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Sun 30/05/04 at 22:16
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It has come to my attention that some gamers on Xbox Live dedicate their life and souls to their videogames, taking them incredibly seriously and not allowing one spot of fun to interfere with their strict competitions with strangers. I think these people should be really concerned about their wellbeing, after all, it’s only a game!

These gamers are sad cases. They can be PC gamers who spend most of their time using ‘mods’ to create levels based on other games, or those who tweak their games ever so slightly to make it more hardcore. Some get so obsessed that they start their own forums specifically about these games and start ‘pwning’ people when they can’t play as well.

Then there are those who worry too much about their scores. Sure, Xbox Live and the various other online services allow you to compete in games. But what’s the point in being the best at a game? After all, it just means you’ve got a high score on a database until it either gets deleted or someone beats it. Scoring well on games can be a fun process, but getting self obsessed and dedicating yourself to beat scores, build up a rank or beat your own time by a nano-second is quite ridiculous. You’re only doing it to benefit yourself and it is quite possible that no one else really cares. Wow! So you got so many points, medal?

You could argue that it gives a person something to aim for, a goal. But there’s a difference between trying hard and cry-baby obsession. For example, the person who leaves a game, such as Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow, before the results screen loads so that they don’t lose points. Why bother? If you can’t take losing, then why play? But what’s worse is the person who then doesn’t gain the points because of that other person leaving. So you play for the points now? You play merely to gain a digital number? If you want an increasing digital number, buy yourself an electronic calendar!

Then there’s the antisocial gamer. “You haven’t played this game for 200 hours and got a super high score!” That sentence is often followed by a kicking of that player who only wanted to play for a little fun. It would be different if there were other factors involved, but that reason alone is why so many people tend to start disliking their onlines games and is why opinions on PC online gaming vary so much. Think of it logically. How can that person increase their abilities if no one will give them the chance?

I admit, I have an obsession with videogames. I’ve been a semi-fanboy of Nintendo’s for around fifteen years now and I have all the major formats currently on the market. I play games a lot and I spend a lot of time here on the UKchatforums board. I am a serious gamer, I wont deny that, but I don’t let myself get obsessed with stats or beating other people (especially those I only know from the internet). Sure, I’m disappointed if I lose, but I give it another go or do something else.

I play entirely for fun. That’s why I find the majority of the stealthy games aren’t for me, and why games such as Rallisport Challenge 2, The Legend of Zelda, Super Mario, Halo and the many other games I play are. I couldn’t give a monkeys if I lose a point, I couldn’t give a monkeys if my stats lower, and if my memory cards were deleted, sure I’d be disappointed, but I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

I’m just surprised that some gamers take things way too seriously. After all, it’s not real. It is a bunch of three-dimensional computer images and two-dimensional sprites interacting with other three-dimensional and two-dimensional ‘objects’. It would be different if it really mattered. Gaming should be about the fun. Not purely about the numbers. If you take gaming too seriously, you need help.
Fri 04/06/04 at 13:48
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Sometimes I swear at others on Live - but in all actuality I'm cursing myself for losing.
Tue 01/06/04 at 18:00
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i think its sad people think that the opposition is always several nasty things.
Tue 01/06/04 at 07:18
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Some good points raised there, Edgy, and you too Flockhart. Some people are taking gaming far too seriously for anyone to enjoy the games. Take CounterStrike for example. The amount of geeks in that game is ridiculous. Carrying a score of something like 60 kills, 3 deaths. Stupid, and then they proceed to shout and scream down the mic against you when you kill them a few times in succession - then you're kicked soon after.

Splinter Cell 2 is probably the worst though. The amount of people that leave a game prematurely just because they are losing is stupid. They're going to lose far more points by doing that, so what's the point?

Racing games aren't too bad, I don't care if someone is striving to shave milliseconds on a track. You know they're not goint go play dirty against you as any collison will slow them down. IMO, racing games are probably the easiest games to play in terms of good sportsmanship. Tactical and action games like CS, RS3, SC:PT etc. are where you'r most likely to be inundated with the pale-face, spooty, virginal geeks that have forgotten what daylight looks like.

And yes, it's these people which are slowing the progression of online gaming down.
Mon 31/05/04 at 21:00
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Unforunetly some people just take gaming far too seriously. I myself used to take games very seriously, I would basically just sit indoors for hours on end playing games.

But thankfully I realised that I was just wasting my life away by doing that, so I sold most of my games so that I could break the 'habit'. I used to own over 70 games but I only have around 20 now.

But I'm glad I've stopped taking games so seriously, it's great just going out and about, finding other things to do. Plus, when a console wars argument erupts on this site, I no longer feel the need to take it seriously, because quite frankly, I don't care now.

However, don't get me wrong, games will always be a part of my life, but certainly not the the same extent as they used to.

:)
Mon 31/05/04 at 19:09
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"gsybe you!"
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Yup.

Darkfire somthing on RS3 earlier.

Goon.
Sun 30/05/04 at 22:27
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Posts: 18,487
I think there is a point where it becomes sad, but i sort of understand most of it, for those without people to play against it offers them a challenge and they can get caught up in trying to be the best.
As for the anti-social, well that's bloody kids for you, you can go to into school playground(you obviously cant) and see the same thing, it's all about being better than someone else and enjoying it and making sure they know youre better than them.
I cant see it changing any time soon, although it might be an idea to create a seperate area for the adults and casuals.
The hardcore gamer, once the saviour of the industry is now whats holding back online from going mainstream.
Sun 30/05/04 at 22:16
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Posts: 15,681
It has come to my attention that some gamers on Xbox Live dedicate their life and souls to their videogames, taking them incredibly seriously and not allowing one spot of fun to interfere with their strict competitions with strangers. I think these people should be really concerned about their wellbeing, after all, it’s only a game!

These gamers are sad cases. They can be PC gamers who spend most of their time using ‘mods’ to create levels based on other games, or those who tweak their games ever so slightly to make it more hardcore. Some get so obsessed that they start their own forums specifically about these games and start ‘pwning’ people when they can’t play as well.

Then there are those who worry too much about their scores. Sure, Xbox Live and the various other online services allow you to compete in games. But what’s the point in being the best at a game? After all, it just means you’ve got a high score on a database until it either gets deleted or someone beats it. Scoring well on games can be a fun process, but getting self obsessed and dedicating yourself to beat scores, build up a rank or beat your own time by a nano-second is quite ridiculous. You’re only doing it to benefit yourself and it is quite possible that no one else really cares. Wow! So you got so many points, medal?

You could argue that it gives a person something to aim for, a goal. But there’s a difference between trying hard and cry-baby obsession. For example, the person who leaves a game, such as Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow, before the results screen loads so that they don’t lose points. Why bother? If you can’t take losing, then why play? But what’s worse is the person who then doesn’t gain the points because of that other person leaving. So you play for the points now? You play merely to gain a digital number? If you want an increasing digital number, buy yourself an electronic calendar!

Then there’s the antisocial gamer. “You haven’t played this game for 200 hours and got a super high score!” That sentence is often followed by a kicking of that player who only wanted to play for a little fun. It would be different if there were other factors involved, but that reason alone is why so many people tend to start disliking their onlines games and is why opinions on PC online gaming vary so much. Think of it logically. How can that person increase their abilities if no one will give them the chance?

I admit, I have an obsession with videogames. I’ve been a semi-fanboy of Nintendo’s for around fifteen years now and I have all the major formats currently on the market. I play games a lot and I spend a lot of time here on the UKchatforums board. I am a serious gamer, I wont deny that, but I don’t let myself get obsessed with stats or beating other people (especially those I only know from the internet). Sure, I’m disappointed if I lose, but I give it another go or do something else.

I play entirely for fun. That’s why I find the majority of the stealthy games aren’t for me, and why games such as Rallisport Challenge 2, The Legend of Zelda, Super Mario, Halo and the many other games I play are. I couldn’t give a monkeys if I lose a point, I couldn’t give a monkeys if my stats lower, and if my memory cards were deleted, sure I’d be disappointed, but I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

I’m just surprised that some gamers take things way too seriously. After all, it’s not real. It is a bunch of three-dimensional computer images and two-dimensional sprites interacting with other three-dimensional and two-dimensional ‘objects’. It would be different if it really mattered. Gaming should be about the fun. Not purely about the numbers. If you take gaming too seriously, you need help.

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