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Why do all conversions from PC games go bad on the PS2. Max Payne and Max Payne 2 were not very good conversions, the core game was good, but in comparison to the PC game and the Xbox conversion they were bad. Giants Citezen Kabuto was made worse on the PS2 by getting rid of the FPS bit. No Lives Forver was made worse with a serious dumbing down of the graphics but the core game was still fun, if a little ugly. I won't even start with Star Trek Elite Force. The only really good one that i can think of offhand was Half-Life.
Why do most developers just not bother trying for the PS2?
Can you think of any other bad conversions? or good conversions? or even why the conversions are so bad?
Why do most developers just not bother trying for the PS2?
Can you think of any other bad conversions? or good conversions? or even why the conversions are so bad?
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Why do all conversions from PC games go bad on the PS2. Max Payne and Max Payne 2 were not very good conversions, the core game was good, but in comparison to the PC game and the Xbox conversion they were bad. Giants Citezen Kabuto was made worse on the PS2 by getting rid of the FPS bit. No Lives Forver was made worse with a serious dumbing down of the graphics but the core game was still fun, if a little ugly. I won't even start with Star Trek Elite Force. The only really good one that i can think of offhand was Half-Life.
Why do most developers just not bother trying for the PS2?
Can you think of any other bad conversions? or good conversions? or even why the conversions are so bad?
Why do most developers just not bother trying for the PS2?
Can you think of any other bad conversions? or good conversions? or even why the conversions are so bad?
They do its just because the PS2 is an inferior machine.
I was hoping this was going to be about the lack of stategy games on the consoles, but never mind.
Lack of stratergy games is because of they are truely crap on consoles.
Dakarus Joe wrote:
> They do its just because the PS2 is an inferior machine.
No, there is nothing wrong with ps2 conversions specifically, all conversions are crap, I've seen a lot of PS2--->PC conversions that completely subbotaged the game, the ones that are wrthy to mention are FF8 and mgs2 substance, you see, the developers make the game for a specific console and they put a lot of hard work in it, and when it succeeds they would want to make more money, but they don't do as much work on the conversions, they just think about the money, so it ends up being full of glitches and bugs, frame rate problems, etc.. it's vey rare when a conversion turns out to be good, a good conversion from a ps2 game that I can remember is GTA Vice City, also a good conversion to the ps2 was Splinter Cell which isn't exactly the same as the Xbox version, the graphics offcourse are less, but I remember that opsm2 mentioned some add ons.
> They do its just because the PS2 is an inferior machine.
No, there is nothing wrong with ps2 conversions specifically, all conversions are crap, I've seen a lot of PS2--->PC conversions that completely subbotaged the game, the ones that are wrthy to mention are FF8 and mgs2 substance, you see, the developers make the game for a specific console and they put a lot of hard work in it, and when it succeeds they would want to make more money, but they don't do as much work on the conversions, they just think about the money, so it ends up being full of glitches and bugs, frame rate problems, etc.. it's vey rare when a conversion turns out to be good, a good conversion from a ps2 game that I can remember is GTA Vice City, also a good conversion to the ps2 was Splinter Cell which isn't exactly the same as the Xbox version, the graphics offcourse are less, but I remember that opsm2 mentioned some add ons.
Deus Ex wasn't such a bad conversion.
Apart from a choppy framrate that wasn't so hard to get used to, the scaled down and more accessable inventory system actually adapted the game to a console style, making it as playable as it was on the PC.
I think perhaps the major failing with PC to console conversions is that many people don't think to alter the game in any other way than for the new hardware, whereas sometimes the gameplay needs tweaking to correspond with the new platform.
Apart from a choppy framrate that wasn't so hard to get used to, the scaled down and more accessable inventory system actually adapted the game to a console style, making it as playable as it was on the PC.
I think perhaps the major failing with PC to console conversions is that many people don't think to alter the game in any other way than for the new hardware, whereas sometimes the gameplay needs tweaking to correspond with the new platform.
Mav another problem with Deus Ex for the PS2 was the lighting. The PC version wasn't a louminous (sp?) and that added a much better effect then what we have in the PS2 version.
Flockhart wrote:
> I was hoping this was going to be about the lack of stategy games on
> the consoles, but never mind.
lol they really don't work on consoles. they are far more easy to work and useful on a pc. get a link up cable to the tv if you want a bigger picture.
> I was hoping this was going to be about the lack of stategy games on
> the consoles, but never mind.
lol they really don't work on consoles. they are far more easy to work and useful on a pc. get a link up cable to the tv if you want a bigger picture.
philipbl wrote:
> Why do all conversions from PC games go bad on the PS2.
i think it's a one way street. unless you intend for a game to be on more than one console, it's hard to match the making of it on one console to another. each different console has different capabilities and a different way of making the data.
i'm pretty sure that it's easier to make a ps2 game to pc rather than vice versa.
ps2 to pc:
PES3
Vice City
> Why do all conversions from PC games go bad on the PS2.
i think it's a one way street. unless you intend for a game to be on more than one console, it's hard to match the making of it on one console to another. each different console has different capabilities and a different way of making the data.
i'm pretty sure that it's easier to make a ps2 game to pc rather than vice versa.
ps2 to pc:
PES3
Vice City
In addition to what ppl have said here, time anf finance constraints also play a major part. Though it varies between publishers, most just want you to complete it in the most efficient way possible - so it's basically just making sure the changes between systems work i.e. not optimising anything for that specific machine.
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