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Everyone goes on about how good it is that England get another place in Europe. But what are the chances that any of those teams will do well? I agree with the change in rules in 2003/2004 so that only champions can play in it. It is supposed to showcase the best in European football, however it just funds ailing teams like Real Madrid that struggle to win their league, but because they finish in the top four, they can rely on the huge funds coming in from UEFA. The amount of money in European football is too much as it is, and now finishing anywhere in the top half is almost enough to get a place or a shot at a place in Europe. Why should Liverpool have the right to play in the champions league whenever they cant even finish 2nd in the country, yet in the FIFA rankings they are the best club of the season.
The champions league has become a have for failing clubs to receive inflated incomes for below par results.
The champions league has become a have for failing clubs to receive inflated incomes for below par results.
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It's all going to change in the new season.
Liverpool do not deserve to be in the cahmpions league.
I admit that winning the UEFA cup is impressive, but the reason that Liverpool shouldn't be in the champions league is because Liverpool only play well in big games. They want to prove that they are better than teams such as Arsenal and Man Utd, so they beat us.
So What?
To win the league takes consistently high quality football over 38 matches, not just the 4 against Arsenal and Man Utd. How can Liverpool have a claim to be the best team in Europe whenever they cannot provide the consistency over the course of a season. They are a good cup team, and they have proven that, but to claim to be the best team in Europe, or even a major force is very disputable.
I admit that winning the UEFA cup is impressive, but the reason that Liverpool shouldn't be in the champions league is because Liverpool only play well in big games. They want to prove that they are better than teams such as Arsenal and Man Utd, so they beat us.
So What?
To win the league takes consistently high quality football over 38 matches, not just the 4 against Arsenal and Man Utd. How can Liverpool have a claim to be the best team in Europe whenever they cannot provide the consistency over the course of a season. They are a good cup team, and they have proven that, but to claim to be the best team in Europe, or even a major force is very disputable.
Please do not start laughing. Please
By the way i am not a Liverpool fan, so i am not biased if anybody thinks that.
I am an Everton Fan.
I am an Everton Fan.
Why should both the teams entering the competition from Scotland have to qualify??
I don't understand that on, maybe someone can cast some light on the subject, but hopefully Rangers and Celtic can represent Scotland well, next season.
I don't understand that on, maybe someone can cast some light on the subject, but hopefully Rangers and Celtic can represent Scotland well, next season.
CJJ007 wrote:
> fitz wrote:
Why should Liverpool have the right to play in the
> champions league whenever they cant even finish 2nd in the country,
> yet in the FIFA rankings they are the best club of the season.
>
Liverpool have won the UEFA Cup beating Barcelona, Roma, Porto
> etc. Who were all ranked above them, so the FIFA points system gave
> them a lot of points. Bayren Munich have beaten teams that are just
> above them or below them and so have not gained that many
> points.
Also Liverpool have beaten Man Utd, Arsenal (I think?),
> Chelsea in the Premiership and gained points there.
That is why
> they are top of the FIFA Rankings and not Real Madrid or Munich!
I totally agree.
Why should Liverpool be in the Champions League?? Because they DESERVE to be.
Beating teams such as Barcelone, Roma, Man U and Arsenal-surely that deserves a Champions League place, as well as being treble cup winners!!
> fitz wrote:
Why should Liverpool have the right to play in the
> champions league whenever they cant even finish 2nd in the country,
> yet in the FIFA rankings they are the best club of the season.
>
Liverpool have won the UEFA Cup beating Barcelona, Roma, Porto
> etc. Who were all ranked above them, so the FIFA points system gave
> them a lot of points. Bayren Munich have beaten teams that are just
> above them or below them and so have not gained that many
> points.
Also Liverpool have beaten Man Utd, Arsenal (I think?),
> Chelsea in the Premiership and gained points there.
That is why
> they are top of the FIFA Rankings and not Real Madrid or Munich!
I totally agree.
Why should Liverpool be in the Champions League?? Because they DESERVE to be.
Beating teams such as Barcelone, Roma, Man U and Arsenal-surely that deserves a Champions League place, as well as being treble cup winners!!
fitz wrote:
Why should Liverpool have the right to play in the champions league whenever they cant even finish 2nd in the country, yet in the FIFA rankings they are the best club of the season.
Liverpool have won the UEFA Cup beating Barcelona, Roma, Porto etc. Who were all ranked above them, so the FIFA points system gave them a lot of points. Bayren Munich have beaten teams that are just above them or below them and so have not gained that many points.
Also Liverpool have beaten Man Utd, Arsenal (I think?), Chelsea in the Premiership and gained points there.
That is why they are top of the FIFA Rankings and not Real Madrid or Munich!
Why should Liverpool have the right to play in the champions league whenever they cant even finish 2nd in the country, yet in the FIFA rankings they are the best club of the season.
Liverpool have won the UEFA Cup beating Barcelona, Roma, Porto etc. Who were all ranked above them, so the FIFA points system gave them a lot of points. Bayren Munich have beaten teams that are just above them or below them and so have not gained that many points.
Also Liverpool have beaten Man Utd, Arsenal (I think?), Chelsea in the Premiership and gained points there.
That is why they are top of the FIFA Rankings and not Real Madrid or Munich!
fitz wrote:
however it just funds ailing teams like Real
> Madrid that struggle to win their league, but because they finish in
> the top four, they can rely on the huge funds coming in from UEFA.
Real madrid struggle to win their league? they ran away with the league this season.
however it just funds ailing teams like Real
> Madrid that struggle to win their league, but because they finish in
> the top four, they can rely on the huge funds coming in from UEFA.
Real madrid struggle to win their league? they ran away with the league this season.
Don't forget that there is still qualifying stages, so Liverpool are not, essentially, in the Champions League yet, but they can certainly do it.
And, as far as I know, the main reason that we have been given an extra Champions League was we did well in the last one, I mean, all three of our teams got past the second stage, into the quarter finals, with one of them getting into the semis.
Our teams are good enough for the Champions League, otherwise they wouldn't get there in the first place. Our league is one of the toughest in the world, so getting in the top 5 is a challenge.
And Fitz, you said,"The champions league has become a have for failing clubs to receive inflated incomes for below par results". Coming second or third in the Premier League is not a failure, really is it. If anything, being relegated is a failure.
With this extra place, there is more chance of one of our teams winning, and this can boost England's chances for hosting the World Cup, which I am sure that everyone wants to happen.
And, as far as I know, the main reason that we have been given an extra Champions League was we did well in the last one, I mean, all three of our teams got past the second stage, into the quarter finals, with one of them getting into the semis.
Our teams are good enough for the Champions League, otherwise they wouldn't get there in the first place. Our league is one of the toughest in the world, so getting in the top 5 is a challenge.
And Fitz, you said,"The champions league has become a have for failing clubs to receive inflated incomes for below par results". Coming second or third in the Premier League is not a failure, really is it. If anything, being relegated is a failure.
With this extra place, there is more chance of one of our teams winning, and this can boost England's chances for hosting the World Cup, which I am sure that everyone wants to happen.
The reason that UEFA changed the Champions League, the UEFA cup and the scrapping of the Cup Winners Cup was because the big clubs that didn't make the Champions League threatened to break away and form a Euro Superleague.
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