originally and better (which I disagree on the better part), I ask them this question - How many songs today are original songs and if the song is an original,who wrote the song (probably not the band/artist) and finally why do bands do cover versions? (probably because the song was so good in the first place?)
Long Burn Atomic Kitten!
Now about the Topic title "Eternal Flames?" I ask this as atomic Kitten are now in a select few "pop" bands that can follow up one excellent single with another excellent single. But how long can they go on and will the Atomic Kitten flame burn in to obscurity after the next single or will their fame be eternal after managing a Trio of No 1 hits?
I haven't herd their album (if they have one) but I have seen them live and can thankfully say they do have excellent voices and after a doggy first couple of singles have as I have said above followed their early efforts with such classics as Whole Again and Eternal Flame.
Now before I get the purists on at me commenting on how Eternal Flame is not an original Atomic Kitten song and how the Bangles did it originally and better (which I disagree on the better part), I ask them this question - How many songs today are original songs and if the song is an original,who wrote the song (probably not the band/artist) and finally why do bands do cover versions? (probably because the song was so good in the first place?)
Long Burn Atomic Kitten!
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Dr Gonzo wrote:
> cooldogs wrote:
>As for Artists writing their own songs. I
> dont
> view them as musicians unless they do.
So when the
> London Philharmonic Orchestra perform Beethoven's Symphony no. 8
> they are not musicians? Methinks you simplfy a little too much.
By the word Artists, I meant, the people who stand on TOTP and mime, while doing a stupid dance routine. Not the Royal Philarmonic Orchestra, who are very very good musicians.
seeya
> cooldogs wrote:
>As for Artists writing their own songs. I
> dont
> view them as musicians unless they do.
So when the
> London Philharmonic Orchestra perform Beethoven's Symphony no. 8
> they are not musicians? Methinks you simplfy a little too much.
By the word Artists, I meant, the people who stand on TOTP and mime, while doing a stupid dance routine. Not the Royal Philarmonic Orchestra, who are very very good musicians.
seeya
Goatboy wrote:
> Stuff
I hope that was tounge in cheek, otherwise you're being frightfully arrogant and basically saying your opinion counts for more than the rest of the British public.
> Stuff
I hope that was tounge in cheek, otherwise you're being frightfully arrogant and basically saying your opinion counts for more than the rest of the British public.
cooldogs wrote:
>As for Artists writing their own songs. I dont
> view them as musicians unless they do.
So when the London Philharmonic Orchestra perform Beethoven's Symphony no. 8 they are not musicians? Methinks you simplfy a little too much.
>As for Artists writing their own songs. I dont
> view them as musicians unless they do.
So when the London Philharmonic Orchestra perform Beethoven's Symphony no. 8 they are not musicians? Methinks you simplfy a little too much.
Goatboy wrote:
> That's right my pretties, now you begin to see.
Now you turn to
> Goatboy's mindset.
I think we've done the impossible and actually found a group we can agree on.
Atomic Kitten are awful. Always have been. Always will be.
I like my pop, I make no secret of that, but I still like to think I have my standards within the genre.
I haven't heard your band but I think that if I did then the more I hated it the bigger the compliment it would be to you ;)
> That's right my pretties, now you begin to see.
Now you turn to
> Goatboy's mindset.
I think we've done the impossible and actually found a group we can agree on.
Atomic Kitten are awful. Always have been. Always will be.
I like my pop, I make no secret of that, but I still like to think I have my standards within the genre.
I haven't heard your band but I think that if I did then the more I hated it the bigger the compliment it would be to you ;)
That's right my pretties, now you begin to see.
Now you turn to Goatboy's mindset.
Atomic Kitten suck, no two ways about it.
But they ain't no different to 95% of the sheet clogging up your radio.
They must all be played as much as possible, keeps them stupid see?
Imagine if everyone listened to good music, made by real people...who would serve me burgers?
The world needs idiots and idiot bands, so let them carry on, let kiddies and bovine adults buy this crap, watch Big Brother and actualy care about who wins.
Leaves me and you more space to read, think and evolve.
Now you turn to Goatboy's mindset.
Atomic Kitten suck, no two ways about it.
But they ain't no different to 95% of the sheet clogging up your radio.
They must all be played as much as possible, keeps them stupid see?
Imagine if everyone listened to good music, made by real people...who would serve me burgers?
The world needs idiots and idiot bands, so let them carry on, let kiddies and bovine adults buy this crap, watch Big Brother and actualy care about who wins.
Leaves me and you more space to read, think and evolve.
cooldogs wrote:
> Someone said "Burn Atomic Kitten Burn"
Remove the
> second Burn, and that is what I want to do to them.
Thats pretty much what I ment :)
> THe Corrs are
> the best example of this, because they write, play,
> produce/co-produce, their own music. Now that's
> talent!
Burn Corrs Burn! :)
> Someone said "Burn Atomic Kitten Burn"
Remove the
> second Burn, and that is what I want to do to them.
Thats pretty much what I ment :)
> THe Corrs are
> the best example of this, because they write, play,
> produce/co-produce, their own music. Now that's
> talent!
Burn Corrs Burn! :)
Someone said "Burn Atomic Kitten Burn"
Remove the second Burn, and that is what I want to do to them. Whole Again, is probably one of the most grating songs of the century. They cant sing to save their lives. The top note on Eternal Flame, is ung so off key that my dog howled when he heard it. The Bangles version was very good. I really like the song, but Atomic kitten should take the advice from their name and split, if they are going to keep spewing out this rubbish.
As for Artists writing their own songs. I dont view them as musicians unless they do. Cover songs are different, but in general a group should write their own music. THe Corrs are the best example of this, because they write, play, produce/co-produce, their own music. Now that's talent!
Seeya.
*Cooldogs now stands banging his head against the wall as the songs 'Whole Again' and 'Eternal Flame' infest his head!*
Remove the second Burn, and that is what I want to do to them. Whole Again, is probably one of the most grating songs of the century. They cant sing to save their lives. The top note on Eternal Flame, is ung so off key that my dog howled when he heard it. The Bangles version was very good. I really like the song, but Atomic kitten should take the advice from their name and split, if they are going to keep spewing out this rubbish.
As for Artists writing their own songs. I dont view them as musicians unless they do. Cover songs are different, but in general a group should write their own music. THe Corrs are the best example of this, because they write, play, produce/co-produce, their own music. Now that's talent!
Seeya.
*Cooldogs now stands banging his head against the wall as the songs 'Whole Again' and 'Eternal Flame' infest his head!*
Well, despite the general anti-kitten feeling here, I think they're great. I've had all the singles and both albums and think they are way better than most supposed British bands. Okay they do covers, they don't write their own songs, but who does ( as others here have said ? ) I like music thats fun and lively, not that sounds dull, depressing and monotone ( i.e typical british "real" bands ( Ha ! ) like Oasis, Travis e.t.c ) So what if they dont go down in history, bands like the beatles did and many teenagers consider them to be old rubbish ! Being remembered isn't necessarily for the best as times change.
Anyway I know they'll get number one tomorrow so obviously Im not the only one !
Anyway I know they'll get number one tomorrow so obviously Im not the only one !
I have no objection to the occasional cover version, so long as it is done differently to the original and not just a carbon copy of it. I think Wheatus's version of A Little Respect is one of the best songs of the year. It seems very different to the original at first but all they've really done is take the same song, remove the 'Erasure' style from it an apply their own.
At it's heart it's still pretty much the same song played in a very different way. In my opinion that's how covers should be done.
Atomic Kittens version of Eternal Flame takes a song which builds to a 'big ballad' style and replaces most of it with a comparatively bland backing fronted by weak vocals. In this case 'applying their style' means 'make it in the same style as Whole Again since this was what saved us from being dropped by our record company'.
In theory it's still how a cover should be done by being noticeably different from the original but when the final product is so apallingly pale in comparison as this is you have to ask why they bothered.
At it's heart it's still pretty much the same song played in a very different way. In my opinion that's how covers should be done.
Atomic Kittens version of Eternal Flame takes a song which builds to a 'big ballad' style and replaces most of it with a comparatively bland backing fronted by weak vocals. In this case 'applying their style' means 'make it in the same style as Whole Again since this was what saved us from being dropped by our record company'.
In theory it's still how a cover should be done by being noticeably different from the original but when the final product is so apallingly pale in comparison as this is you have to ask why they bothered.
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