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Well, the DS has been shown, whoopee, I bet Dringo wet his pants this afternoon.
So, anyway, this dual screen malarky, revolutionary? A brilliant change to the way games are played by the industry?
Well, guess what, I don't agree, and I'm going to be called a Sony fanboy, or at very best, an anti-Nintendo zealot for it ;)
Anyway, here's my gripe, there's nothing revolutionrary about the DS what-so-ever. People are talking as though they have never seen dual screen hardware in gamers lifetime, well, I hate to dissapoint you all, but the dual screen handheld format was tried, tested and loved by us golden oldies a little short of 20 years ago.
[URL]http://www.infa.abo.fi/~buck/misc/gizmos/pix/nintendo.game+watch.mickey+donald.open.jpg[/URL]
This picture shows a NINTENDO Game And Watch handheld single game device from almost TWENTY years ago.
[URL]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/12/nintendo_ds_comms/[/URL]
This image shows an almost identical looking handheld game platform, released by the very same company, but claim this dual screen arhitecture to be new, revolutionary, and well, good.
I'm not saying there may be some niche elements available to gamers, but I feel that most games developers will not use the additional screen for anything useful. Football games will have a top down radar, metroid will have a map, mario kart will have the track and player positions, basically world information about locations and the layout of the world will be used on this screen.
There is a good reason for this too, people can only concentrate their vision to a single focal point at a time. No one can concentrate on both of those screens at the same time, so one screen will be used for gameplay, and the other for displaying information.
This is a good thing given the paltry size of the DS screen, it means the game screen can be uncluttered with HUDs and the like but concentrate solely on letting the player play the game.
I will be truely amazed if anyone on this forum can come up with an original gameplay dynamic which could actively use the two screens of the DS in a way that could not be done on a single screen.
I'm even thinking of having, say, a heat sensor camera on the top screen, and a normal view on the bottom. This would be done MORE effectively on a single screen as a current day frame rate is at a higher reresh rate then the ability of a person to change their point of focus from one screen to the other. Sinply hitting a button to change views whilst focusing on a single point is a more natural way of playing a game.
So, I suppose I have set myself up for a fight by challenging the might of Ninetndo, again, but surely there are more innovative things happening in the world of gaming than a twenty year old handheld design being rereleased to a massive fanfare with no clear cut example of how this creates a revolution.
Nintendo should be commended for spinning up some dust to hide Sony's far nore impressive PSP handheld entertainment device.
The PSP is much more of a students system, good games, good movies, good sounds, wireless and one decent big widescreen which will let people who commute, or like to enjoy the comforts of their bedroom in some glorious sunshine.
The DS is not a gaming revolution, it's a bit like 90s pop music, a remix of something old people liked twenty years ago, just with more colours and more marketing hype. Take the DS with a pinch of salt, it's not worth the hype.
So, anyway, this dual screen malarky, revolutionary? A brilliant change to the way games are played by the industry?
Well, guess what, I don't agree, and I'm going to be called a Sony fanboy, or at very best, an anti-Nintendo zealot for it ;)
Anyway, here's my gripe, there's nothing revolutionrary about the DS what-so-ever. People are talking as though they have never seen dual screen hardware in gamers lifetime, well, I hate to dissapoint you all, but the dual screen handheld format was tried, tested and loved by us golden oldies a little short of 20 years ago.
[URL]http://www.infa.abo.fi/~buck/misc/gizmos/pix/nintendo.game+watch.mickey+donald.open.jpg[/URL]
This picture shows a NINTENDO Game And Watch handheld single game device from almost TWENTY years ago.
[URL]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/12/nintendo_ds_comms/[/URL]
This image shows an almost identical looking handheld game platform, released by the very same company, but claim this dual screen arhitecture to be new, revolutionary, and well, good.
I'm not saying there may be some niche elements available to gamers, but I feel that most games developers will not use the additional screen for anything useful. Football games will have a top down radar, metroid will have a map, mario kart will have the track and player positions, basically world information about locations and the layout of the world will be used on this screen.
There is a good reason for this too, people can only concentrate their vision to a single focal point at a time. No one can concentrate on both of those screens at the same time, so one screen will be used for gameplay, and the other for displaying information.
This is a good thing given the paltry size of the DS screen, it means the game screen can be uncluttered with HUDs and the like but concentrate solely on letting the player play the game.
I will be truely amazed if anyone on this forum can come up with an original gameplay dynamic which could actively use the two screens of the DS in a way that could not be done on a single screen.
I'm even thinking of having, say, a heat sensor camera on the top screen, and a normal view on the bottom. This would be done MORE effectively on a single screen as a current day frame rate is at a higher reresh rate then the ability of a person to change their point of focus from one screen to the other. Sinply hitting a button to change views whilst focusing on a single point is a more natural way of playing a game.
So, I suppose I have set myself up for a fight by challenging the might of Ninetndo, again, but surely there are more innovative things happening in the world of gaming than a twenty year old handheld design being rereleased to a massive fanfare with no clear cut example of how this creates a revolution.
Nintendo should be commended for spinning up some dust to hide Sony's far nore impressive PSP handheld entertainment device.
The PSP is much more of a students system, good games, good movies, good sounds, wireless and one decent big widescreen which will let people who commute, or like to enjoy the comforts of their bedroom in some glorious sunshine.
The DS is not a gaming revolution, it's a bit like 90s pop music, a remix of something old people liked twenty years ago, just with more colours and more marketing hype. Take the DS with a pinch of salt, it's not worth the hype.
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Yes, except for Tekken, those are good games.
But none of them beat Nintendo games....
But none of them beat Nintendo games....
Yes.
No good titles on the PSP?
Metal Gear Acid, Tekken 5, Gran Turismo 4 are all games confirmed for the PSP.
Metal Gear Acid, Tekken 5, Gran Turismo 4 are all games confirmed for the PSP.
I myself think that the DS wont cut it. And as for Wifi there probly wont be many hotsposts in england anyway and I wouldn't be seen in public with something that looks like its been made by Fisher Price.
*Runs*
*Runs*
Okay, let's put it this way.
If there was Nintendo sticker on the PSP, I'd be disappointed. Sure, graphics look great, but £250? Not to mention the rather dodgy design and lack of any good looking titles.
Before E3 I didn't the DS would amount to much, to be honest I think Dringo was the only one thinking it would be great, and not even he could imagine something this good. Is that because it's Nintendo? Nope, because it's good. If Sony revealed it, you be wetting your pants saying. But they didn't, they decided that the yawn PSP is the way forward.
If you can't see the scope that the DS's abities possess, why bother arguing? You obviously know nothing about it.
If there was Nintendo sticker on the PSP, I'd be disappointed. Sure, graphics look great, but £250? Not to mention the rather dodgy design and lack of any good looking titles.
Before E3 I didn't the DS would amount to much, to be honest I think Dringo was the only one thinking it would be great, and not even he could imagine something this good. Is that because it's Nintendo? Nope, because it's good. If Sony revealed it, you be wetting your pants saying. But they didn't, they decided that the yawn PSP is the way forward.
If you can't see the scope that the DS's abities possess, why bother arguing? You obviously know nothing about it.
Darwock wrote:
> Cyclone wrote:
> At least it has a tiny bit more innovation than the PSP...
>
> That's another good response, about as useful as saying it has
> possibilities. The PSP doesn't really feature in whether or not the
> DS is a worthwhile endeavour. From everything I have seen, it's
> not... especially not as they plan on introducing a GBA2.
Yes in around 2-3 years.
The PSP is selling itself to an unintrerested market... I will not play games on the go... and I'm a Nintendo gamer. Sure I'll listen to music but hey I'll get an IPod then...
PSP sells itself to adults... Nintendo sells itself to children and the hardcore...
The DS will still ensnare that market with a cheap system and fantastic games.
Sony have to sell their system to the pub going public, and I can't see me going for that.
> Cyclone wrote:
> At least it has a tiny bit more innovation than the PSP...
>
> That's another good response, about as useful as saying it has
> possibilities. The PSP doesn't really feature in whether or not the
> DS is a worthwhile endeavour. From everything I have seen, it's
> not... especially not as they plan on introducing a GBA2.
Yes in around 2-3 years.
The PSP is selling itself to an unintrerested market... I will not play games on the go... and I'm a Nintendo gamer. Sure I'll listen to music but hey I'll get an IPod then...
PSP sells itself to adults... Nintendo sells itself to children and the hardcore...
The DS will still ensnare that market with a cheap system and fantastic games.
Sony have to sell their system to the pub going public, and I can't see me going for that.
Maybe I'll listen to bonus who has ignored touch screen, microphone, multiplayer, wi-fi etc...
Or maybe I'll listen to Namco, SEGA, capcom, Square, Nintendo, THQ and EA....
Who are making games for it and have actually owned the machine.
Please Bonus shut up.
Or maybe I'll listen to Namco, SEGA, capcom, Square, Nintendo, THQ and EA....
Who are making games for it and have actually owned the machine.
Please Bonus shut up.
It also has an in built MP3 player. Before you rubbish that, remember that Sony actually know how to build music players. Not only that, but some Sony executive Japanesefunnyname said that it would also support Sony's new mobile music download service.
Cyclone wrote:
> At least it has a tiny bit more innovation than the PSP...
That's another good response, about as useful as saying it has possibilities. The PSP doesn't really feature in whether or not the DS is a worthwhile endeavour. From everything I have seen, it's not... especially not as they plan on introducing a GBA2.
> At least it has a tiny bit more innovation than the PSP...
That's another good response, about as useful as saying it has possibilities. The PSP doesn't really feature in whether or not the DS is a worthwhile endeavour. From everything I have seen, it's not... especially not as they plan on introducing a GBA2.
Ah, and films, because everybody wants to watch films on the move*
*Note, I know it's a good feature, just it's also rather a bonus than anything very useful, to me anyway.
*Note, I know it's a good feature, just it's also rather a bonus than anything very useful, to me anyway.
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