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I thought I'd better post this before Machie and Garin have nothing left to say about it. (As if Machie and Garin would ever run out of things to say)
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There are many reasons for the sinking of The Titanic to be a human disaster. One reason being the fact there were only 20 life boats on board, meaning that less than half the passengers, not including the crew, would not be safe when the ship went under. Another human error was that look-outs may not have had any binoculars, however this wasn't proved, but would made the fact that the Titanic was speeding through the ocean, even though the crew had been warned about the icebergs that were sighted earlier in the region even worse, because he couldn't see the iceberg until they were much closer, and to late to aviod the it. After the Titanic was peirced by the iceberg, 5 of the 16 water-tight compartments were flooded, if only 4 got flooded the ship would have stayed afloat, the extra flooding was partly due to the fact that the water-tight compartments were not built to the very top, meaning that the water flowed over the top of the doors flooding more compartments. Only 703 out of the 2200 travellers survived, this is related back to the first point, about the lifeboats. However it isn't just that there weren't enough, but when they first tried to get the passengers into the lifeboats, no one believed that the ship was sinking, therefore no one planned to get on and the first few lifeboats were sent away with less than half the full capacity.
Even though there were many human errors, nature played a part in this disaster. Such as the iceberg, completely natural, no relation to mankind at all, therefore cannot be human error, and it was the iceberg that caused the hole, that allowed the water to overflow 5 compartments, making the ship sink. Darkness was another factor that contributed to the sinking of the Titanic, if it weren't dark then the look-out would have seen the iceberg in time for the ship to turn and possibly miss it.
So, was it a human disaster or natural? I'll leave you lot to argue about it.
Also, please consider that even though there are more human errors than natural, most of the human errors are linked. So its about half and half of each.
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There are many reasons for the sinking of The Titanic to be a human disaster. One reason being the fact there were only 20 life boats on board, meaning that less than half the passengers, not including the crew, would not be safe when the ship went under. Another human error was that look-outs may not have had any binoculars, however this wasn't proved, but would made the fact that the Titanic was speeding through the ocean, even though the crew had been warned about the icebergs that were sighted earlier in the region even worse, because he couldn't see the iceberg until they were much closer, and to late to aviod the it. After the Titanic was peirced by the iceberg, 5 of the 16 water-tight compartments were flooded, if only 4 got flooded the ship would have stayed afloat, the extra flooding was partly due to the fact that the water-tight compartments were not built to the very top, meaning that the water flowed over the top of the doors flooding more compartments. Only 703 out of the 2200 travellers survived, this is related back to the first point, about the lifeboats. However it isn't just that there weren't enough, but when they first tried to get the passengers into the lifeboats, no one believed that the ship was sinking, therefore no one planned to get on and the first few lifeboats were sent away with less than half the full capacity.
Even though there were many human errors, nature played a part in this disaster. Such as the iceberg, completely natural, no relation to mankind at all, therefore cannot be human error, and it was the iceberg that caused the hole, that allowed the water to overflow 5 compartments, making the ship sink. Darkness was another factor that contributed to the sinking of the Titanic, if it weren't dark then the look-out would have seen the iceberg in time for the ship to turn and possibly miss it.
So, was it a human disaster or natural? I'll leave you lot to argue about it.
Also, please consider that even though there are more human errors than natural, most of the human errors are linked. So its about half and half of each.
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Sunflower wrote:
> Also it was dark, and like I mentioned in my first
> post, if it were during the day they would have seen the iceberg
> in time to turn and miss it, so it would have never happened.
Now you're just being silly. Darkness is neither an extreme or unusual event. Perhaps I'll take the car out for a spin tonight and run a few people down. I'll be able to claim natural disaster I'm sure.
Natural disasters are usually characterised by acts of nature that would be considered unusual or extreme. In this case neither the darkness or the iceberg were.
> Also it was dark, and like I mentioned in my first
> post, if it were during the day they would have seen the iceberg
> in time to turn and miss it, so it would have never happened.
Now you're just being silly. Darkness is neither an extreme or unusual event. Perhaps I'll take the car out for a spin tonight and run a few people down. I'll be able to claim natural disaster I'm sure.
Natural disasters are usually characterised by acts of nature that would be considered unusual or extreme. In this case neither the darkness or the iceberg were.
Human disaster, and no doubt about it. You can't alter natural conditions, but you can alter human behaviour.
I say it's nature, because even though it was humans who were sailing the ship, if it weren't for the iceberg they wouldn't have sunk! Also it was dark, and like I mentioned in my first post, if it were during the day they would have seen the iceberg in time to turn and miss it, so it would have never happened.
It's quite obvious.
Sailing a huge ship too fast in icy waters to satisfy ego is purely and simply human error.
When an extreme sportsman breaks his back falling down a ski slope, do we blame the snow?
Sailing a huge ship too fast in icy waters to satisfy ego is purely and simply human error.
When an extreme sportsman breaks his back falling down a ski slope, do we blame the snow?
As I already said, I have no interest in debating this. The answer is obvious to me. :)
I know this looks like I posted it all, well I did but it was all from others. Now, don't give up... Carry on!
Der Nazi wrote:
> The Titanic didn't hit an iceberg, it was roundhouse kicked by
> Chuck Norris. :)
>
> Ok, as far as I know, the case was that it was being driven too
> fast in the dark, and the iceberg was spotted a bit too late,
> and due to a faulty design, ended up sinking.
>
> And another fun fact: the movie is total crap!
> The Titanic didn't hit an iceberg, it was roundhouse kicked by
> Chuck Norris. :)
>
> Ok, as far as I know, the case was that it was being driven too
> fast in the dark, and the iceberg was spotted a bit too late,
> and due to a faulty design, ended up sinking.
>
> And another fun fact: the movie is total crap!
Garin wrote:
> :-)
> :-)
Machie wrote:
> ¬_¬ ok whatever
> ¬_¬ ok whatever
Garin wrote:
> Machie wrote:
> You're comparing a stationary mountain with a floating iceberg
> though Garin.
>
> Really? Thank god you told me, I wouldnt have realised
> otherwise. If you have any other stunning intellectual insights
> be sure to let me know.
> Machie wrote:
> You're comparing a stationary mountain with a floating iceberg
> though Garin.
>
> Really? Thank god you told me, I wouldnt have realised
> otherwise. If you have any other stunning intellectual insights
> be sure to let me know.
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