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Sat 22/05/04 at 17:35
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Now whilst after a highly impressive E3, we all no doubt feel like loving Nintendo, and kissing Mr. Miyamoto’s feet, but I think that we can’t afford to get carried away. Nintendo still has a future that is unpredictable and masked with mystery; we are still yet to see what the casual gamers are going to think about the Nintendo DS and other such exciting products from the Big N. But what about the other franchises and aspects that we associate with Nintendo, or which are vital to them? Enter…

Source 1: Pokemon - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/poke_draw.JPG[/URL]
Monster battle you say? Pokemon I say. Yes its still by far the leading title of its genre, but what about the genre as a whole? Ever since the Pokemon card obsession seemed to fizzle out the games have slowly but surely decreased in popularity. Sure there will always be a select few that keep this franchise living, but I think it would have been better for Nintendo to cash in on a fully 3D Pokemon RPG game earlier, when the name was so incredibly popular. I can see this being a very niche market in the future.

Source 2: Mario - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/mario_draw.JPG[/URL]
Mario, and everyone loves Mario. Or do they? According to the recent disliking directed towards the great Italian’s latest game on the ‘Cube it seems his status may well be on the plunge as well. I personally loved it, and whilst many would agree, a vast majority also believe Sunshine to be a shadow of its former N64 title, and an untrue update to its genre. Does this mean the platform-lovers of Nintendo are getting grumpy with Nintendo too? And what about Mario 128? That seems to be shaping up to be something different too, and God knows the amount of strops that are liable to form over that.

Source 3: 3rd Parties - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/third_party.JPG[/URL]
Is it just me or has it become progressively more worrying the amount of 3rd parties packing up their Gamecube games and heading PS2 and Xbox exclusive. Even before now top titles such as Rainbow Six 3 and Splinter Cell have gone down this route before eventually after much wait offering the titles on ‘Cube too. With Eidos, Acclaim and EA all looking prone to going down this route also, Nintendo relations on the 3rd party front seem to be crumbling. My idea? Tell these companies that if they don’t want to make games for Gamecube then they can’t make them for GBA either. If this were the case, and contributions were made to Nintendo as a whole then more companies would have second thoughts when it came to deserting the ‘Cube. The Gameboy is, and always has been, big business.

Source 4: Zelda - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/zelda_draw2.jpg[/URL]
After the pant-wettingly pleasing E3 outing, everyone has been talking about the next Gamecube Zelda game. Fully realistic, just what us Ninty fans want, but is it what the general public want? Are they, like us, going to see what a console shifting game this may well turn out to be, or will it be a combination of this, and poor Nintendo advertising that will fail to shift the new update? I personally can’t wait for this, it seems to have retained all of the brilliance and aspects that made Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask great and packed it together with a wealth of new features. A bit much to say so soon, but if the public aren’t made fully aware of what a killer game this could be for the ‘Cube, it could go all wrong.

Source 5: Shigsy - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/shig_draw.jpg[/URL]
The maestro himself, behind Zelda, Mario 64, and of course the brilliant Pikmin. What if he packs it in though, and packs it in whilst all the franchises he has created are running out of steam? The man isn’t getting any younger at 50-something; lets just hope Nintendo can soak up every ounce of banjo-playing genius before the Spielberg of video games departs, eh? Slightly irrelevant, this one, yet something to ponder over all the same.

So there you have it, Nintendo’s future, whilst particularly bright after E3, could still be somewhat thwarted by other such causes. I, like most am still sure that the genius company will conjure new ways to differentiate exclusive franchises such as Mario and Zelda. But what about Pokemon and other future consoles? Are Nintendo ever going to be in danger of running out of innovation, or perhaps money to fuel such creativity? Only time will tell, and only the general public will decide.

Thanks for looking.
Sat 22/05/04 at 18:05
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Gah Pokemon is like every other Nintendo franchise, a million seller. True it isn't as big as the craze but not even Nintendo could predict how long that would last.

Sunshine hasn't crippled Mario's popularity... us hardcore gamers know that the game is more of a special one-off than a normal Mario title (although I think it rules) and the casual gamer actually liked the game as it is very good.

And besides everyone (generalisation but generally true) loved Mario Kart.
Sat 22/05/04 at 17:58
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"bei-jing-jing-jing"
Posts: 7,403
I know there are obvious exceptions to these motions, I was just trying to show people that whilst we should be feeling relatively upbeat after a great E3, that there are still relative problems ahead. Pokemon is starting to to lose some pulling power espescially in the US and Europe. Mario may begin to lose some of its previous attention after Sunshine, and what looks to be an even bigger change in Mario 128. And third parties are consistantly snubbing Nintendo, in a very worrying way. I'm just weary that in the future Mr. Joe Casual won't be able to find a way to outweigh what great exclusives the Cube does have against 3rd party titles on Xbox on PS2.

Still, being a Nintendo fan I still believe in Nintendo, and am confident they'll pull out something revolutionary, and who says the DS can't be that something?
Sat 22/05/04 at 17:45
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Scrap that the last game Shigsy made is Pacman Vs.
Sat 22/05/04 at 17:44
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1: The last Pokemon game sold a million in a week in Japan alone.

2: Mario Sunshine was only unpopular by a small consortium of gamers who actually like the game but just "wasn't what they wanted", the casual Nintendo fans love it. Mario Kart is fantastic and the public love it to.

3: Third parties are a major issue but if Nintendo threaten to cancel their potential GBA support then they'll stuff it and work with the PSP and once again Nintendo have alienated the third parties like that did at the beginning of the N64 era. Nintendo just need to talk with them, though your idea worked once with Square but that was because Nintendo hate them.

4: Zelda always shifts system, particulary in Japan. And it doesn't matter, 99% of the Gamecube owners will buy the game making Nintendo a packet.

5: Shigsy doesn't actually make games anymore and hasn't since Pikmin. He is creative and he advises but there are a wealth of new genius's at Nintendo. Miyamoto is a legendary figure but he is constantly training up new people such as the Zelda producer.
Sat 22/05/04 at 17:35
Regular
"bei-jing-jing-jing"
Posts: 7,403
Now whilst after a highly impressive E3, we all no doubt feel like loving Nintendo, and kissing Mr. Miyamoto’s feet, but I think that we can’t afford to get carried away. Nintendo still has a future that is unpredictable and masked with mystery; we are still yet to see what the casual gamers are going to think about the Nintendo DS and other such exciting products from the Big N. But what about the other franchises and aspects that we associate with Nintendo, or which are vital to them? Enter…

Source 1: Pokemon - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/poke_draw.JPG[/URL]
Monster battle you say? Pokemon I say. Yes its still by far the leading title of its genre, but what about the genre as a whole? Ever since the Pokemon card obsession seemed to fizzle out the games have slowly but surely decreased in popularity. Sure there will always be a select few that keep this franchise living, but I think it would have been better for Nintendo to cash in on a fully 3D Pokemon RPG game earlier, when the name was so incredibly popular. I can see this being a very niche market in the future.

Source 2: Mario - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/mario_draw.JPG[/URL]
Mario, and everyone loves Mario. Or do they? According to the recent disliking directed towards the great Italian’s latest game on the ‘Cube it seems his status may well be on the plunge as well. I personally loved it, and whilst many would agree, a vast majority also believe Sunshine to be a shadow of its former N64 title, and an untrue update to its genre. Does this mean the platform-lovers of Nintendo are getting grumpy with Nintendo too? And what about Mario 128? That seems to be shaping up to be something different too, and God knows the amount of strops that are liable to form over that.

Source 3: 3rd Parties - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/third_party.JPG[/URL]
Is it just me or has it become progressively more worrying the amount of 3rd parties packing up their Gamecube games and heading PS2 and Xbox exclusive. Even before now top titles such as Rainbow Six 3 and Splinter Cell have gone down this route before eventually after much wait offering the titles on ‘Cube too. With Eidos, Acclaim and EA all looking prone to going down this route also, Nintendo relations on the 3rd party front seem to be crumbling. My idea? Tell these companies that if they don’t want to make games for Gamecube then they can’t make them for GBA either. If this were the case, and contributions were made to Nintendo as a whole then more companies would have second thoughts when it came to deserting the ‘Cube. The Gameboy is, and always has been, big business.

Source 4: Zelda - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/zelda_draw2.jpg[/URL]
After the pant-wettingly pleasing E3 outing, everyone has been talking about the next Gamecube Zelda game. Fully realistic, just what us Ninty fans want, but is it what the general public want? Are they, like us, going to see what a console shifting game this may well turn out to be, or will it be a combination of this, and poor Nintendo advertising that will fail to shift the new update? I personally can’t wait for this, it seems to have retained all of the brilliance and aspects that made Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask great and packed it together with a wealth of new features. A bit much to say so soon, but if the public aren’t made fully aware of what a killer game this could be for the ‘Cube, it could go all wrong.

Source 5: Shigsy - [URL]http://www.planetnintendo.co.uk/shig_draw.jpg[/URL]
The maestro himself, behind Zelda, Mario 64, and of course the brilliant Pikmin. What if he packs it in though, and packs it in whilst all the franchises he has created are running out of steam? The man isn’t getting any younger at 50-something; lets just hope Nintendo can soak up every ounce of banjo-playing genius before the Spielberg of video games departs, eh? Slightly irrelevant, this one, yet something to ponder over all the same.

So there you have it, Nintendo’s future, whilst particularly bright after E3, could still be somewhat thwarted by other such causes. I, like most am still sure that the genius company will conjure new ways to differentiate exclusive franchises such as Mario and Zelda. But what about Pokemon and other future consoles? Are Nintendo ever going to be in danger of running out of innovation, or perhaps money to fuel such creativity? Only time will tell, and only the general public will decide.

Thanks for looking.

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