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There was a post a little while back... Which argued that the computer industry was comparable to music industry...
In that while most games, Tomb Raiders, etc... Which while very popular with the general public, with sequel after sequel being selling by the bucket load, and more time spent of marketing and hype than on the actual game, whilst at the same time being were derided by hard core gamers was comparable to the attitudes of the general public and hard core music aficionados...
Equally, with games that had a much smaller, but much more fanatical, cult, following... etc...
Essentially that every group and sub-group in music could be found and mapped into gaming...
This argument has been around for some time... though normally associated with the movie industry...
An argument, which itself can be more forcefully put by the common application of many different cinematic effects being applied to what seems like almost all games.... Directing styles, story lines, FMV styles... even to the point where it is now almost commonplace to hire veteran movie scriptwriters and other cinematic professionals in the development of a title...
Even further, though less popular is the comparison of software titles to literary genres, with storylines often being closer to those of books and comic strips...
It confuses me though... Why after over 20 years... of which though most of which, video games have been very much in the public eye, does this area of entertainment have such a hard time gaining its own identity...
You rarely, if ever read an article attempting to identify the similarities of movies with books, books with music, music to theatre, etc...
Why does the gaming industry still, at a point in time when its popularity and financial strength making its popularity second only to that of the music industry does it lack the self-confidence to present itself as an individual entertainment medium?
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I'm not looking for a time when the music industry is compared to that of video games, rather a time when comparisons seem, as they should be, to be seen as a rather pointless, as an exercise in futility
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Just wondering? :)
In that while most games, Tomb Raiders, etc... Which while very popular with the general public, with sequel after sequel being selling by the bucket load, and more time spent of marketing and hype than on the actual game, whilst at the same time being were derided by hard core gamers was comparable to the attitudes of the general public and hard core music aficionados...
Equally, with games that had a much smaller, but much more fanatical, cult, following... etc...
Essentially that every group and sub-group in music could be found and mapped into gaming...
This argument has been around for some time... though normally associated with the movie industry...
An argument, which itself can be more forcefully put by the common application of many different cinematic effects being applied to what seems like almost all games.... Directing styles, story lines, FMV styles... even to the point where it is now almost commonplace to hire veteran movie scriptwriters and other cinematic professionals in the development of a title...
Even further, though less popular is the comparison of software titles to literary genres, with storylines often being closer to those of books and comic strips...
It confuses me though... Why after over 20 years... of which though most of which, video games have been very much in the public eye, does this area of entertainment have such a hard time gaining its own identity...
You rarely, if ever read an article attempting to identify the similarities of movies with books, books with music, music to theatre, etc...
Why does the gaming industry still, at a point in time when its popularity and financial strength making its popularity second only to that of the music industry does it lack the self-confidence to present itself as an individual entertainment medium?
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I'm not looking for a time when the music industry is compared to that of video games, rather a time when comparisons seem, as they should be, to be seen as a rather pointless, as an exercise in futility
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Just wondering? :)
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This title kinda sounds rude... but after reading the topic and regarding the original question - I don't know.
Ashley wrote:
Sorry only
> joking. You have to admit it sounds funny to say the least. What is
> westworld?
lol... s'okay :) ... I was but jesting :)
I guess it does sound a touch odd... I was typing as I was running from the keyboard, so I didnt really know what I had written until I come back on here again today :)
Westworld? ... Its a cheesy 70's movie starring Yule Brenner... About a theme park make up of robots, which proceed to all go mad and try and kill everybody... Think Jurassic Park with robots instead of Dinosaurs and you've got the ideas :)
Sorry only
> joking. You have to admit it sounds funny to say the least. What is
> westworld?
lol... s'okay :) ... I was but jesting :)
I guess it does sound a touch odd... I was typing as I was running from the keyboard, so I didnt really know what I had written until I come back on here again today :)
Westworld? ... Its a cheesy 70's movie starring Yule Brenner... About a theme park make up of robots, which proceed to all go mad and try and kill everybody... Think Jurassic Park with robots instead of Dinosaurs and you've got the ideas :)
Armitage Shanks wrote:
> Ashley wrote:
> um individual entertainment...... is that what
> you call it
lol... Hey :) ... You try comming up with a title at
> 11PM, as your desperatly trying to push off and watch Westworld! :)
Sorry only joking. You have to admit it sounds funny to say the least. What is westworld?
> Ashley wrote:
> um individual entertainment...... is that what
> you call it
lol... Hey :) ... You try comming up with a title at
> 11PM, as your desperatly trying to push off and watch Westworld! :)
Sorry only joking. You have to admit it sounds funny to say the least. What is westworld?
Your Honour wrote:
I was going to point this out
> earlier. A game costs, say £30, a DVD costs, say £15.
> Therefore, twice the number of DVD's could be bought than games, yet
> the money brought in over the year would be the same.
Equally paperback Books usually cost around 6.99 ...
Still, the literary business is still not compaired to the film industry...
I was going to point this out
> earlier. A game costs, say £30, a DVD costs, say £15.
> Therefore, twice the number of DVD's could be bought than games, yet
> the money brought in over the year would be the same.
Equally paperback Books usually cost around 6.99 ...
Still, the literary business is still not compaired to the film industry...
Your Honour wrote:
> Armitage Shanks wrote:
But when comparisons are made... they
> concenr the movie
> industry as a cenimatic event... not as a
> home entertainment (which,
> despite being THE same product, is
> usually assoiated with TV)
Do they? I just assumed the 'film
> industry' was everything. Cinema, VHS, DVD, the whole she-bang, as
> they say.
Still, it has been known for me to be
> wrong.....
No... while the film industry does cover all the stated point, cenima, DVD, etc...
When comparisons are made, they generally only refer to the movie prodiction and cenimatic releases... not the whole genre... (I dont know if that makes it any clearer?... probably not? :) )
:)
> Armitage Shanks wrote:
But when comparisons are made... they
> concenr the movie
> industry as a cenimatic event... not as a
> home entertainment (which,
> despite being THE same product, is
> usually assoiated with TV)
Do they? I just assumed the 'film
> industry' was everything. Cinema, VHS, DVD, the whole she-bang, as
> they say.
Still, it has been known for me to be
> wrong.....
No... while the film industry does cover all the stated point, cenima, DVD, etc...
When comparisons are made, they generally only refer to the movie prodiction and cenimatic releases... not the whole genre... (I dont know if that makes it any clearer?... probably not? :) )
:)
Ashley wrote:
> um individual entertainment...... is that what you call it
lol... Hey :) ... You try comming up with a title at 11PM, as your desperatly trying to push off and watch Westworld! :)
> um individual entertainment...... is that what you call it
lol... Hey :) ... You try comming up with a title at 11PM, as your desperatly trying to push off and watch Westworld! :)
Armitage Shanks wrote:
But when comparisons are made... they concenr the movie
> industry as a cenimatic event... not as a home entertainment (which,
> despite being THE same product, is usually assoiated with TV)
Do they? I just assumed the 'film industry' was everything. Cinema, VHS, DVD, the whole she-bang, as they say.
Still, it has been known for me to be wrong.....
:-)
But when comparisons are made... they concenr the movie
> industry as a cenimatic event... not as a home entertainment (which,
> despite being THE same product, is usually assoiated with TV)
Do they? I just assumed the 'film industry' was everything. Cinema, VHS, DVD, the whole she-bang, as they say.
Still, it has been known for me to be wrong.....
:-)
um individual entertainment...... is that what you call it
Your Honour wrote:
I was going to point this out
> earlier. A game costs, say £30, a DVD costs, say £15.
> Therefore, twice the number of DVD's could be bought than games, yet
> the money brought in over the year would be the same.
But when comparisons are made... they concenr the movie industry as a cenimatic event... not as a home entertainment (which, despite being THE same product, is usually assoiated with TV)
I was going to point this out
> earlier. A game costs, say £30, a DVD costs, say £15.
> Therefore, twice the number of DVD's could be bought than games, yet
> the money brought in over the year would be the same.
But when comparisons are made... they concenr the movie industry as a cenimatic event... not as a home entertainment (which, despite being THE same product, is usually assoiated with TV)
Armitage Shanks wrote:
I know of no
> game costing 100 million dollars to produce.....
Shenmue had a budget of 70 million, but i don't think thats what he means.
I was going to point this out earlier. A game costs, say £30, a DVD costs, say £15. Therefore, twice the number of DVD's could be bought than games, yet the money brought in over the year would be the same.
I know of no
> game costing 100 million dollars to produce.....
Shenmue had a budget of 70 million, but i don't think thats what he means.
I was going to point this out earlier. A game costs, say £30, a DVD costs, say £15. Therefore, twice the number of DVD's could be bought than games, yet the money brought in over the year would be the same.
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