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Fri 13/07/01 at 14:35
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I've just been standing up outside getting a bit of fresh air only to be stood near some man puffing away on a cigarette with the wind blowing it into my face choking me. Here I am thinking "This tastes disgusting" as I am inhaling it into my lungs with every breath. Then I start to wonder "what's the point?". I'm standing there asking myself why people smoke.

It takes more than one cigarette to becoming addicted I thought so it can't be that as if people didn't like the first puffs why would they want to try a second time? So they must enjoy it I'm thinking.. but then I think Why? That don't smell or 'taste' nice to me. Yet people are spending 2 to 4 quid on just a packet of 10 or 20 on a regular basis. That could end up being 20 pounds a week.. I could get a DVD for that. And a DVD would give me more enjoyment than 100 cigarettes in a week.

I suppose it doesn't help that all the celebrities do it. These are many people's role models and they grow up thinking smokings a way to be cool. Other people must think its a grown up thing to do as all the older kids do it and you have to be over 16 to smoke so maybe it's this a desperate plee to be respected as an adult not a child.

I'm sure you have seen it all before. The "leader" of your group (the one everyone respects and wants to be like) starts smoking, you get offered a cigarette (which you have to accept or you won't look cool) and then you start smoking on a regular basis. Then you become addicted then you die at an earlier age then you should of. Is this how all people begin smoking? It can't be for the taste..

I don't mean to offend anyone on this site who is reading this that may smoke - I'm just curious. How did you begin smoke? I'd like to know as I have never even tried one - I don't wish to there are much better things I'd like to spend my money on. So despite not ever trying one from it's smell and taste and all the smoke that comes off it to me cigarettes look very unpleasing and I'm wondering why people do it. Is it peer pressure? Or is it something else.

And if you do smoke I ask you one thing.. please check which direction the wind is going before you light up..
Mon 16/07/01 at 23:04
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Mon 16/07/01 at 14:56
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Goatboy wrote:
Mobile Phones, we dont know what the hell they do
> yet.
But something that can disrupt my computer and radio and
> landline phone that easily can't be doing good things to my
> head.


Exactly! If a microwave oven can cook a solid potato in about 7 minutes, think what it does to your head! Ok, so a phone is a lot less powerful, but if you add up how many minutes you have it right next your your ear for a year, and... well, i'm sure you get the picture.
Mon 16/07/01 at 14:51
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I agree and glad someone actually read my post (DAN, take note).

I know fags are harmful. That's my choice, I'm an adult.

Mobile Phones, we dont know what the hell they do yet.
But something that can disrupt my computer and radio and landline phone that easily can't be doing good things to my head.

So, I chose to not have a phone for years.
And now I do have one, but the only time it's with me is in my car because I drive distances a great deal.
And it ain't turned on, only if I need it in case of breakdowns.

So, I'll smoke, you use your phone and we'll stay well apart from each other.

Ok?
Ok
Mon 16/07/01 at 14:45
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Going back to the mobile phone thing Goaty just mention, i feel that some people are being SO stupid.

Whats the point of using a hands free kit if, when you've finished talking, you leave it turned on and put it inside your jacket pocket. Right next to your heart. Good move.

Some people may be currently thinking, "yes, but your not making a call, so it doesn't matter." To which i say, when your phone is turned on but not making a call, it still gives off microwaves. It's doing it constantly, how else does it know if it has a signal or not?

So whats worse for you, a short burst of high amounts of radiation, or prolonged, like all day for some people, exposure to small amounts?

Don't give me all that, but it doesn't give cancer rubbish. I'm not saying it does, all i'm saying is something that uses the same rays to cook your food, if it's transmitted straight into your brain can't do you much good. I'm probably being hypocritical as i have a mobile phone and I use it. But only a small amount.
Mon 16/07/01 at 14:39
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Sorry to tell you Dan, but it's not just smokers that die.

Non-Smokers die every day.

Bill Hicks 1962-1994
Mon 16/07/01 at 14:38
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Enjoy dying then.
Mon 16/07/01 at 10:23
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All good points raised here, and I think it comes down to consideration for others, not if you smoke or not.

As a smoker, I am all for banning it on buses, trains, planes and restaurants - I appreciate that it's not nice for those who choose not to.
I wouldn't dream of lighting up in a confined space, I'd ask if it was ok first.
Why?

Because I'm a considerate person.
Some aren't. There are the same people that bring mobile phones into cinemas, pull out in front of you when there is nothing behind you for miles etc etc.

It boils down to arrogant and rude people that don't take other people into mind when they act.
Smokers or not, besides the point.

I do get that non-smokers feel their life is in danger because I choose to smoke a cigarette. Fine, no arguments.
So don't use mobile phones in public places either, god alone knows what they do to you. A radio/computer/tv signal is distorted when a mobile goes off nearby, you telling me your brain isn't?

But we don't know the dangers. Yet.
Just as we didnt know the dangers of smoking until 30 years ago.

So why do I smoke?
The one issue that hasn't been addressed here.
Why?
Because I enjoy it.
Not a very commonly known fact, but smoking (for smokers) is enjoyable. That's why we do it.
A smoke after a decent meal is wonderful.
Sorry, but that's how it is for smokers.
Calms you, relaxes you and yes, I know it's a drug, we're getting our fix, leave us alone.

And it's a great social leveller.
Go past any major place of work and, thanks to the health nazis, you see all class of people standing outside smoking.
Directors, chairman, secretaries, janitors...everyone standing around with a common bond:
We're treated like baby-killers these days.

Smoking is a drug.
We're addicted. Go pick on Winos or junkies.
But you wont, because it's socially acceptable to discriminate and harass smokers.
Then it'll be fat people, then people with glasses, then those without blond hair etc.

Extreme?
Maybe, but you try being a social pariah because of your addiction. Where's the understanding? Where is the sympathy?
Hypocrisy.
You'll all pretend you care if a methadone user needs help, you can get that prescribed on the NHS.
Not ciggies though.
And ANY addict does it through their own choice, so dont use that one folks.

Have sympathy, not spite.
Sat 14/07/01 at 10:01
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God I miss smoking :)
Fri 13/07/01 at 20:13
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Goatboy wrote:
>I smoke. I enjoy it. The 1st time I hacked my guts up and >felt ill. But went back to it, just because I wanted to.

This is what I don't get.. the first time you were ill but you went back to it because you wanted to? That doesn't make much sense. I don't want to offend you I'm just intrigued by why you would want to go back to it? Can you give a reason?

Public Smoking:
Firstly if you are standing at a train station and someone walks along stands next to you and lights up why should you move? That's what I don't like. Some smokers are respectful of people that don't smoke and are careful where they are smoking while others aren't. The ones that aren't annoy me. I hate breathing in smoke as much as breathing in car exhaust. Passive smoking is nearly as bad as smoking as it's the smoke thats the stuff that can cause stuff like bronchitis when you breath in destroying your alveoli that filter air. I've chosen not to smoke and other people have chosen to smoke that's fine (I don't give people lectures when they buy cigarettes from the newsagents I work). I don't give a monkeys if people want to smoke it's the respect for people that don't that you don't get from some smokers I don't like. I've chosen not to inhale smoke and I don't really like it if other people do. That's my view on the matter. I know loads of smokers but I don't mind them because they don't blow into my face it's those stereotypical twenty somethings with skinheads I hate who seem to check which direction the wind is blowing and position themselves to my side so that the smoke blows in my face. I'd like to ask them to smoke somewhere else but a 16 year old hasn't got much chance against a 20 year old hardman. Thanks for reading
Fri 13/07/01 at 19:25
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At the end of the day this is a free country and if people want to pay to reduce their lifespans then they can ! Sure the Government makes money from it but it is probably negated by the vast sums the NHS has to spend treating other smokers. I don't smoke myself and never would, even at school when everyone else in my group did I didn't and they never had a problem with that. you can't compare smoking to drinking because if I stand next to someone and have a drink then I do them no harm whatsoever but if they smoke next to me all the toxic fumes are breathed in by me. Okay so someone can get in the car after a drink and kill someone....but if smokers want to be that petty then.......well a smoker can drop a cigarette at a petrol station, set fire to their home, have a heart attack whilst driving on the motorway e.t.c

Fine, if people want to smoke I don't care but if they insist on making everyone else inhale the smoke then its a different matter.

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