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Thu 19/07/01 at 21:08
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I was going to put 101 reasons but haven't been able to think up anymore!

1. Nintendo have been around longer than anyone here. They were founded in 1898 as a playing card company.

2. Nintendo have 15 years of experience with consoles.

3. Sony are relatively new to the console wars. Only a few years old.

4. How many good consoles have Microsoft produced? None!

5. Nintendo have some great manufactures backing them.

6. Sony are unable to be original, they copy Nintendo all the time.

7. So do Microsoft.

8. The Gamecube is much more advanced than The PS2.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a Playstation. Shows how far behind playstaion are.

10. Nintendo have produced 3 amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4 awesome handheld held ones.

11. Both the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4 controller ports. This allows great
multiplayer fun. Does the Playstation, Playstation 1 or Playstation 2 have that? No! you have to buy an extra adapter which means more trips out and more money spent.

12. I know that the Gamecube will be sold for $199 in America.. Now that’s somewhere in the region of £150. The Playstation 2 however was released here for a rip off £300!

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

14. The have Rare making games for them and if you don’t already know Rare are the best game manufacturer of games.

15. People say “ oh but playstation have sold more than Nintendo”. Well the reason here is that the Playstation is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days and it stopped working! I have never had any trouble with any Nintendo product and don’t know anyone who has.

16. Microsoft make good computers and programs but they have no experience in the console market. They are jumping in at the deep end with no knowledge of what people want or what is popular.

17. When the Gamecube is released it will be easy on you wallet and perform much better than anything else.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in 5 colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big the Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller but about 20 times more powerful!

19. There are going to be an incredible amount of things to add on to your gamecube. There will be both a modem and broadband adapter, which fits neatly under the Gamecube. Digicards for saving as well as a Panasonic one which would hold 8 megs of saves! An adapter to connect your Cube to a digital camera to transfer pics into games. To top that off there will also be a wireless controller!

20. The GBA will be able to plug into the cube offering yet more original options for game play.

21. Sega will be making games for the cube and GBA. They are quite good at making games and are sure to do well out of that deal.

22. What is this 3rd place add for the Playstation 2? What does it mean? I played on one and was not transported to the realm of the duck man. Instead I got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

23. For playstaion is crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo sucks thread.

24 Has the Playstation 2 been designed for anyone? I say no. It is Big and black. The gamecube however is available in 5 colors to match your room. They are Black, gold, silver, Blue/purple and pink. Something for everyone.

25. Nintendo have always been tops for original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea but unfortunately never got released here! L

26. You can say Pokemon is crap but try telling that to its millions of fans worldwide. Pokemon made Nintendo a huge amount of money because it appealed to younger generations.

27. There are people who say the N64 is for little kids but there are plenty of games designed for us teenagers and adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil, Turok series.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking consoles in the world. It looks so cool sitting under your telly. It’s also easily recognizable. The Playstation 2 looks like a cheap VCR at a glance.

29. I used to look in Nintendo mags and se rendered pics. I knew they wouldn’t look like that on the N64 but all that will change with the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as good as the rendered drawings you see in mags.

30. Both the N64 and GC have controllers that have been designed for comfort whereas the playstaion ones are still the same and are uncomfortable.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved the controller to add an increased level of gameplay
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Thu 19/07/01 at 23:20
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semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons but haven't been able to think up
> anymore!

1. Nintendo have been around longer than anyone here.
> They were founded in 1898 as a playing card company.

Whats your point??

2. Nintendo
> have 15 years of experience with consoles.

That doesn't mean anything.

3. Sony are relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years old.

But they have done alot better than Nintendo.

4. How many good
> consoles have Microsoft produced? None!

Because this is their first console.

5. Nintendo have some
> great manufactures backing them.

Then again so do sony.

6. Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy Nintendo all the time.

What proof do you have of this.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

No they don't, they are to dumb to even think of doing something like that.

8. The Gamecube is much more advanced than The
> PS2.

Not really.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

About the same actually.

10. Nintendo have produced 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4 awesome handheld held
> ones.

Sony two amazing consoles.

11. Both the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4 controller
> ports. This allows great
multiplayer fun. Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or Playstation 2 have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter which means more trips out and more money
> spent.

Good point.

12. I know that the Gamecube will be sold for $199 in
> America.. Now that’s somewhere in the region of £150. The
> Playstation 2 however was released here for a rip off £300!
>

Another good point

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are sony.

14. The have Rare
> making games for them and if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best game manufacturer of games.

Sony have squaresoft and Konami

15. People say “ oh but
> playstation have sold more than Nintendo”. Well the reason here is
> that the Playstation is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days and it
> stopped working! I have never had any trouble with any Nintendo
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Probably because people dopn't take care of hiring things.

16. Microsoft make good
> computers and programs but they have no experience in the console
> market. They are jumping in at the deep end with no knowledge of
> what people want or what is popular.

Sony did this and look what happend.

17. When the Gamecube is
> released it will be easy on you wallet and perform much better than
> anything else.

True, btu it will perform the same as the PS2

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller but about 20
> times more powerful!

The PS2 looks cool.

19. There are going to be an incredible
> amount of things to add on to your gamecube. There will be both a
> modem and broadband adapter, which fits neatly under the Gamecube.
> Digicards for saving as well as a Panasonic one which would hold 8
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your Cube to a digital camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top that off there will also be a
> wireless controller!

Alot of stuff that sony have but good point.

20. The GBA will be able to plug into the
> cube offering yet more original options for game play.

Ah now that is a good idea.

21. Sega
> will be making games for the cube and GBA. They are quite good at
> making games and are sure to do well out of that deal.

Also they will make games for the PS2

22. What
> is this 3rd place add for the Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead I got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

hmmm

23. For
> playstaion is crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo sucks
> thread.

will do.

24 Has the Playstation 2 been designed for anyone? I say
> no. It is Big and black. The gamecube however is available in 5
> colors to match your room. They are Black, gold, silver, Blue/purple
> and pink. Something for everyone.

Yeah well.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops for original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea but
> unfortunately never got released here! L

a shame

26. You can say Pokemon
> is crap but try telling that to its millions of fans worldwide.
> Pokemon made Nintendo a huge amount of money because it appealed to
> younger generations.

Good point.

27. There are people who say the N64 is for
> little kids but there are plenty of games designed for us teenagers
> and adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil, Turok series.
>

Same for the PSone and PS2

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking consoles in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under your telly. It’s also easily
> recognizable. The Playstation 2 looks like a cheap VCR at a glance.
>

Actually a radiator.

29. I used to look in Nintendo mags and se rendered pics. I knew
> they wouldn’t look like that on the N64 but all that will change
> with the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as good as the
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

True.

30. Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have been designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are still the same and are uncomfortable.

They're not that bad.

31.
> With the GC Nintendo improved the controller to add an increased
> level of gameplay

The PS2's is pretty good.
Thu 19/07/01 at 23:05
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semajal wrote:
> This is alot of words. Now lets stop trying to out fdo each other an
> talk about somthin interesting!

FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant
> wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
>
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!
>

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone
> here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing
> card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
>
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2.
> Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with
> consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
>
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
>
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
>
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!
>

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a
> hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
>
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but
> Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
>
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's
> rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish
> platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
>
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
>
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
>
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.
>

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from
> what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
>
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs
> don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor
> power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind
> playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld
> console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the
> GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
>
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
>
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and
> 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I
> wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve
> a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console,
> why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo
> 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
>
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
>
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have
> to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips
> out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you
> here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
>
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
>
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be
> sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere
> in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2
> however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's
> not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra
> controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as
> well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
>
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
>
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.
>

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
>
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already
> know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of
> games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the
> best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go
> round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
>
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more
> than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that
> the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
>
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble
> with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone
> who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You
> can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's
> game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in
> the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the
> deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and
> Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get
> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reaso
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Sorry, but I cant agree!

semajal wrote:
> This is alot of words. Now lets stop trying to out fdo each other an
> talk about somthin interesting!

FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant
> wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
>
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!
>

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone
> here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing
> card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
>
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2.
> Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with
> consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
>
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
>
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
>
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!
>

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a
> hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
>
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but
> Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
>
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's
> rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish
> platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
>
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
>
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
>
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.
>

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from
> what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
>
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs
> don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor
> power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind
> playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld
> console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the
> GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
>
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
>
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and
> 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I
> wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve
> a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console,
> why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo
> 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
>
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
>
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have
> to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips
> out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you
> here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
>
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
>
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be
> sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere
> in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2
> however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's
> not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra
> controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as
> well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
>
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
>
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.
>

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
>
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already
> know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of
> games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the
> best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go
> round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
>
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more
> than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that
> the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
>
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble
> with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone
> who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You
> can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's
> game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in
> the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the
> deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and
> Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get
> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

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> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get
> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”.
> Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is
> CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
>
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
>
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.
>

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help
> that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game
> prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
>
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
>
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep
> end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
>
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony
> did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
>
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
>
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't
> even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't
> have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
>
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
>
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen
> how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is
> only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more
> powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and
> the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
>
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's
> opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be
> an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
>
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and
> broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
>
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic
> one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An
> adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
>
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
>
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
>
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the
> Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will
> be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more
> original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit
> to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games
> for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.
>

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have
> already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.
>

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
>
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
>
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the
> buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing
> PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap
> info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right
> stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
>
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
>
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your
> room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
>
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT
> DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy.
> And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always
> been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD
> was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never
> got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
>
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You
> can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to
> its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
>
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with
> that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
>
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games
> designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like
> CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.
>

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
>
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best
> looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool
> sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
>
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR
> at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
>
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se
> rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like
> that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
>
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
>
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2
> and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
>
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort
> whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same
> and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
>
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
>
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
>
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.
>

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of
> gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my
> Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most
> Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look
> very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it
> seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess,
> but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box
> overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.
>

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get
> for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
>
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
>
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been
> around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were
> founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
>
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where
> until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15
> years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.
>

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console
> wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a
> lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat
> the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
>
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a
> Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful
> console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
>
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
>
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
>
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo
> continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have
> much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
>
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought
> out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
>
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really
> played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
>
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
>
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
>
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes,
> Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in
> fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube
> here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing
> consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld
> held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
>
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
>
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
>
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
>
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
>
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1
> or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
>
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and
> more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here.
> There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come
> out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for
> certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
>
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
>
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the
> region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however
> was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
>
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for
> the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the
> games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make
> it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My
> bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.
>

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
>
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
>
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
>
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's
> opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game
> manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
>
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh
> but
>
> playstation have sold more than
>
Thu 19/07/01 at 22:54
Regular
"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
Ah, but you started it semajal! {:)

Anyway, this is what we're here for, right?? To discuss gaming.
Thu 19/07/01 at 22:39
Regular
"Jags is teh l33t"
Posts: 4,074
This is alot of words. Now lets stop trying to out fdo each other an talk about somthin interesting!

FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy. And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2 and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess, but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy. And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2 and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess, but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy. And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2 and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess, but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy. And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2 and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess, but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy. And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2 and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess, but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy. And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2 and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess, but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Bl
Thu 19/07/01 at 22:35
Regular
"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
FantasyMeister wrote:
> Why, did you shoot the author or something?

No, but I answered each question confidently and comprehensively.

Something I can't do at school due to lack of self-confidence.

*Ant begans to fall into self-pity*

I've got no confidence...I can't talk to girls...

Hang on, how come I can talk to Sniper then?? HAH! {:)
Thu 19/07/01 at 22:16
Regular
"Copyright: FM Inc."
Posts: 10,338
Why, did you shoot the author or something?
Thu 19/07/01 at 22:16
Regular
Posts: 2,982
FantasyMeister wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> semajal wrote:
> I was going to put 101 reasons
> but haven't been
> able to think up
> anymore!

1.
> Nintendo have been around
> longer than anyone here.
> They
> were founded in 1898 as a
> playing card company.

Experience
> doesn't always pay off. Gaming
> was going no where until Sony
> came along.

2. Nintendo
> have
> 15 years of experience
> with consoles.

Read the above point.

3.
> Sony are
> relatively
> new to the console wars. Only a few years
>
> old.

So what?? Sony have a lot of experince with the
> PlayStation,
> and easily beat the N64.

4. How many
> good
> consoles have
> Microsoft produced? None!

Maybe
> so-but they could do a Sony, and
> bring out a hugely popular
> and successful console.

5. Nintendo
> have some
> great
> manufactures backing them.

Ah, but Sony
> have more.

6.
> Sony are unable to be
> original, they copy
> Nintendo all
> the time.

That's rubbish!!! While Nintendo continue
> to
> create childish platformers, Sony have much more variety in
> their
> games.

7. So do
> Microsoft.

Who knows?
> Microsoft haven't
> brought out their console yet.

8. The
> Gamecube is much more
> advanced than The
> PS2.

No one
> has really played it properly
> yet, and from what Bonus and
> Turbonutter tell me, the PS2 is more
> powerful in some
> departments! And as the PSX showed, specs don't
> always
> matter.

9. The GBA. More processor power than a
>
> Playstation. Shows
> how far behind playstaion are.

You
>
> what?? The GBA is a handheld console, and yes, Nintendo have
> done
> well with the GBA. Brilliantly, in fact. But I thought we
> were
> talking about the GameCube here??

10. Nintendo have
> produced
> 3
> amazing consoles ( with one on the way) and 4
> awesome
> handheld held
> ones.

Well, I wouldn't call the
> N64
> 'amazing,' but yes, they deserve a lot of credit. But Sony
> produced
> an amazing console, why shouldn't they
> continue?

11. Both the
> Nintendo 64 and Gamecube have 4
> controller
> ports. This allows
> great
multiplayer fun.
> Does the Playstation,
> Playstation 1 or
> Playstation 2
> have that? No! you have to buy an
> extra adapter
> which
> means more trips out and more money
> spent.

I agree
>
> with you here. There is a lack of ports, but how many games
> have
> come out on PS2 with a 4-player mode?? Not many, that's
> for certain.
> Also, buy 2 multi-taps and you can have 8
> players!!

12. I know
> that the Gamecube will be sold for
> $199 in
> America.. Now
> that’s somewhere in the region of
> £150. The
> Playstation
> 2 however was released here
> for a rip off £300!

It's not a
> rip off, as I didn't
> have to buy extra controllers for the PS2-as
> PSX ones worked
> for it, as well as the games. Also, think of how
> much it cost
> Sony to make it!?
Also, the Americans always get it
> cheaper.
> My bet is around £200 for us, without a DVD
>
> Player.

13. Nintendo are reliable and trustworthy.

So are
> Sony
> and Microsoft.

14. The have Rare
> making games
> for them and
> if you don’t already know Rare are the
> best
> game manufacturer
> of games.

That's opinion based. I believe
> Konami are the best
> game manufacturer in the world. You can't
> go round saying that, as
> it's your opinion, not mine.

15.
> People say “ oh but
>
> playstation have sold more than
> Nintendo”. Well the reason here
> is
> that the Playstation
> is CHEAP! I hired one for a few days
> and it
> stopped
> working! I have never had any trouble with any
> Nintendo
>
> product and don’t know anyone who has.

Well,
> sometimes
> things don't work. You can't help that. And thank god it
> was
> cheap! The N64's game prices were awful!!

16. Microsoft
> make
> good
> computers and programs but they have no
> experience in the
> console
> market. They are jumping in at
> the deep end with no
> knowledge of
> what people want or
> what is popular.

I expect
> they have some idea, and Sony did
> the same thing.

17. When the
> Gamecube is
> released it
> will be easy on you wallet and perform
> much better than
>
> anything else.

You don't even know how
> much the games will
> cost! And I don't have to buy extra controllers!
> Also, your
> 'performance' comment doesn't deserve to be dignified
> with a
> response.

18. The Gamecube is good looking, comes in
>
> 5
> colors and is small and portable. Anyone seen how big
>
> the
> Playstation 2 is! My computer is only a bit smaller
> but
> about 20
> times more powerful!

I actually think
> the PS2
> looks good, and the GC looks like a bit of a coloured
> ice-cube-and
> with the handle it will be a BRIEFCASE!!! {:)
> Anyway, that's opinion
> based as well.

19. There are going
> to be an incredible
>
> amount of things to add on to your
> gamecube. There will be both
> a
> modem and broadband
> adapter, which fits neatly under the
> Gamecube.
> Digicards
> for saving as well as a Panasonic one
> which would hold 8
>
> megs of saves! An adapter to connect your
> Cube to a digital
> camera
> to transfer pics into games. To top
> that off
> there will also be a
> wireless controller!

The PS2
> has
> an 8mb memory card. Sony are soon to release the Broadband
>
> connection for the PS2.

20. The GBA will be able to plug
> into
> the
> cube offering yet more original options for
> game
> play.

Once again, credit to Nintendo.

21.
> Sega
> will be
> making games for the cube and GBA. They are
> quite good at
>
> making games and are sure to do well out
> of that deal.

They're
> making games for the PS2 as
> well-some have already been released.
> Not sure about the
> X-Box.

22. What
> is this 3rd place add
> for the
> Playstation 2? What does it mean? I
> played on one and
>
> was not transported to the realm of the duck man.
> Instead
> I
> got sore thumbs and couldn’t find the buttons.

Humm...my
> thumbs
> never hurt when playing PSX and PSX.

23. For
>
> playstaion is
> crap info check out Er-No’s post on the Nintendo
> sucks
>
> thread.

That comment was useless, and damn
> right stupid.

24
> Has the Playstation 2 been designed for
> anyone? I say
> no. It
> is Big and black. The gamecube
> however is available in 5
>
> colors to match your room.
> They are Black, gold, silver,
> Blue/purple
> and pink.
> Something for everyone.

WHO CARES
> ABOUT DESIGN?? As long
> as it plays top quality games, I'm happy. And
> that's opinion
> based.

25. Nintendo have always been
> tops
> for
> original console ideas. The 64DD was an inspired idea
> but
>
> unfortunately never got released here!

Maybe so,
> but the PS2 is
> revolutionary as well. And the X-Box, I'm
> sure.

26. You can say
> Pokemon
> is crap but try telling
> that to its millions of fans
> worldwide.
> Pokemon made
> Nintendo a huge amount of money
> because it appealed to
>
> younger generations.

Maybe so, I
> can't argue with that.
> But MGS is the best game ever made in my
> opinion.

27.
> There are people who say the N64 is for
>
> little kids but
> there are plenty of games designed for us
> teenagers
> and
> adults. Like CBFD, Perfect Dark, Resident Evil,
> Turok
> series.

Ah, but it's partly true. Many of Nintendo's best
>
> games are cartoonie platformers, which may appeal to some, but
> not
> to me.

28. The n64 is probably one of the best looking
> consoles
> in the
> world. It looks so cool sitting under
> your telly. It’s
> also easily
> recognizable. The
> Playstation 2 looks like a cheap
> VCR at a glance.

OPINION
> BASED!! AND WHO CARES ABOUT
> LOOKS??

29. I used to look in
> Nintendo mags and se rendered pics.
> I knew
> they wouldn’t
> look like that on the N64 but all that
> will change
> with
> the arrival of the Cube. Its graphics are as
> good as the
>
> rendered drawings you see in mags.

Maybe, but
> the PS2's
> graphics are awesome as well. Check out MGS2 and
> ZOE.

30.
> Both the N64 and GC have
> controllers that have
> been
> designed for comfort whereas the
> playstaion ones are
>
> still the same and are uncomfortable.

That is opinion based
> as
> well!! I have found the PSX controllers great, and I prefer
> them to
> any other type.

31. With the GC Nintendo improved
> the controller
> to add an increased level of gameplay.

A
> controller can add an
> increased level of gameplay?? I don't
> know, but I'm just fine with
> my Dual Shock 2 thank-you very
> much.


Is it me, or is most Ninty
> fans' argument that the
> PS2 and X-Box don't look very good, and that
> they are too
> young?? That's how it seems to me. We'll just have to
> wait and
> see, I guess, but I can personally see the PS2 and even the
>
> X-Box overcoming the GameCube.

> Thanks for reading,
> Ant.

FM: Watching Ant's word count.

Wonder how many words I get for that....... 12 more than FantasyMeister

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